I have ADD and never really thought of the vacation planning as an ADD thing. I always thought it was a me thing. Question: Do you like planning your vacations far in advance? I mean, I do it. I have my kids enrolled in summer camps and vacations planned for June and August. But it doesn’t feel real too me. That time is so far in the future, I can’t really wrap my head around it. So, my subjective experience of planning vacations months in advance is more like making my will or doing taxes or something like that. It’s kind of an arduous task. It’s miles away from the joyful experience of planning something fun in the near future. Do you feel like that? Or not? |
| Have too many kids and wonder why they can't get anything done because the babies are so cute to cuddle with. Not plan for the future |
Do these introverts also have ADD? I’m not really following. |
Yes. 3 of the 4 for sure and diagnosed. The mother after 50 years of it is a shell of a person, but eventually kept life very simple for them and for her. Basically stayed home and read books, minimal toys or clothes or trips. She believes everyone should live like that. |
My house is messy but my car is not. I don't allow regular eating in the car. Toddlers could have plain Cheerios and only water. On long road trips, grapes, crackers, peanuts, bananas are o.k. but all trash is immediately thrown out at next stop. It helps a lot. |
I feel like time far in the future is equally as real and equally as joyful, or maybe just slightly less real. I wouldn't say I really enjoy planning vacations-- I don't do it to get my jollies from the planning. I plan vacations because I'm going to enjoy the vacation itself, and I don't find the planning "arduous". It's just not that fun in itself. Planning months in advance means getting better deals on flights and hotels, it makes it possible to plan with other people who need to plan in advance, and for things that sell out, it's the only way the experience can happen at all. Paying extra for stuff because you planned late is what people mean by the "ADD Tax". Not being able to really process the distant future is definitely an ADD thing. |
I should have revised that - I didn’t realize that other people could manage that stuff without it being EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. Like, a habit of putting your keys in the same place or putting dishes directly in the dishwasher. I always thought the people who habitually do that, remembered it every time and I was just ‘lazy’ for not being able to do that. I got treatment because work was impossible for me - my job was easier than my previous job, but it was hard for me to get anything done unless it was last minute. I had a friend who was diagnosed as an adult because her son was diagnosed and she had been talking about adult ADHD, and it was like a lightbulb. Turns out, my last job, which was 70% putting out metaphorical fires someone else caused, was perfect for someone like me. It’s an emergency and a new problem we haven’t seen before - I can hyper focus and get something done in record time. Make me responsible for self-motivating in a day to day management of a project, though? Impossible. Now I’m much more forgiving. I realize that I have limitations on how I can handle things and do things, especially around the house, so I set up systems that mostly work and try not to beat myself up when they don’t. And redundancies redundancies redundancies. If there wasn’t autopay, my credit score would tank, if I couldn’t have a calendar in my pocket, on my computer, and on the kitchen counter, with reminders on when to leave, we’d never do anything. |
My father did, my mom did all his executive functioning, and did the same for us kids. My mom is so used to it she likely thinks (but doesn’t say) that this is just normal, and I’m making a bigger deal out of it than necessary- because I’m a successful adult. I’m also a woman, so when I was a girl in the 80s/90s, ADHD was boys who couldn’t sit still in class and ddi poorly on tests, I was a chatterbox, who couldn’t make friends with kids my own age, could spend hours reading, and did very well in school, but only when I liked the subject. |
I feel like that far-ahead planning is an American thing. My European (Northern Europe) cousin could not believe I was booking a kid's birthday venue in early March for a late April party. And I was worried I was late. |
I don't want to single anyone out here but I have questions for those with ADHD. How do you feel about have problems like this and how does it make you feel? I'm honestly curious and not trying to be rude or snarky or anything like that at all. |
I am so thankful for auto-pay! When I was growing up, my UMC parents would forget to pay the bills sometimes, and the electricity would go out or the cable would stop. I’m SO SO grateful that I don’t have to worry about this. I have found ways to make my ADD work for me at work too. I take on a lot of last minute stuff, which works well for me. It doesn’t feel any different to me to schedule something far in advance or at the last minute. It’s very appreciated and highly compensated. I’ve also learned to tell friends that it’s easier for me to schedule things at the last minute. I do schedule things in advance, but I definitely prefer the, “what are you guys doing today?” phone call. |
Well, when I was growing up, I felt awful and like I couldn’t get anything together. As a young adult, prior to diagnosis, I sometimes felt worthless. I couldn’t understand why I couldn’t do things that other people could. I attempted suicide at one point. Like others, I was diagnosed when my child was diagnosed. A light bulb went off. I started to read about it and understand myself and my child better and was able to explain myself to other people better. I wrote above that I always make sure to tell my friends to call me if they are bored. I will likely want to make plans that day! I hope my kids don’t have the experience that I did growing up. |
+1 - but not a suicide attempt. So much self-loathing. I finally don’t feel like a lazy PoS because I gave up on one career path after earring a PhD for another career that required another graduate degree as well as my PhD. Despite succeeding at that second career, I always felt like I was a loser because I didn’t have what it took for the first one. Until I realized, no, that first career would have been a horrible fit for someone with ADHD. |
Maybe they feel like they’d be rejecting or negating the way their own parents taught them to love, and the sacrifices their parents made to keep up with the NT world. And since the “normal” way is ALWAYS hard, it’s incredibly difficult to tell when you’re making things “unnecessarily complicated,” and difficult to stop even when you realize it. So you just opt out of stuff completely for your sanity and survival, because well, that’s not bad for the kids either, to have parents who don’t take on more than they can manage. I’m mostly offering my take on how my parents may have felt, but I see this in myself as well. I believe the rigidity also helped them to be consistent with structure and disciplining. As for my family now, we’re not a double-diagnosis family bc DH is NT, but I often feel like we are bc he has a lot of the “learned/weaponized incompetence” -type behaviors around the house. I just do not have the bandwidth to pick up the slack, so things are unhappily chaotic as described by others above. We have very uneven earning power as well (similar to others, I too am comically, ludicrously underemployed…didn’t know that was a thing), so I often feel stressed and ashamed about the fact that I’m not picking up the slack at home. |
OMG. I’ve never before on DCUM felt compelled to write “I could have written that” but I feel so seen. (((Hugs))) to you and PP. Wish we could all meet up for a coffee and talk about this stuff. |