Why so many Latinos in Fairfax County?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Quick google search shows 15.4% of Arlington is Hispanic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlington_County,_Virginia#Demographics

15.58% Hispanic in FFX county:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairfax_County,_Virginia#Demographics

Why are there SO MANY more Hispanics in FFX? Well, the truth is, there aren't.

I'd debate those numbers. The school numbers are much higher than that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First, it's true that illegals are being resettled here from other parts of the country. But second, Fairfax is a "sanctuary city," which means officials refuse to comply with federsl law regarding illegals - and do not turn them over to the Feds. This alome makes the county a draw for illegals. Related to that, there has been a pronounced rate of gang-related crime, especially recently, from gang members (who primarily come from El Salvador).

The topic of illegal immigration has been a hot one for Virginia, and pretty much falling along party lines. Last year, Virginia's Democratic AG (or was it the deputy AG) condoned sanctuary cities, and this spring, there was legislation advanced by three lawmakers (Republicans) to crack down on this, among other issues.

In my mind, there is no excuse for states to violate federsl law, and sanctusry cities should be abolished. This is another case of political correctness run amok, and the interests of law-breaking illegal immigrants are given priority ove the safety of Americsn lives. The case of Steinle (can't recall her first name) in California is a prime - and horrendous - example.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/in-va-lawmakers-want-to-tighten-stance-on-illegal-immigrants/2016/03/05/f15879fe-e08e-11e5-8d98-4b3d9215ade1_story.html

states are not violating federal law by not deporting illegals because states don't have the right to deport illegals. That is the feds' job. If they want them, they will come get them.

Also, some states have made pot legal even in DC, home of our fed. gov't. That is a violation of federal law, but the feds aren't going after the people because it's a small blib of a larger problem. Same for illegals. The feds have larger game to catch - illegals who commit crimes. Wouldn't you say that should take precedence over a 6 yr old illegal immigrant attending your precious FFX schools?

As a citizen, though, you have every right to report them. Here's their contact # to report crimes. It's on their website, top of the page: https://www.ice.gov/

Call 1-866-DHS-2-ICE

PP - and no, no, no. The complaint isn't about an illegal immigrant 6-year old attending our "precious Fairfax Schools" (can you possibly keep the condescion out of your replies?), but about dangerous criminals that sanctuary cities (county in this instance) are shielding from the Feds, refusing to turn them over when directed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing. If you have immigrant families moving into your community, it is a great thing. Stop complaining. It means your local economy is healthy and creating jobs. Not necessarily great jobs, but jobs for people willing to work hard jobs to get their kids in good schools and communities so they will have more opportunities.

Perhaps true for white collar immigrants moving into an area (mainly Asians/South Asians) but really not so for the demographic that OP made reference to ....... because that often represents a run down area or even what might be viewed as a "changing neighborhood". Even liberal whites - actually especially liberal whites - stay the hell away from that sort of area.

There is no such thing as local growth for white collar families only. Somebody has to build the houses and fill the low paying jobs provide all the public and private services and retail serving the white collar people and their employers. Slums next to affluent areas do not occur naturally and they are not inherent by ethnicity. They are products of discrimination in housing, employment, and education. OP and others in this thread want more discrimination based on ethnicity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Quick google search shows 15.4% of Arlington is Hispanic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlington_County,_Virginia#Demographics

15.58% Hispanic in FFX county:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairfax_County,_Virginia#Demographics

Why are there SO MANY more Hispanics in FFX? Well, the truth is, there aren't.

The FARMS rate in APS last year was 30.1% while the rate in FCPS was 27.5% according to the Virginia DOE.

Many of the Hispanics in some FCPS schools are middle and upper-class kids, including the children of World Bank and embassy employees.

[Anonymous]

Here is what I have seen

Annandale is a perfect example

You have an existing area that was solidly middle class with decent schools turned into a giant crap area overun with poor and in many cases illegal hispanics

Thats why people are concerned

As opposed to what Asians do..... they go to areas and they become better...

Still I can understand why blacks don't like whites coming to DC and why whites don't like hispanics and asians coming to Fairfax County areas. People don't like outsiders. And guess what Asians and Hispanics in their home countries don't like outsiders either especially other asians and hispanics. Other latin americans hate Salvadorians for example.

[Anonymous]

Our incomes are much higher than low income people could get elsewhere and so many people here aren't willing to do any manual labor at all so there's lots of side jobs available.

This is pretty much it. In other parts of the US, white people mow their own lawns, clean their own houses, etc. We have high incomes here and also pay lower income people more than they could get in other areas. Yes, it costs more to live here, but lower income people are pretty savvy when it comes to knowing how to pinch pennies (like renting a room in an apartment and sharing kitchen, etc.).

The lifestyle here is just way different. People have more money, but I often wonder if that money translates into a much higher quality of life. We have congestion, pollution, lack of open space, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Quick google search shows 15.4% of Arlington is Hispanic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlington_County,_Virginia#Demographics

15.58% Hispanic in FFX county:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairfax_County,_Virginia#Demographics

Why are there SO MANY more Hispanics in FFX? Well, the truth is, there aren't.

I'd debate those numbers. The school numbers are much higher than that.

You know best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Our incomes are much higher than low income people could get elsewhere and so many people here aren't willing to do any manual labor at all so there's lots of side jobs available.

This is pretty much it. In other parts of the US, white people mow their own lawns, clean their own houses, etc. We have high incomes here and also pay lower income people more than they could get in other areas. Yes, it costs more to live here, but lower income people are pretty savvy when it comes to knowing how to pinch pennies (like renting a room in an apartment and sharing kitchen, etc.).

The lifestyle here is just way different. People have more money, but I often wonder if that money translates into a much higher quality of life. We have congestion, pollution, lack of open space, etc.

This is the same thing I have observed. If the jobs weren't here or us citizens were willing to live servers families to a house, Hispanics would not be here doing the jobs.

We are some of the only people on our block who do our own yard work and don't hire Hispanics. I also make sure, as much as I possibly can, that people we hire to do work around the house are us citizens. I also pay more to hire native Virginians, Marylanders, etc.. We own an older house, drive older cars, but try to use our money in ways that help fellow US citizens. (and, not a Trump supporter, he also hires the cheapest labor he can.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is what I have seen

Annandale is a perfect example

You have an existing area that was solidly middle class with decent schools turned into a giant crap area overun with poor and in many cases illegal hispanics

Thats why people are concerned

As opposed to what Asians do..... they go to areas and they become better...

Still I can understand why blacks don't like whites coming to DC and why whites don't like hispanics and asians coming to Fairfax County areas. People don't like outsiders. And guess what Asians and Hispanics in their home countries don't like outsiders either especially other asians and hispanics. Other latin americans hate Salvadorians for example.

Does Annandale really make your point though? There is also a HUGE Korean population in Annandale. So, if Asians coming to an area made them better, wouldn't Annandale be a shining example of Asian immigrants making things better?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are there so many non English speaking Latinos in Fairfac County? Is there some sort of deportation amnesty going on? And are they all on welfare/housing assistance/food stamps, because how the heck can they afford to live here?

Perhaps you should review some history. Lots of immigrants came to this country without knowing any English. Many didn't need to learn English because they settled among others that spoke their language. Their kids learned English and often translated for the parents. None of this is new. None of this should be shocking. If it is, please go to the library and start reading.

Also, other groups do this too. I've often had to translate through kids whose parents were... Asian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First, it's true that illegals are being resettled here from other parts of the country. But second, Fairfax is a "sanctuary city," which means officials refuse to comply with federsl law regarding illegals - and do not turn them over to the Feds. This alome makes the county a draw for illegals. Related to that, there has been a pronounced rate of gang-related crime, especially recently, from gang members (who primarily come from El Salvador).

The topic of illegal immigration has been a hot one for Virginia, and pretty much falling along party lines. Last year, Virginia's Democratic AG (or was it the deputy AG) condoned sanctuary cities, and this spring, there was legislation advanced by three lawmakers (Republicans) to crack down on this, among other issues.

In my mind, there is no excuse for states to violate federsl law, and sanctusry cities should be abolished. This is another case of political correctness run amok, and the interests of law-breaking illegal immigrants are given priority ove the safety of Americsn lives. The case of Steinle (can't recall her first name) in California is a prime - and horrendous - example.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/in-va-lawmakers-want-to-tighten-stance-on-illegal-immigrants/2016/03/05/f15879fe-e08e-11e5-8d98-4b3d9215ade1_story.html

states are not violating federal law by not deporting illegals because states don't have the right to deport illegals. That is the feds' job. If they want them, they will come get them.

Also, some states have made pot legal even in DC, home of our fed. gov't. That is a violation of federal law, but the feds aren't going after the people because it's a small blib of a larger problem. Same for illegals. The feds have larger game to catch - illegals who commit crimes. Wouldn't you say that should take precedence over a 6 yr old illegal immigrant attending your precious FFX schools?

As a citizen, though, you have every right to report them. Here's their contact # to report crimes. It's on their website, top of the page: https://www.ice.gov/

Call 1-866-DHS-2-ICE

PP - and no, no, no. The complaint isn't about an illegal immigrant 6-year old attending our "precious Fairfax Schools" (can you possibly keep the condescion out of your replies?), but about dangerous criminals that sanctuary cities (county in this instance) are shielding from the Feds, refusing to turn them over when directed.

PP here. Sorry for the condescension. So let's talk about the "dangerous" illegal immigrants. Are there dangerous illegal immigrants that FFX county is shielding? Can you name one?

In most states, and I believe CA as well, if an illegal immigrants is deemed "dangerous", ie a violent criminal past, the person is kept and handed over to ICE. The man you refer to in the CA shooting had no violent criminal record at the time he was apprehended. That's why SF let him go.

"San Francisco, as a sanctuary city, honors immigration holds only if the person has a violent record or if a judge had vetted the hold or approved a warrant. In this case, ICE did not seek a court order, Sheriff Ross Mirkarimi said."

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-immigration-sanctuary-kathryn-steinle-20150723-htmlstory.html

Can you site an instance where a dangerous violent illegal immigrant was knowingly shielded by a county?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First, it's true that illegals are being resettled here from other parts of the country. But second, Fairfax is a "sanctuary city," which means officials refuse to comply with federsl law regarding illegals - and do not turn them over to the Feds. This alome makes the county a draw for illegals. Related to that, there has been a pronounced rate of gang-related crime, especially recently, from gang members (who primarily come from El Salvador).

The topic of illegal immigration has been a hot one for Virginia, and pretty much falling along party lines. Last year, Virginia's Democratic AG (or was it the deputy AG) condoned sanctuary cities, and this spring, there was legislation advanced by three lawmakers (Republicans) to crack down on this, among other issues.

In my mind, there is no excuse for states to violate federsl law, and sanctusry cities should be abolished. This is another case of political correctness run amok, and the interests of law-breaking illegal immigrants are given priority ove the safety of Americsn lives. The case of Steinle (can't recall her first name) in California is a prime - and horrendous - example.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/in-va-lawmakers-want-to-tighten-stance-on-illegal-immigrants/2016/03/05/f15879fe-e08e-11e5-8d98-4b3d9215ade1_story.html

states are not violating federal law by not deporting illegals because states don't have the right to deport illegals. That is the feds' job. If they want them, they will come get them.

Also, some states have made pot legal even in DC, home of our fed. gov't. That is a violation of federal law, but the feds aren't going after the people because it's a small blib of a larger problem. Same for illegals. The feds have larger game to catch - illegals who commit crimes. Wouldn't you say that should take precedence over a 6 yr old illegal immigrant attending your precious FFX schools?

As a citizen, though, you have every right to report them. Here's their contact # to report crimes. It's on their website, top of the page: https://www.ice.gov/

Call 1-866-DHS-2-ICE

PP - and no, no, no. The complaint isn't about an illegal immigrant 6-year old attending our "precious Fairfax Schools" (can you possibly keep the condescion out of your replies?), but about dangerous criminals that sanctuary cities (county in this instance) are shielding from the Feds, refusing to turn them over when directed.

PP here. Sorry for the condescension. So let's talk about the "dangerous" illegal immigrants. Are there dangerous illegal immigrants that FFX county is shielding? Can you name one?

In most states, and I believe CA as well, if an illegal immigrants is deemed "dangerous", ie a violent criminal past, the person is kept and handed over to ICE. The man you refer to in the CA shooting had no violent criminal record at the time he was apprehended. That's why SF let him go.

"San Francisco, as a sanctuary city, honors immigration holds only if the person has a violent record or if a judge had vetted the hold or approved a warrant. In this case, ICE did not seek a court order, Sheriff Ross Mirkarimi said."

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-immigration-sanctuary-kathryn-steinle-20150723-htmlstory.html

Can you site an instance where a dangerous violent illegal immigrant was knowingly shielded by a county?

Apology accepted. For the record, I have no children in Fairfax schools, so my concern has nothing to do with my (non-existent) little snowflake.

Now then, you say that the CA shooter of Kate Steinle had no criminal record, but that is false. He had been convicted of seven (7) felonies and had even deported five times, yet kept returning. He expressly said (link to article below) that he returned to San Francisco because he knew authorities would not turn him over - and that was true. SF authorities ignored the detainer and request to return this criminal to custody. As a result, this young woman with a promising future is dead and her family is left to live with the loss for the rest of their lives.

Also for the record, I am not one of these conservative "crazies" who think we should round up millions of illegal immigrants, separate parent from child, and deport them. But if they come into our country (illegally) and we are to educate their children and provide medical care, I do not think it too much to ask that they obey our laws, just as I do. A minor traffic citation, OK....even a little pot, as you mentioned, OK....but anything more than that, they have lost their right (technically they don't have one) to remain here. Doesn't even have to be violent. As someone who entered this country illegally, if you come into my place of business and shoplift some items, I say no leniency. Your blatant disrespect for others' property, particularly given your status as an illegal, earns you a ticket back. (I'm using the word "you" generically. I don't mean YOU, specifically, of course.) Behave, you stay....you don't, you won't. Does that not sound reasonable?

http://dailysignal.com/2015/07/07/how-san-francisco-aided-and-abetted-the-murder-of-kate-steinle/

[Anonymous]

Same poster from above....

Here is another example of an illegal immigrant who had served 17 years in prison for attempted murder, and was released back to his sanctuary city in Connecticut. He went on to brutally murder a 25-year-old young woman. (I could find many more examples, but I think I've made my point.)

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2016/02/u-s-failed-3-times-to-deport-illegal-alien-who-murdered-woman/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Same poster from above....

Here is another example of an illegal immigrant who had served 17 years in prison for attempted murder, and was released back to his sanctuary city in Connecticut. He went on to brutally murder a 25-year-old young woman. (I could find many more examples, but I think I've made my point.)

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2016/02/u-s-failed-3-times-to-deport-illegal-alien-who-murdered-woman/

I can''t believe that PP even made the statement to begin with. How could someone NOT KNOW that illegals with criminal records are indeed NOT reported?

[Anonymous]

Thing is that Trump has a point when he says we are getting the worst of the worst and I say this as a hispanic. I asked a relative from Chile why people from our city never come to the US but only the poorest of the poor country folk who have no education and disregard for the law in their country and when they come to the US illegally and they just said that since they don't live in the capital or the 'rich areas' of their home countries then the process to obtain a visa is quicker without an interview even that is required from the educated wealtheir people who live closer to the capital.