So I voted for the first time in MD tonight

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a man and I could literally show up and vote as my female neighbor becatse it. Would violate law to question gender identity


Do you know their DOB and party affiliation too? You do have to answer those questions.

They can challenge you and make you vote provisional. You still get your vote recorded but it goes through an extra verification process.
if they challenge you why did they refuse to look at my MD license?


Because you weren’t challenged. If you were challenged, they’d ask for ID. If you could provide it, they’d let you vote regularly. If not, you would get a provisional. Some voter authority cards say “show ID” and for those people, they are required to show ID.
so why did she act like my ID was kryptonite?


I don’t get why you care so much? They are told to tell people ID isn’t necessary. Rifling through your stuff may take too long and hold up a line.

Or maybe she was just a little awkward in the way she did it. It’s hard to get sufficient numbers of election judges with early voting. So many are first tiimers.


OP is just a person with too much time on their hands. People have already said that they've had similar experiences where the official didn't "act like the ID was kryptonite."
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a man and I could literally show up and vote as my female neighbor becatse it. Would violate law to question gender identity


Do you know their DOB and party affiliation too? You do have to answer those questions.

They can challenge you and make you vote provisional. You still get your vote recorded but it goes through an extra verification process.
if they challenge you why did they refuse to look at my MD license?


Because you weren’t challenged. If you were challenged, they’d ask for ID. If you could provide it, they’d let you vote regularly. If not, you would get a provisional. Some voter authority cards say “show ID” and for those people, they are required to show ID.
so why did she act like my ID was kryptonite?


Because someone will complain of unfair or uneven treatment if the poll worker deviated from the standard procedure.

Consistency is important in elections. Some voters are flagged as needing to show ID and others aren't. The poll worker should follow procedure exactly to ensure fairness for all.

(My father is an election judge in MoCo).

As for why they don't require ID in all cases, that would disenfranchise voters. For example, there are a number of Amish living in MD and they are against photos, so they are unlikely to have photo ID.
so we give up the sanctity of elections because there may be two Amish people in the state?
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I have an idea! Let’s investigate whether not requiring an ID leads to any significant voter fraud! Let’s also investigate whether requiring an ID prevents eligible voters from voting! Oh, wait...
Anonymous
You can’t even collect welfare benefits without photo ID. Planned parenthood requires photo ID
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Anonymous wrote:so we give up the sanctity of elections because there may be two Amish people in the state?


There are 1,500+ Amish living in Maryland. By comparison, Garett Park (where Floreen used to be mayor) has a population of about 1,000.

That's just one group who may not have IDs. Others are those who are homeless, elderly, or otherwise don't have the money or ability to easily request or renew their ID. Why require it and disenfranchise voters? There have been no reports of widespread voter fraud whatsoever.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a man and I could literally show up and vote as my female neighbor becatse it. Would violate law to question gender identity


Do you know their DOB and party affiliation too? You do have to answer those questions.

They can challenge you and make you vote provisional. You still get your vote recorded but it goes through an extra verification process.
if they challenge you why did they refuse to look at my MD license?


Because you weren’t challenged. If you were challenged, they’d ask for ID. If you could provide it, they’d let you vote regularly. If not, you would get a provisional. Some voter authority cards say “show ID” and for those people, they are required to show ID.
so why did she act like my ID was kryptonite?


I don’t get why you care so much? They are told to tell people ID isn’t necessary. Rifling through your stuff may take too long and hold up a line.

Or maybe she was just a little awkward in the way she did it. It’s hard to get sufficient numbers of election judges with early voting. So many are first tiimers.
my id was in my hand and I was trying to hand it to her and she acted like it was kryptonite.


If she doesn't need to see it she doesn't need to see it. Forcing it upon her was aggressive on your part so perhaps she was worried about your demeanor. You sound like you were trying to make a scene and that could be scary for a volunteer.
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I literally had my id in my hand and I attempted to hand it to her like if you were at passport control and handed your passport to them
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I literally had my id in my hand and I attempted to hand it to her like if you were at passport control and handed your passport to them


Passport control requires your passport. MD election judges do not want them. So keep your germy ID to yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:I literally had my id in my hand and I attempted to hand it to her like if you were at passport control and handed your passport to them


Passport control requires your passport. MD election judges do not want them. So keep your germy ID to yourself.
Maryland is soDemocrat do you really need voter fraud anymore?
Anonymous
Here is what you need to get an ID card in MD:

http://license.mva.maryland.gov/checklist/checklist.aspx

1. Birth certificate or valid US passport. Less than half of Americans have a passport. Who knows where their birth certificate is?
2. Original social security card or a W-2 or pay stub. Who still has their original social security card? And if you don't have a job, you don't have a W-2 or pay stub.
3. 2 proof of residential status in MD, like a utiliity bill, copy of tax return, credit card statement. Low-income, homeless, and unemployed people won't have any of these.

You also need $24 and to go to the Maryland MVA during their open hours (8:30-4:30 M-F, 8:30-12pm Saturday). There are 4 locations in MoCo: Gaithersburg, Walnut Hill, White Oak, Glenmont. Only one (Glenmont) is near a metro station.

Yes, all this can be done, but it's a lot of hurdles to go through, especially for an elderly or unemployed person who would need to do all this just so they can vote.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:She literally acted as if my ID had been s knife and I made a threatening gesture, she literally moved away and put her arms behind her back and said no no IDs


Probably because you were acting like a dick about it.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here is what you need to get an ID card in MD:

http://license.mva.maryland.gov/checklist/checklist.aspx

1. Birth certificate or valid US passport. Less than half of Americans have a passport. Who knows where their birth certificate is?
2. Original social security card or a W-2 or pay stub. Who still has their original social security card? And if you don't have a job, you don't have a W-2 or pay stub.
3. 2 proof of residential status in MD, like a utiliity bill, copy of tax return, credit card statement. Low-income, homeless, and unemployed people won't have any of these.

You also need $24 and to go to the Maryland MVA during their open hours (8:30-4:30 M-F, 8:30-12pm Saturday). There are 4 locations in MoCo: Gaithersburg, Walnut Hill, White Oak, Glenmont. Only one (Glenmont) is near a metro station.

Yes, all this can be done, but it's a lot of hurdles to go through, especially for an elderly or unemployed person who would need to do all this just so they can vote.
i got mine while i was unemployed
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:She literally acted as if my ID had been s knife and I made a threatening gesture, she literally moved away and put her arms behind her back and said no no IDs


Probably because you were acting like a dick about it.


All I did was try to hand it to her
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is what you need to get an ID card in MD:

http://license.mva.maryland.gov/checklist/checklist.aspx

1. Birth certificate or valid US passport. Less than half of Americans have a passport. Who knows where their birth certificate is?
2. Original social security card or a W-2 or pay stub. Who still has their original social security card? And if you don't have a job, you don't have a W-2 or pay stub.
3. 2 proof of residential status in MD, like a utiliity bill, copy of tax return, credit card statement. Low-income, homeless, and unemployed people won't have any of these.

You also need $24 and to go to the Maryland MVA during their open hours (8:30-4:30 M-F, 8:30-12pm Saturday). There are 4 locations in MoCo: Gaithersburg, Walnut Hill, White Oak, Glenmont. Only one (Glenmont) is near a metro station.

Yes, all this can be done, but it's a lot of hurdles to go through, especially for an elderly or unemployed person who would need to do all this just so they can vote.
i got mine while i was unemployed


It's all possible, it's just difficult. If you're unemployed, you may still have a past pay stub or your social security card.

The point is, it's not that easy for certain groups to get ID cards in MD, so requiring them in order to vote would make it very difficult for them to be able to vote.
Anonymous
Low income and unemployed people have bills to pay so they have bills to show as proof of residency. Homeless people might not be residents . Handing them a pint of vodka to vote isn’t proof of residency. How do you know they won’t be in DC or VA tomorrow? And we give up the sanctity of the vote for homeless people?
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