NC medical student brags on Twitter about deliberately harming patient who mocked her pronoun pin

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you defending her, let’s reverse the scenario. Let’s say that the patient wore a pronoun badge and the med student said something negative about it. Then the student missed a poke and tweeted about it. Wouldn’t you be calling for the student’s expulsion? Because I am pretty sure you would be, in fact very loudly so, which is why I flat out don’t believe you are engaging in a good faith defense.

I would not be calling for her expulsion. I would be hoping that the medical school didn't cave to the woke mob and "cancel" a dumb 20something over an opportunity to correct not only that student, but her peers. Just as I am currently hoping that the medical school doesn't cave to the GQP mob and cancel her.

I have a difficult time believing that you would be on the side of the patient in your reversed hypothetical. More likely you would be ranting in the Daily Wire comment section about how the patient was a snowflake.

I think the pronoun pin is dumb. Don't support pronoun pins, email signatures, etc. I don't think this medical student deserves to have her life ruined over a tweet.


Well, I don’t think a pronoun pin is dumb (I can see the purpose) but I also don’t believe you that if the scenario was reversed you (and her other supporters on this thread) wouldn’t be calling for her immediate expulsion. Do you honestly think the PP who keeps calling people names and told someone else to die in a ditch would be measured and calm in that situation? They’d be acting worse than the Republicans calling for expulsion now are — at least the Republicans are not issuing the poor girl death threats, they just want her expelled. If the scenario was the opposite, she would be receiving death threats from a subset of transactivists as they have a long and widely known history of sending death and rape threats to women they disagree with.

She does not deserve to be expelled. Full-stop.


But you know perfectly well that if the scenario was reversed, the same people defending this doctor would be calling for immediate expulsion and worse.


Over a dumb tweet?

Or over a dumb tweet plus being anti-trans?

Not quite the same situation in reverse.


Here we get to the heart of the matter: you believe maltreatment of certain protected classes is totally fine, so you won’t admit the scenario in reverse is exactly the same just with a different protected class as the issue at hand.

We all know that if the scenario was reversed, the student in question would be receiving copious death and rape threats from the transactivist crowd, as well as calls for expulsion. Your post above just about admits that.

What is the patient's protected class here?


We don’t know (properly) but it is very likely that there is at least one (religion, disability, age, etc.) if not more. Someone in the hospital is much more likely to belong to a protected class, and so it’s highly likely the patient is a protected class member.

First of all, I love that you and your ilk are complaining about those excusing this student's behavior "making up facts." What you just said would absolutely constitute "making up facts." You do not know that the patient is a member of a protected class.

Second of all, even if he is a member of a protected class, it does not have anything to do with the incident at hand. For example, if someone commits a crime against a Jewish man or a lesbian or a Black person of either gender, that doesn't suddenly become a hate crime just because the victim was Jewish, gay, or Black. For example, if I accidentally hit the back of the car in front of me when coming to a stop at a red light, and the car is owned/driven by a Mexican immigrant, his protected class doesn't come into play.

Third of all, if you want to be taken seriously in debates, please stick to facts.
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Anonymous wrote:Those of you defending her, let’s reverse the scenario. Let’s say that the patient wore a pronoun badge and the med student said something negative about it. Then the student missed a poke and tweeted about it. Wouldn’t you be calling for the student’s expulsion? Because I am pretty sure you would be, in fact very loudly so, which is why I flat out don’t believe you are engaging in a good faith defense.

I would not be calling for her expulsion. I would be hoping that the medical school didn't cave to the woke mob and "cancel" a dumb 20something over an opportunity to correct not only that student, but her peers. Just as I am currently hoping that the medical school doesn't cave to the GQP mob and cancel her.

I have a difficult time believing that you would be on the side of the patient in your reversed hypothetical. More likely you would be ranting in the Daily Wire comment section about how the patient was a snowflake.

I think the pronoun pin is dumb. Don't support pronoun pins, email signatures, etc. I don't think this medical student deserves to have her life ruined over a tweet.


Well, I don’t think a pronoun pin is dumb (I can see the purpose) but I also don’t believe you that if the scenario was reversed you (and her other supporters on this thread) wouldn’t be calling for her immediate expulsion. Do you honestly think the PP who keeps calling people names and told someone else to die in a ditch would be measured and calm in that situation? They’d be acting worse than the Republicans calling for expulsion now are — at least the Republicans are not issuing the poor girl death threats, they just want her expelled. If the scenario was the opposite, she would be receiving death threats from a subset of transactivists as they have a long and widely known history of sending death and rape threats to women they disagree with.

She does not deserve to be expelled. Full-stop.


But you know perfectly well that if the scenario was reversed, the same people defending this doctor would be calling for immediate expulsion and worse.


Over a dumb tweet?

Or over a dumb tweet plus being anti-trans?

Not quite the same situation in reverse.


Here we get to the heart of the matter: you believe maltreatment of certain protected classes is totally fine, so you won’t admit the scenario in reverse is exactly the same just with a different protected class as the issue at hand.

We all know that if the scenario was reversed, the student in question would be receiving copious death and rape threats from the transactivist crowd, as well as calls for expulsion. Your post above just about admits that.

What is the patient's protected class here?


We don’t know (properly) but it is very likely that there is at least one (religion, disability, age, etc.) if not more. Someone in the hospital is much more likely to belong to a protected class, and so it’s highly likely the patient is a protected class member.

LMFAO


Ah, so you admit that it is 100% correct that in a reverse scenario you would calling for expulsion, and probably death and rape. Sounds about correct.

No, I'm laughing at you believing it is "highly likely" the patient was in a protected class because he was in a hospital. Way to make up facts as they suit your needs.
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Anonymous wrote:Those of you defending her, let’s reverse the scenario. Let’s say that the patient wore a pronoun badge and the med student said something negative about it. Then the student missed a poke and tweeted about it. Wouldn’t you be calling for the student’s expulsion? Because I am pretty sure you would be, in fact very loudly so, which is why I flat out don’t believe you are engaging in a good faith defense.

I would not be calling for her expulsion. I would be hoping that the medical school didn't cave to the woke mob and "cancel" a dumb 20something over an opportunity to correct not only that student, but her peers. Just as I am currently hoping that the medical school doesn't cave to the GQP mob and cancel her.

I have a difficult time believing that you would be on the side of the patient in your reversed hypothetical. More likely you would be ranting in the Daily Wire comment section about how the patient was a snowflake.

I think the pronoun pin is dumb. Don't support pronoun pins, email signatures, etc. I don't think this medical student deserves to have her life ruined over a tweet.


Well, I don’t think a pronoun pin is dumb (I can see the purpose) but I also don’t believe you that if the scenario was reversed you (and her other supporters on this thread) wouldn’t be calling for her immediate expulsion. Do you honestly think the PP who keeps calling people names and told someone else to die in a ditch would be measured and calm in that situation? They’d be acting worse than the Republicans calling for expulsion now are — at least the Republicans are not issuing the poor girl death threats, they just want her expelled. If the scenario was the opposite, she would be receiving death threats from a subset of transactivists as they have a long and widely known history of sending death and rape threats to women they disagree with.

She does not deserve to be expelled. Full-stop.


But you know perfectly well that if the scenario was reversed, the same people defending this doctor would be calling for immediate expulsion and worse.


Over a dumb tweet?

Or over a dumb tweet plus being anti-trans?

Not quite the same situation in reverse.


Here we get to the heart of the matter: you believe maltreatment of certain protected classes is totally fine, so you won’t admit the scenario in reverse is exactly the same just with a different protected class as the issue at hand.

We all know that if the scenario was reversed, the student in question would be receiving copious death and rape threats from the transactivist crowd, as well as calls for expulsion. Your post above just about admits that.

What is the patient's protected class here?


We don’t know (properly) but it is very likely that there is at least one (religion, disability, age, etc.) if not more. Someone in the hospital is much more likely to belong to a protected class, and so it’s highly likely the patient is a protected class member.

LMFAO


Ah, so you admit that it is 100% correct that in a reverse scenario you would calling for expulsion, and probably death and rape. Sounds about correct.

I don't know that many DCUM posters would be calling for death and rape. That may be common in Republican circles but not here.
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Anonymous wrote:Those of you defending her, let’s reverse the scenario. Let’s say that the patient wore a pronoun badge and the med student said something negative about it. Then the student missed a poke and tweeted about it. Wouldn’t you be calling for the student’s expulsion? Because I am pretty sure you would be, in fact very loudly so, which is why I flat out don’t believe you are engaging in a good faith defense.

I would not be calling for her expulsion. I would be hoping that the medical school didn't cave to the woke mob and "cancel" a dumb 20something over an opportunity to correct not only that student, but her peers. Just as I am currently hoping that the medical school doesn't cave to the GQP mob and cancel her.

I have a difficult time believing that you would be on the side of the patient in your reversed hypothetical. More likely you would be ranting in the Daily Wire comment section about how the patient was a snowflake.

I think the pronoun pin is dumb. Don't support pronoun pins, email signatures, etc. I don't think this medical student deserves to have her life ruined over a tweet.


Well, I don’t think a pronoun pin is dumb (I can see the purpose) but I also don’t believe you that if the scenario was reversed you (and her other supporters on this thread) wouldn’t be calling for her immediate expulsion. Do you honestly think the PP who keeps calling people names and told someone else to die in a ditch would be measured and calm in that situation? They’d be acting worse than the Republicans calling for expulsion now are — at least the Republicans are not issuing the poor girl death threats, they just want her expelled. If the scenario was the opposite, she would be receiving death threats from a subset of transactivists as they have a long and widely known history of sending death and rape threats to women they disagree with.

She does not deserve to be expelled. Full-stop.


But you know perfectly well that if the scenario was reversed, the same people defending this doctor would be calling for immediate expulsion and worse.


Over a dumb tweet?

Or over a dumb tweet plus being anti-trans?

Not quite the same situation in reverse.


Here we get to the heart of the matter: you believe maltreatment of certain protected classes is totally fine, so you won’t admit the scenario in reverse is exactly the same just with a different protected class as the issue at hand.

We all know that if the scenario was reversed, the student in question would be receiving copious death and rape threats from the transactivist crowd, as well as calls for expulsion. Your post above just about admits that.


No. No maltreatment took place in either scenario. The only issue would be the following tweets.
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Anonymous wrote:Those of you defending her, let’s reverse the scenario. Let’s say that the patient wore a pronoun badge and the med student said something negative about it. Then the student missed a poke and tweeted about it. Wouldn’t you be calling for the student’s expulsion? Because I am pretty sure you would be, in fact very loudly so, which is why I flat out don’t believe you are engaging in a good faith defense.

Not sure that anyone is truly defending this girl or her actions, just saying that it's not the big deal the republicans in this thread are presenting it as


There are definitely people defending her.


Who is defending her?

Obviously the tweet was a mistake. But the response from conservatives is over-the-top. “Victim”?



The posters who keep calling other people names and telling them to die in a ditch, etc, while simultaneously insisting—absent any supporting facts—that the stick was unintentional are absolutely defending her.

We cannot know with the facts provided whether the stick was unintentional or not. But her defenders can’t even be honest about that reality.

Uh, I've said in this thread multiple times that we can't prove whether or not the stick was intentional. Saying that she doesn't deserve to lose her career over this is not defending her.


Fine but there are multiple posters (or maybe one prolific poster) who are repeatedly insisting it was unintentional. You are being deliberately obtuse by ignoring them. They are absolutely defending her, and yet if the scenario was reversed, they’d absolutely be calling loudly for expulsion. Come on. You know this is true.


That’s not “defending” - just calling out facts.


Making up false facts to defend her is in fact defending her.


She explained the situation and a friend chimed in.

Unless you’re calling them both liars.


A friend lying to protect a friend? Has that ever happened before?
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Anonymous wrote:Those of you defending her, let’s reverse the scenario. Let’s say that the patient wore a pronoun badge and the med student said something negative about it. Then the student missed a poke and tweeted about it. Wouldn’t you be calling for the student’s expulsion? Because I am pretty sure you would be, in fact very loudly so, which is why I flat out don’t believe you are engaging in a good faith defense.

I would not be calling for her expulsion. I would be hoping that the medical school didn't cave to the woke mob and "cancel" a dumb 20something over an opportunity to correct not only that student, but her peers. Just as I am currently hoping that the medical school doesn't cave to the GQP mob and cancel her.

I have a difficult time believing that you would be on the side of the patient in your reversed hypothetical. More likely you would be ranting in the Daily Wire comment section about how the patient was a snowflake.

I think the pronoun pin is dumb. Don't support pronoun pins, email signatures, etc. I don't think this medical student deserves to have her life ruined over a tweet.


Well, I don’t think a pronoun pin is dumb (I can see the purpose) but I also don’t believe you that if the scenario was reversed you (and her other supporters on this thread) wouldn’t be calling for her immediate expulsion. Do you honestly think the PP who keeps calling people names and told someone else to die in a ditch would be measured and calm in that situation? They’d be acting worse than the Republicans calling for expulsion now are — at least the Republicans are not issuing the poor girl death threats, they just want her expelled. If the scenario was the opposite, she would be receiving death threats from a subset of transactivists as they have a long and widely known history of sending death and rape threats to women they disagree with.

She does not deserve to be expelled. Full-stop.


But you know perfectly well that if the scenario was reversed, the same people defending this doctor would be calling for immediate expulsion and worse.


Over a dumb tweet?

Or over a dumb tweet plus being anti-trans?

Not quite the same situation in reverse.


Here we get to the heart of the matter: you believe maltreatment of certain protected classes is totally fine, so you won’t admit the scenario in reverse is exactly the same just with a different protected class as the issue at hand.

We all know that if the scenario was reversed, the student in question would be receiving copious death and rape threats from the transactivist crowd, as well as calls for expulsion. Your post above just about admits that.

What is the patient's protected class here?


We don’t know (properly) but it is very likely that there is at least one (religion, disability, age, etc.) if not more. Someone in the hospital is much more likely to belong to a protected class, and so it’s highly likely the patient is a protected class member.

LMFAO


Ah, so you admit that it is 100% correct that in a reverse scenario you would calling for expulsion, and probably death and rape. Sounds about correct.

No, I'm laughing at you believing it is "highly likely" the patient was in a protected class because he was in a hospital. Way to make up facts as they suit your needs.


You don’t believe it is highly likely that someone in the hospital getting treatment is over 40, female, and/or possibly disabled? I see statistics and logical thinking are not your strong point.

But since you can’t do math, let’s change the scenario. Let’s say that we know for sure her patient is over 40 and has diabetes. Are you still going to make the ludicrous claim that the reverse scenario is not the same? Or — as I suspect is the case — do you not care about protected classes when they are not trans?
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Anonymous wrote:Those of you defending her, let’s reverse the scenario. Let’s say that the patient wore a pronoun badge and the med student said something negative about it. Then the student missed a poke and tweeted about it. Wouldn’t you be calling for the student’s expulsion? Because I am pretty sure you would be, in fact very loudly so, which is why I flat out don’t believe you are engaging in a good faith defense.

Not sure that anyone is truly defending this girl or her actions, just saying that it's not the big deal the republicans in this thread are presenting it as


There are definitely people defending her.


Who is defending her?

Obviously the tweet was a mistake. But the response from conservatives is over-the-top. “Victim”?



The posters who keep calling other people names and telling them to die in a ditch, etc, while simultaneously insisting—absent any supporting facts—that the stick was unintentional are absolutely defending her.

We cannot know with the facts provided whether the stick was unintentional or not. But her defenders can’t even be honest about that reality.

Uh, I've said in this thread multiple times that we can't prove whether or not the stick was intentional. Saying that she doesn't deserve to lose her career over this is not defending her.


Fine but there are multiple posters (or maybe one prolific poster) who are repeatedly insisting it was unintentional. You are being deliberately obtuse by ignoring them. They are absolutely defending her, and yet if the scenario was reversed, they’d absolutely be calling loudly for expulsion. Come on. You know this is true.


That’s not “defending” - just calling out facts.


Making up false facts to defend her is in fact defending her.


She explained the situation and a friend chimed in.

Unless you’re calling them both liars.


A friend lying to protect a friend? Has that ever happened before?


Not to mention that her tweet only reflected on the karma of the situation - not about her intentionally missing.

So you have three data points indicating that it wasn't intentional. Not to mention the fact that it is a very common situation. So...I guess people with low morals assume the worst.
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Anonymous wrote:Those of you defending her, let’s reverse the scenario. Let’s say that the patient wore a pronoun badge and the med student said something negative about it. Then the student missed a poke and tweeted about it. Wouldn’t you be calling for the student’s expulsion? Because I am pretty sure you would be, in fact very loudly so, which is why I flat out don’t believe you are engaging in a good faith defense.

Not sure that anyone is truly defending this girl or her actions, just saying that it's not the big deal the republicans in this thread are presenting it as


There are definitely people defending her.


Who is defending her?

Obviously the tweet was a mistake. But the response from conservatives is over-the-top. “Victim”?



I think the concern is, if a young student doctor is so openly and publicly celebrating suffering of (or perhaps even harming) an individual who she thinks is transphobic. That she felt ‘this is how to be an ally, I should announce this.’ in Fact, her attempt at signaling support for that cause has probably set it back significantly.
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Anonymous wrote:I made the mistake of reading to see what some people on a conservative subreddit thought and someone actually said "SHE STUCK A PATIENT WITH A NEEDLE SHE SHOULD BE SUED FOR ASSAULT" Lmfao.


Yikes. Can't imagine the level of crazy that happens there.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you defending her, let’s reverse the scenario. Let’s say that the patient wore a pronoun badge and the med student said something negative about it. Then the student missed a poke and tweeted about it. Wouldn’t you be calling for the student’s expulsion? Because I am pretty sure you would be, in fact very loudly so, which is why I flat out don’t believe you are engaging in a good faith defense.

Not sure that anyone is truly defending this girl or her actions, just saying that it's not the big deal the republicans in this thread are presenting it as


There are definitely people defending her.


Who is defending her?

Obviously the tweet was a mistake. But the response from conservatives is over-the-top. “Victim”?



I think the concern is, if a young student doctor is so openly and publicly celebrating suffering of (or perhaps even harming) an individual who she thinks is transphobic. That she felt ‘this is how to be an ally, I should announce this.’ in Fact, her attempt at signaling support for that cause has probably set it back significantly.


Suffering?

Yes, it was a stupid tweet. Should she lose her whole career over it?
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Anonymous wrote:Those of you defending her, let’s reverse the scenario. Let’s say that the patient wore a pronoun badge and the med student said something negative about it. Then the student missed a poke and tweeted about it. Wouldn’t you be calling for the student’s expulsion? Because I am pretty sure you would be, in fact very loudly so, which is why I flat out don’t believe you are engaging in a good faith defense.

I would not be calling for her expulsion. I would be hoping that the medical school didn't cave to the woke mob and "cancel" a dumb 20something over an opportunity to correct not only that student, but her peers. Just as I am currently hoping that the medical school doesn't cave to the GQP mob and cancel her.

I have a difficult time believing that you would be on the side of the patient in your reversed hypothetical. More likely you would be ranting in the Daily Wire comment section about how the patient was a snowflake.

I think the pronoun pin is dumb. Don't support pronoun pins, email signatures, etc. I don't think this medical student deserves to have her life ruined over a tweet.


Well, I don’t think a pronoun pin is dumb (I can see the purpose) but I also don’t believe you that if the scenario was reversed you (and her other supporters on this thread) wouldn’t be calling for her immediate expulsion. Do you honestly think the PP who keeps calling people names and told someone else to die in a ditch would be measured and calm in that situation? They’d be acting worse than the Republicans calling for expulsion now are — at least the Republicans are not issuing the poor girl death threats, they just want her expelled. If the scenario was the opposite, she would be receiving death threats from a subset of transactivists as they have a long and widely known history of sending death and rape threats to women they disagree with.

She does not deserve to be expelled. Full-stop.


But you know perfectly well that if the scenario was reversed, the same people defending this doctor would be calling for immediate expulsion and worse.


Over a dumb tweet?

Or over a dumb tweet plus being anti-trans?

Not quite the same situation in reverse.


Here we get to the heart of the matter: you believe maltreatment of certain protected classes is totally fine, so you won’t admit the scenario in reverse is exactly the same just with a different protected class as the issue at hand.

We all know that if the scenario was reversed, the student in question would be receiving copious death and rape threats from the transactivist crowd, as well as calls for expulsion. Your post above just about admits that.

What is the patient's protected class here?


We don’t know (properly) but it is very likely that there is at least one (religion, disability, age, etc.) if not more. Someone in the hospital is much more likely to belong to a protected class, and so it’s highly likely the patient is a protected class member.

LMFAO


Ah, so you admit that it is 100% correct that in a reverse scenario you would calling for expulsion, and probably death and rape. Sounds about correct.

I don't know that many DCUM posters would be calling for death and rape. That may be common in Republican circles but not here.


Um, you or one of your compatriots literally told someone to go die in a ditch earlier in this thread. Maybe look around you a bit? The only death threats in this thread came from you or one of your buddies.


LOL. It wasn't a "death threat".

It was in response to someone saying they would LEAVE medical care if they saw someone wearing a pronoun pin. Dying in a ditch would be a possible natural consequence of their stupidity (and bigotry) - not a threat of harm.


Man, your contortions to avoid the truth of what we all read are something to see.


What truth? The anti-trans poster did say they would leave the doctor if they saw someone wearing a pronoun pin. Are you debating that happened?
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Anonymous wrote:Those of you defending her, let’s reverse the scenario. Let’s say that the patient wore a pronoun badge and the med student said something negative about it. Then the student missed a poke and tweeted about it. Wouldn’t you be calling for the student’s expulsion? Because I am pretty sure you would be, in fact very loudly so, which is why I flat out don’t believe you are engaging in a good faith defense.

I would not be calling for her expulsion. I would be hoping that the medical school didn't cave to the woke mob and "cancel" a dumb 20something over an opportunity to correct not only that student, but her peers. Just as I am currently hoping that the medical school doesn't cave to the GQP mob and cancel her.

I have a difficult time believing that you would be on the side of the patient in your reversed hypothetical. More likely you would be ranting in the Daily Wire comment section about how the patient was a snowflake.

I think the pronoun pin is dumb. Don't support pronoun pins, email signatures, etc. I don't think this medical student deserves to have her life ruined over a tweet.


Well, I don’t think a pronoun pin is dumb (I can see the purpose) but I also don’t believe you that if the scenario was reversed you (and her other supporters on this thread) wouldn’t be calling for her immediate expulsion. Do you honestly think the PP who keeps calling people names and told someone else to die in a ditch would be measured and calm in that situation? They’d be acting worse than the Republicans calling for expulsion now are — at least the Republicans are not issuing the poor girl death threats, they just want her expelled. If the scenario was the opposite, she would be receiving death threats from a subset of transactivists as they have a long and widely known history of sending death and rape threats to women they disagree with.

She does not deserve to be expelled. Full-stop.


But you know perfectly well that if the scenario was reversed, the same people defending this doctor would be calling for immediate expulsion and worse.


Over a dumb tweet?

Or over a dumb tweet plus being anti-trans?

Not quite the same situation in reverse.


Here we get to the heart of the matter: you believe maltreatment of certain protected classes is totally fine, so you won’t admit the scenario in reverse is exactly the same just with a different protected class as the issue at hand.

We all know that if the scenario was reversed, the student in question would be receiving copious death and rape threats from the transactivist crowd, as well as calls for expulsion. Your post above just about admits that.

What is the patient's protected class here?


We don’t know (properly) but it is very likely that there is at least one (religion, disability, age, etc.) if not more. Someone in the hospital is much more likely to belong to a protected class, and so it’s highly likely the patient is a protected class member.

LMFAO


Ah, so you admit that it is 100% correct that in a reverse scenario you would calling for expulsion, and probably death and rape. Sounds about correct.

No, I'm laughing at you believing it is "highly likely" the patient was in a protected class because he was in a hospital. Way to make up facts as they suit your needs.


You don’t believe it is highly likely that someone in the hospital getting treatment is over 40, female, and/or possibly disabled? I see statistics and logical thinking are not your strong point.

But since you can’t do math, let’s change the scenario. Let’s say that we know for sure her patient is over 40 and has diabetes. Are you still going to make the ludicrous claim that the reverse scenario is not the same? Or — as I suspect is the case — do you not care about protected classes when they are not trans?

You already know he was a man based on the tweet.

And no, if a trans person were stuck twice with a needle to find a vein for bloodwork in a medical setting, I would not be arguing that it was a violation of their rights as a protected class.

You are making this about being pro-trans when in reality, I think the medical student's pronoun pin is idiotic. I'm sick of pronouns this and pronouns that. But to argue that MAYBE the patient who was having bloodwork done in a hospital was a protected class and so a medical student having to stick him twice to find the vein is a violation of his rights BECAUSE he's MAYBE a protected class is f ucking insane.
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