Georgetown Prep decisions posted (huge wow factors!)
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Anonymous
NP here. Ok, PP- first, get over yourself. Second, the person to whom you replied most likely has absolutely no affiliation with Prep. |
Anonymous
not a good reflection of the GP community as it appears students have found this forum |
Anonymous
OK. And you are right. I’m not at all important. But on this topic, I appear to be way ahead of you. There are 28 Jesuit colleges and universities in the US. There are 68 Jesuit high schools in 29 states. Many of these high schools were once connected to a university (Fordham Prep, St Joes Prep, BC Prep, Scranton Prep, etc., etc.) so it’s hardly a local phenomenon. I have no idea what your deal is, but this forum sometimes contains those who see GP as an alternative, but have only a vague understanding of what makes Prep and Gonzaga unique. They don’t understand the history, the Jesuits or Jesuit education or who sends their boys there or why. “What’s a Jesuit?” Seriously? |
Anonymous
The same could be argued about the violinist, cellist, or even a straight a student who does well on SATs because of prep courses in tutors. But for some reason people are particularly upset about sports. |
Anonymous
That’s a valid point. The truth of the matter is that parents are upset whenever the Admissions criteria used doesn’t benefit or advantage them. The parents of studious kids think that grades and test scores ought to be all important. The parents of athletes think athletic ability ought to count heavily. The alumni are all for the schools using Legacy as an important factor. The fact is that it’s the colleges that set up the rules and the criteria. What they do is beyond the preferences of any parents. But, that won’t stop the parents from carping and complaining about a system they see as “unfair!” Because it doesn’t benefit them. |
Anonymous
The PP you’re replying to thinks that travel/club sports & studying for the SAT cost the same amount of money (they do not!). A kid can excel on the SAT at their own volition without any money or parental involvement. The same is not true in sports. |
Anonymous
My experience at a Power 5 school on scholarship was different than described. I came from a poor single mother home with lots of poverty. I might add that I did go to a very good academic high school, public but equal to many private schools (28 average ACT). I ran a 4:10 mile in 10th grade, and did not belong to any clubs, support groups or teams other than my high school team. Only trained in summers my last two years in high school. Was more of a sprinter than a distance runner and would travel to Waukegan Illinois to train with sprinters much tougher than my (nice) classmates. Nothing formal, but they became my friends. Never would have run 48 seconds for the 400 in high school without them. After my 10th grade year that I was recruited by almost everyone. No one in high level track circles cared about club sports or pedigree. My high school competition was from East St. Louis and the southern suburbs of Chicago. The track coaches and schools did care about the volume of training you did, because that gave D1 coaches an indication of how high your ceiling was. Yes, it took money to go to meets like the Drake Relays, or meets in California, but once you became a national level athlete the school would fund this kind of thing.I ran in one race in California in high school where the meet promoter paid my expenses. I think if you are really good, you will be noticed. I suspect what the posters here refer to is using sports as a means to get into a competitive school as opposed to being a truly top flight athlete. I can see this being the case. By the way, my classmates knew my poverty predicament and they pushed me through social pressure to be a good student, even though I had parents with no college. I am friends with these peers to this day. I ended up being a better student than athlete, as unlikely as I thought that would be. The rules around athletics and admission are abusive, but I did not want to abuse them myself - didn't make me better in any sense - I just didn't want to appear entitled or worse yet stupid. |
Anonymous
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NP. My “elite” basketball player played 2 AAU seasons at $600 a pop. Now that it’s high school level it’s really just one long AAU Spring/Summer at $800 a pop. Only 1-2 out of town tournaments at about $300/each in expenses. Next year, he will play EYBL so expenses will go down significantly. So maybe $1500 a year. I wouldn’t call that super expensive. |
Anonymous
XC/track are a whole different animal than other sports. |
Anonymous
Club swimming runs $5k/year minimum |
Anonymous
Correct. My son is a long term travel baseball player and he knows 2 kids who started travel baseball the summer between 9th and 10th grades (with no previous baseball history) after trying out and making JV teams in high school and being bumped to the varsity squad when the coaches realized how naturally good they are. These kids have gone on to be recruited to D1 colleges in 11th and 12th grade respectively. They are super athletic kids who have a weird natural talent for baseball. They can just see the pitches (fantastic hand-eye coordination) whereas other travel baseball kids take batting lessons for years and years (a decade plus) and never get to the same level. It is quite possible to join sports later in childhood and excel in them if you have the raw talent. |
Anonymous
It is not, and if you referenced the same amount of expenses regarding your son playing the cello, no one would have a problem with it. That’s the whole point. People like to discount athletic skill as less important or even more laughably, as some sort of easy in. |
Anonymous
Most travel sports are a lot more expensive that. |
Anonymous
My uncle got kicked out of there back in the day :lol: |
Anonymous
Good for you. I was giving my piece in response to the PP’s reference of a bball player. |