NC medical student brags on Twitter about deliberately harming patient who mocked her pronoun pin

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Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

That’s what she claims now, faced with expulsion.

The tweet is the tweet. She did not say it was intentional.

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Bigots want to read into it.

She didn’t say it was intentional. She didn’t say it was unintentional. Nobody say for sure either way, but the trans activists insist it was unintentional and the conservatives/Fox crowd says it was intentional. Both are crazy, both have no way of knowing.

1) It’s very easy to miss. Even experienced techs can miss.

2) Third party gave character report.

As a future health care professional, she shouldn’t have been advertising and crowing about her two failed attempts, in a gleeful way, whether or not intentional. She should have remained quiet and vowed to do better again, to prevent future patients from the discomfort of multiple attempts. The lack of remorse and apparent lack of motivation to improve, are reasons to reconsider her suitability for a profession that involves caring for patients.

She only failed once.

It was dumb to post but “lack of motivation to improve” is total fiction.

I actually agree with the PP. She’s a liability for a hospital. She’s made it clear she believes patients with opposing views to hers do not deserve the same standard of care. She’s a lawsuit waiting to happen. Why would any hospital hire her?

She didn’t alter the level of care.

That’s not what the PP said. It’s that she doesn’t believe people with opposing views deserve the same level of care. Whether intentional or not, she was happy and gloating to the public that this patient had to have two attempts to draw blood. She should be expelled.

Fiction.

Finding satisfaction in “karma” doesn’t mean anything about who she thinks is “deserving a level of care”.

Haters gonna hate.

She implied the bolded pretty strongly. You don’t have to read too hard into her tweet to see she thought he deserved to have her “fail” the first time. Unless you also believe he deserved it, in which case you too should not be involved in health care.

+100 It's odd how some posters are almost defending her and calling people haters or bigots for finding her behavior disgusting.

Likely some of her friends and family and possibly her herself. She's from Virginia, yes? A UVA alum, too.

[Anonymous]

Don't know if she was rich from birth to 18 but the culture of UVA is rich coastal elitism, then she ends up at private elite college Wake Forest for medical school. So she's been in an elitist coastal bubble for at least 8 years. Safe bet she despises flyover state trash and rubes in general. The really terrifying thing is to consider all of her actions, decisions, and thoughts she wasn't dumb enough to tweet.

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It’s a very big misstep so early in their career. It will only get worse. At the least hold degree for years. Expulsion is the best option. Her “status” is not an excuse.

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Anonymous wrote:Thought republicans didn't believe in canceling people???

They are hypocrites.

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Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

That’s what she claims now, faced with expulsion.

The tweet is the tweet. She did not say it was intentional.

+1

Bigots want to read into it.

She didn’t say it was intentional. She didn’t say it was unintentional. Nobody say for sure either way, but the trans activists insist it was unintentional and the conservatives/Fox crowd says it was intentional. Both are crazy, both have no way of knowing.

1) It’s very easy to miss. Even experienced techs can miss.

2) Third party gave character report.

As a future health care professional, she shouldn’t have been advertising and crowing about her two failed attempts, in a gleeful way, whether or not intentional. She should have remained quiet and vowed to do better again, to prevent future patients from the discomfort of multiple attempts. The lack of remorse and apparent lack of motivation to improve, are reasons to reconsider her suitability for a profession that involves caring for patients.

She only failed once.

It was dumb to post but “lack of motivation to improve” is total fiction.

I actually agree with the PP. She’s a liability for a hospital. She’s made it clear she believes patients with opposing views to hers do not deserve the same standard of care. She’s a lawsuit waiting to happen. Why would any hospital hire her?

She didn’t alter the level of care.

That’s not what the PP said. It’s that she doesn’t believe people with opposing views deserve the same level of care. Whether intentional or not, she was happy and gloating to the public that this patient had to have two attempts to draw blood. She should be expelled.

Fiction.

Finding satisfaction in “karma” doesn’t mean anything about who she thinks is “deserving a level of care”.

Haters gonna hate.

She implied the bolded pretty strongly. You don’t have to read too hard into her tweet to see she thought he deserved to have her “fail” the first time. Unless you also believe he deserved it, in which case you too should not be involved in health care.

+100 It's odd how some posters are almost defending her and calling people haters or bigots for finding her behavior disgusting.

Likely some of her friends and family and possibly her herself. She's from Virginia, yes? A UVA alum, too.

My thought as well. I'm a UVA alum myself and I can tell you that the story has made the rounds. I would not be surprised if she or her family/friends are on here responding to some posts. They would be better served by helping their friend/relative understand why she was wrong; then how she can apologize, and make peace with the community she offended and the person she deliberately hurt.

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Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

That’s what she claims now, faced with expulsion.

The tweet is the tweet. She did not say it was intentional.

+1

Bigots want to read into it.

She didn’t say it was intentional. She didn’t say it was unintentional. Nobody say for sure either way, but the trans activists insist it was unintentional and the conservatives/Fox crowd says it was intentional. Both are crazy, both have no way of knowing.

1) It’s very easy to miss. Even experienced techs can miss.

2) Third party gave character report.

As a future health care professional, she shouldn’t have been advertising and crowing about her two failed attempts, in a gleeful way, whether or not intentional. She should have remained quiet and vowed to do better again, to prevent future patients from the discomfort of multiple attempts. The lack of remorse and apparent lack of motivation to improve, are reasons to reconsider her suitability for a profession that involves caring for patients.

She only failed once.

It was dumb to post but “lack of motivation to improve” is total fiction.

I actually agree with the PP. She’s a liability for a hospital. She’s made it clear she believes patients with opposing views to hers do not deserve the same standard of care. She’s a lawsuit waiting to happen. Why would any hospital hire her?

She didn’t alter the level of care.

That’s not what the PP said. It’s that she doesn’t believe people with opposing views deserve the same level of care. Whether intentional or not, she was happy and gloating to the public that this patient had to have two attempts to draw blood. She should be expelled.

Fiction.

Finding satisfaction in “karma” doesn’t mean anything about who she thinks is “deserving a level of care”.

Haters gonna hate.

She implied the bolded pretty strongly. You don’t have to read too hard into her tweet to see she thought he deserved to have her “fail” the first time. Unless you also believe he deserved it, in which case you too should not be involved in health care.

+100 It's odd how some posters are almost defending her and calling people haters or bigots for finding her behavior disgusting.

Likely some of her friends and family and possibly her herself. She's from Virginia, yes? A UVA alum, too.

My thought as well. I'm a UVA alum myself and I can tell you that the story has made the rounds. I would not be surprised if she or her family/friends are on here responding to some posts. They would be better served by helping their friend/relative understand why she was wrong; then how she can apologize, and make peace with the community she offended and the person she deliberately hurt.

WTH?

[Anonymous]

I think her attitude was less "I did it on purpose" and more "I'm a med. student who missed the vein on the first stick. Ah, well!" Which, still not appropriate and deserves to be reprimanded but GOP news sources are acting like she amputated the guy's leg or something on purpose. She was cavalier about a common occurrence that causes no longterm harm. It was insensitive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't know if she was rich from birth to 18 but the culture of UVA is rich coastal elitism, then she ends up at private elite college Wake Forest for medical school. So she's been in an elitist coastal bubble for at least 8 years. Safe bet she despises flyover state trash and rubes in general. The really terrifying thing is to consider all of her actions, decisions, and thoughts she wasn't dumb enough to tweet.

I'm from North Carolina. Kind of rude you think North Carolinians are "flyover state trash and rubes."

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Oh god, Jeff if you're reading this, please tell me that half of these responses are from the same weirdo.

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Anonymous wrote:I think her attitude was less "I did it on purpose" and more "I'm a med. student who missed the vein on the first stick. Ah, well!" Which, still not appropriate and deserves to be reprimanded but GOP news sources are acting like she amputated the guy's leg or something on purpose. She was cavalier about a common occurrence that causes no longterm harm. It was insensitive.

RWNJ call to arms.

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Anonymous wrote:I think her attitude was less "I did it on purpose" and more "I'm a med. student who missed the vein on the first stick. Ah, well!" Which, still not appropriate and deserves to be reprimanded but GOP news sources are acting like she amputated the guy's leg or something on purpose. She was cavalier about a common occurrence that causes no longterm harm. It was insensitive.

RWNJ call to arms.

Lol I had to google RWNJ.

Yeah I work in healthcare administration, my boss is an MD and I just can't imagine her having this attitude about taking a couple tries to stick someone. It happens all the time, esp. in older patients who are already in the hospital (dehydrated, not great blood flow, etc.) but it's not comfortable and most doctors/nurses would be SUPER apologetic about it. The med. student's attitude was blase about it, which isn't good, though I'm sure most nurses (doctors usually don't do IVs) who had an annoying patient would go home and make a remark like that to their family - "Annoying patient. Took me a couple times to stick him. Ah, well!" It doesn't belong in a public forum. She deserves to be reprimanded for that. She does not deserve to lose everything she has worked for, and no, her being canceled is not "Amazing" as someone up thread posted.

Even if her attitude was shitty - which it was - I don't believe she did it on purpose and it wasn't a risk to the guy's longterm health and wellbeing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know if she was rich from birth to 18 but the culture of UVA is rich coastal elitism, then she ends up at private elite college Wake Forest for medical school. So she's been in an elitist coastal bubble for at least 8 years. Safe bet she despises flyover state trash and rubes in general. The really terrifying thing is to consider all of her actions, decisions, and thoughts she wasn't dumb enough to tweet.

I'm from North Carolina. Kind of rude you think North Carolinians are "flyover state trash and rubes."

I'm a new poster and agree that is really rude. But at the risk of being rude myself, I'm pretty amused at UVA being describedd "rich" and "coastal" and that Wake Forest has been described as "elite." "Flyover Land" is what you fly over between NYC and LA. Neither southern VA or North Carolina even gets flown over.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know if she was rich from birth to 18 but the culture of UVA is rich coastal elitism, then she ends up at private elite college Wake Forest for medical school. So she's been in an elitist coastal bubble for at least 8 years. Safe bet she despises flyover state trash and rubes in general. The really terrifying thing is to consider all of her actions, decisions, and thoughts she wasn't dumb enough to tweet.

I'm from North Carolina. Kind of rude you think North Carolinians are "flyover state trash and rubes."

I'm a new poster and agree that is really rude. But at the risk of being rude myself, I'm pretty amused at UVA being describedd "rich" and "coastal" and that Wake Forest has been described as "elite." "Flyover Land" is what you fly over between NYC and LA. Neither southern VA or North Carolina even gets flown over.

Oh, I saw that. I thought they meant the schools were elite, which they kind of are.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know if she was rich from birth to 18 but the culture of UVA is rich coastal elitism, then she ends up at private elite college Wake Forest for medical school. So she's been in an elitist coastal bubble for at least 8 years. Safe bet she despises flyover state trash and rubes in general. The really terrifying thing is to consider all of her actions, decisions, and thoughts she wasn't dumb enough to tweet.

I'm from North Carolina. Kind of rude you think North Carolinians are "flyover state trash and rubes."

I'm a new poster and agree that is really rude. But at the risk of being rude myself, I'm pretty amused at UVA being describedd "rich" and "coastal" and that Wake Forest has been described as "elite." "Flyover Land" is what you fly over between NYC and LA. Neither southern VA or North Carolina even gets flown over.

Wake Forest and UVA are elite college bubbles full of born privileged UMC and rich kids. Many if not the overwhelming majority of the students at both despise the unwashed locals from the fairly downtrodden region. Once you get out of the college bubble, the region around both schools gets pretty backwater in a hurry. But I guess we can play pretend the guy she apparently purposely poked was some affluent clean cut businessman in a $1,500 Hugo Boss suit and not like some uneducated trashy maga local without a pot to piss in.

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Anonymous wrote:I think her attitude was less "I did it on purpose" and more "I'm a med. student who missed the vein on the first stick. Ah, well!" Which, still not appropriate and deserves to be reprimanded but GOP news sources are acting like she amputated the guy's leg or something on purpose. She was cavalier about a common occurrence that causes no longterm harm. It was insensitive.

It’s true it’s commonplace to miss the vein and it doesn’t cause long term harm. But her attitude was beyond cavalier. She acted like it was funny and implied it was fitting, and served the fellow, who wasn’t woke, right. You would expect that she might feel bad, but she doesn’t appear to feel remorse. That is what is problematic for a future health care professional.