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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][mastodon][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]well that makes 3 Princeton sports recruits.  2 for lacrosse and one for track.  [/quote]

[b]I think it is unfair to act like sports playing a part in admissions is somehow unfair[/b].  It takes a great deal of time and effort to be a top athlete. It seems like DCUMs are very comfortable with let's say a top violinist getting an edge vs a top basketball player.  (both of those randomly picked)[/quote]

It is unfair.

Club/travel sports are extremely expensive to take part in & require significant parent involvement. A kid may be a talented young athlete (including a high school basketball player), but won’t be recruited unless they happen to have parents with the time and money to put them in club sports. Money isn’t sufficient to get recruited, but it is definitely necessary.

Go look at some rosters of sports in the Ivy/NESCAC/UAA/Centennial/Patriotic League conferences. They’re filled with UMC white kids who went to private school & public schools in very wealthy areas, especially if we’re talking about women’s sports. [/quote]

The same could be argued about the violinist, cellist, or even a straight a student who does well on SATs because of prep courses in tutors. But for some reason people are particularly upset about sports.[/quote]

NP. My “elite” basketball player played 2 AAU seasons at $600 a pop. Now that it’s high school level it’s really just one long AAU Spring/Summer at $800 a pop. Only 1-2 out of town tournaments at about $300/each in expenses. Next year, he will play EYBL so expenses will go down significantly. So maybe $1500 a year. I wouldn’t call that super expensive.[/quote]

Correct.  My son is a long term travel baseball player and he knows 2 kids who started travel baseball the summer between 9th and 10th grades (with no previous baseball history) after trying out and making JV teams in high school and being bumped to the varsity squad when the coaches realized how naturally good they are. 
These kids have gone on to be recruited to D1 colleges in 11th and 12th grade respectively.

They are super athletic kids who have a weird natural talent for baseball.  They can just see the pitches (fantastic hand-eye coordination) whereas other travel baseball kids take batting lessons for years and years (a decade plus) and never get to the same level.

It is quite possible to join sports later in childhood and excel in them if you have the raw talent.  [/quote]

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