Bethesda Soccer Plans

Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sad that they ousted Lisa. She was the best thing that had happened to that club in a long time. Interesting how they have gone from 12 women coaches and staff to now 4 or 5. Good ol' boys are running the show. Not sure how a soccer coach with no busienss experience can run a club vs. someone with a Master's Degree from Georgetown in Sports Management. Not a good look for them. [b]Word from disgruntled coaches say that PPP was received but they aren't using it to restore salaries or return fuloughed employees[/b]. No reserves means no refunds and the hurry up to collect fall fees. [/quote]

I call BS on this. The PPP loan forgiveness require any entity to use at least 75% of the money on payroll (gross pay + health benefits) for 8 weeks. If an entity doesn’t, the loan is not forgiven. The loan is a 1% loan with a 2-year term. [/quote]

this isnt fully correct. there are way around that[/quote]

Please share. There’s always ways around doing things legally, but it’s a direct way straight to jail. [/quote]


This may help some...

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/878914.page[/quote]

OMG. I thought you would share something intelligent. That thread is filled with erroneous and BS information. [/quote]



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Then intelligently look it up yourself. There are links in that thread lead you to the information that you seek- if you would take to time to look instead of being a keyboard commando.

For example...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonynitti/2020/04/15/ten-things-we-need-to-know-about-paycheck-protection-program-loan-forgiveness/#12880dea3291

which specifically notes that a company does not have to immediately hire back furloughed employees and the employees do not need to be the same employees.

I found that info through the BS information thread.

Im not defending either side- Im a parent who has lost money also. Just stating facts. [/quote]

you are correct. hes not. i work for the state so can confirm. [/quote]

:lol: [/quote]

Sorry that was a smiling emoji but the scripts aren't working...
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sad that they ousted Lisa. She was the best thing that had happened to that club in a long time. Interesting how they have gone from 12 women coaches and staff to now 4 or 5. Good ol' boys are running the show. Not sure how a soccer coach with no busienss experience can run a club vs. someone with a Master's Degree from Georgetown in Sports Management. Not a good look for them. [b]Word from disgruntled coaches say that PPP was received but they aren't using it to restore salaries or return fuloughed employees[/b]. No reserves means no refunds and the hurry up to collect fall fees. [/quote]

I call BS on this. The PPP loan forgiveness require any entity to use at least 75% of the money on payroll (gross pay + health benefits) for 8 weeks. If an entity doesn’t, the loan is not forgiven. The loan is a 1% loan with a 2-year term. [/quote]

this isnt fully correct. there are way around that[/quote]

Please share. There’s always ways around doing things legally, but it’s a direct way straight to jail. [/quote]


This may help some...

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/878914.page[/quote]

OMG. I thought you would share something intelligent. That thread is filled with erroneous and BS information. [/quote]



****
Then intelligently look it up yourself. There are links in that thread lead you to the information that you seek- if you would take to time to look instead of being a keyboard commando.

For example...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonynitti/2020/04/15/ten-things-we-need-to-know-about-paycheck-protection-program-loan-forgiveness/#12880dea3291

which specifically notes that a company does not have to immediately hire back furloughed employees and the employees do not need to be the same employees.

I found that info through the BS information thread.

Im not defending either side- Im a parent who has lost money also. Just stating facts. [/quote]

you are correct. hes not. i work for the state so can confirm. [/quote]

You work for the “state”. This is hilarious. I hope you realize that the SBA and IRS are Federal Agencies, NOT State.
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sad that they ousted Lisa. She was the best thing that had happened to that club in a long time. Interesting how they have gone from 12 women coaches and staff to now 4 or 5. Good ol' boys are running the show. Not sure how a soccer coach with no busienss experience can run a club vs. someone with a Master's Degree from Georgetown in Sports Management. Not a good look for them. [b]Word from disgruntled coaches say that PPP was received but they aren't using it to restore salaries or return fuloughed employees[/b]. No reserves means no refunds and the hurry up to collect fall fees. [/quote]

I call BS on this. The PPP loan forgiveness require any entity to use at least 75% of the money on payroll (gross pay + health benefits) for 8 weeks. If an entity doesn’t, the loan is not forgiven. The loan is a 1% loan with a 2-year term. [/quote]

this isnt fully correct. there are way around that[/quote]

Please share. There’s always ways around doing things legally, but it’s a direct way straight to jail. [/quote]


This may help some...

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/878914.page[/quote]

OMG. I thought you would share something intelligent. That thread is filled with erroneous and BS information. [/quote]



****
Then intelligently look it up yourself. There are links in that thread lead you to the information that you seek- if you would take to time to look instead of being a keyboard commando.

For example...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonynitti/2020/04/15/ten-things-we-need-to-know-about-paycheck-protection-program-loan-forgiveness/#12880dea3291

which specifically notes that a company does not have to immediately hire back furloughed employees and the employees do not need to be the same employees.

I found that info through the BS information thread.

Im not defending either side- Im a parent who has lost money also. Just stating facts. [/quote]

you are correct. hes not. i work for the state so can confirm. [/quote]

:lol: [/quote]

Sorry that was a smiling emoji but the scripts aren't working...[/quote]

The PP above is 100% correct. At least 75% of the PPP money has to be used for Payroll. Companies/businesses has until 6/30 to rehire their employees back. There’s a Full Time Equivalent (FTE) calculation as part of the forgiveness to determine if a company maintains or rehires all of their employees back and at the same level. Otherwise the forgiveness amount gets reduced. There’s a lot of misinformation on this and the other thread about PPP. I hope people read the SBA website themselves before spouting false information.
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sad that they ousted Lisa. She was the best thing that had happened to that club in a long time. Interesting how they have gone from 12 women coaches and staff to now 4 or 5. Good ol' boys are running the show. Not sure how a soccer coach with no busienss experience can run a club vs. someone with a Master's Degree from Georgetown in Sports Management. Not a good look for them. [b]Word from disgruntled coaches say that PPP was received but they aren't using it to restore salaries or return fuloughed employees[/b]. No reserves means no refunds and the hurry up to collect fall fees. [/quote]

I call BS on this. The PPP loan forgiveness require any entity to use at least 75% of the money on payroll (gross pay + health benefits) for 8 weeks. If an entity doesn’t, the loan is not forgiven. The loan is a 1% loan with a 2-year term. [/quote]

this isnt fully correct. there are way around that[/quote]

Please share. There’s always ways around doing things legally, but it’s a direct way straight to jail. [/quote]


This may help some...

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/878914.page[/quote]

OMG. I thought you would share something intelligent. That thread is filled with erroneous and BS information. [/quote]



****
Then intelligently look it up yourself. There are links in that thread lead you to the information that you seek- if you would take to time to look instead of being a keyboard commando.

For example...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonynitti/2020/04/15/ten-things-we-need-to-know-about-paycheck-protection-program-loan-forgiveness/#12880dea3291

which specifically notes that a company does not have to immediately hire back furloughed employees and the employees do not need to be the same employees.

I found that info through the BS information thread.

Im not defending either side- Im a parent who has lost money also. Just stating facts. [/quote]

you are correct. hes not. i work for the state so can confirm. [/quote]

You work for the “state”. This is hilarious. I hope you realize that the SBA and IRS are Federal Agencies, NOT State. [/quote]

Yup. The last I checked, the PPP is a Federal Program. :)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:With all of the offers that BSC has sent out, are they requiring commitment and payment within days of offer?

I’m asking since BSC is doing virtual training this season and will not provide any refunds. Hence, the same can happen for Fall 2020 season and even for Spring 2021 season as well.


This is FAKE NEWS. The Spring season has not been canceled yet, and it is possible some games may be played (in MD). Maybe, maybe not. But uncertain for sure. With that uncertainty, it would be silly for BSC or any similar MD club to formulate a refund policy (which is dependent on how much of the season has been canceled). There may be some refunds (though I doubt full refunds) and/or credit rollovers, etc. You speaking out of your posterior when you say BSC "will not provide any refunds."

Just. Stop.
What planet do you live in? There will be no soccer played in 2020. YOU just stop.
Anonymous
Back to the thread topic, hoping to hear an update from bsc soon and that email wasn't flash and smoke. If there is no fall soccer, the right thing would be to credit or refund fall fees for those who signed up considering they seemed to be first to send invites.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This board can be very negative and some posters who seem to have old grudges.

We have had a good experience this year on girls ECNL side. Nice girls and nice parents. Our daughter misses her team and soccer terribly. Looking forward to sunny days again when the girls are back together . Nice to hear them laughing on zoom calls - but will be great to hear them laugh after practice. I even miss all the driving around to practice . . .


Like an earlier posted mentioned, the younger age groups are way different to the older ones.

A handful of parents on each of the older ECNL teams are just nuts, especially if they have been with the club for a while.

Anonymous
It's, in theory at least, the last day for us to accept or decline the team offer. With no firm information on how they're handling anything going forward, we're going to decline, and figure things out in the fall.
Hope others are doing the same.
Anonymous
^^^Which team for decline? Anyone declining regional ECNL?
Anonymous
Our coach said there is announcement soon on refunds and policy going forward . Maybe today
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Our coach said there is announcement soon on refunds and policy going forward . Maybe today


It would have been nice to have the announcement before the deadline for invites so parents could make an informed decision. But that would be too much like right.
Anonymous
Any news on the boys side? Arlington just announced they will play ECNL.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Any news on the boys side? Arlington just announced they will play ECNL.


Holding out at this point might be pointless, there has been limited information from MLS league and given the volume of former local DA clubs going ECNL will surely create limited local play for MLS which equates to lots of travel and increase in cost. DA's exit could have been a lot smoother if they had worked with the MLS and DA clubs so now they have basically lost the majority of the clubs to ECNL. My vote is for DCU, Armor, and BSC to just roll into ECNL and call it a day. Why cares what he league is called!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any news on the boys side? Arlington just announced they will play ECNL.


Holding out at this point might be pointless, there has been limited information from MLS league and given the volume of former local DA clubs going ECNL will surely create limited local play for MLS which equates to lots of travel and increase in cost. DA's exit could have been a lot smoother if they had worked with the MLS and DA clubs so now they have basically lost the majority of the clubs to ECNL. My vote is for DCU, Armor, and BSC to just roll into ECNL and call it a day. Why cares what he league is called!


For ecnl and clubs financial health it would be smart to increase ecnl to 6-8 teams per state where possible. As soon as your state opens you can start to playing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's, in theory at least, the last day for us to accept or decline the team offer. With no firm information on how they're handling anything going forward, we're going to decline, and figure things out in the fall.
Hope others are doing the same.
I have heard the same thing from a few BSC families. Some families have 3 kids, so they would be out $10k in the likely scenario that soccer does not take place. Even if soccer comes back in 2021 in some form, that is a lot of money to commit to at a time of uncertainty.
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