Asians are NOT the model minority: the Affirmative Action Chess Game

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No, that is not true that it is the simplest explanation. The simplest explanation is the one they give, which is easily understood and verified. That they are seeking representative balance within races so they can build the class they want.

Where have they said they are seeking this balance? I'm pretty sure they state that they are not engaged in quotas.

The Supreme Court was very skeptical of this wink-wink quota system 20 years ago, and they let it stand while saying they expected it to be gone in 25 years.
The colleges spend the intervening decades coming up with ways to implement quotas while pretending to listen to the court's dictates.

You know how I know you have never bothered to even speak with a single college admissions officer on this topic?

Or never read any books on the subject, like "The Shape of The River"?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it considered a hardship that most Asian kids don't get to see many teachers, class fellows, sports coaches, police, people in power on national news etc who look like them?

? Asians see plenty of people who look like them in class. Most Asians live in big cities with a decent size Asian population. The rest, I agree, but you know the progressives won't care about that because Asian Americans as a whole are doing well, hence the "model minority". Yes, I know... there are many Asian Americans that aren't doing well, but the white progressive liberal establishment likes to ignore that fact.

that might be true, but we also know what the white right-wing, Trumpists think of us and that's markedly worse.

I think Asian-Americans are great! My college roommate in California was Japanese-American, my best buddy here in NoVA is Chinese-American. My buddy here, by the way, thinks Asians are getting screwed by the elite schools, which I agree with, and he's concerned about the impact on his kids when they apply to college.

Signed,

A white right-wing, Trumpist

how can an overrepresented group be discriminated against. Kinda like black men saying not enough black men in the NBA

It is underrepresented compared to the number who should be there based on academic merit (and yes, extracurriculars too). If you don't get this, you're too dumb to be in this conversation.

To use your NBA analogy, right now the NBA is 73% black and 17% white. But let's say the NBA started recruiting more whites, Hispanics, and Asians - to increase diversity! - until the NBA was 50% black. With a 50% black NBA, blacks are still overrepresented relative to their proportion of the population. So by your logic they should be happy. But it should be obvious that the blacks, in that case, were discriminated against and underrepresented relative to their actual merit.

DP: The entire problem with people in this analysis is this phrase: "who should be there based on academic merit (and yes, extracurriculars too)." This is a figment of your imagination. You dont' get to decide this. This is not the entirety of any school's actual admissions standard. It never has been.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yuck. Hate all
Of it. Sick of watching non Asian, non Caucasians hired and promoted hand over fist in my financial regulatory agency. Different standards for them.

They bring something to the table that you cannot bring, so among the many qualification considered, they have qualifications you lack.

[Anonymous]

BS. They bring their whining and yelling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yuck. Hate all
Of it. Sick of watching non Asian, non Caucasians hired and promoted hand over fist in my financial regulatory agency. Different standards for them.

Worry about yourself. Karma is coming for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yuck. Hate all
Of it. Sick of watching non Asian, non Caucasians hired and promoted hand over fist in my financial regulatory agency. Different standards for them.

They bring something to the table that you cannot bring, so among the many qualification considered, they have qualifications you lack.

dp.. curious.. like what?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Diversity has huge value, whole society benefits from it. As a side effect some individuals benefit greatly and others experience disadvantage but overall everyone benefits.

That's a fine opinion, and I share it. But the important point is that it is subjective, and colleges should be allowed to decide if they feel this is necessary achieve their mission, as long as they do not break the law.

sure, subjective measures are not inherently wrong, however, how can you judge someone's likeability without ever having met them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yuck. Hate all
Of it. Sick of watching non Asian, non Caucasians hired and promoted hand over fist in my financial regulatory agency. Different standards for them.

They bring something to the table that you cannot bring, so among the many qualification considered, they have qualifications you lack.

dp.. curious.. like what?

based on the post, probably not being an ass*ole is top of the list.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yuck. Hate all
Of it. Sick of watching non Asian, non Caucasians hired and promoted hand over fist in my financial regulatory agency. Different standards for them.

They bring something to the table that you cannot bring, so among the many qualification considered, they have qualifications you lack.

dp.. curious.. like what?

based on the post, probably not being an ass*ole is top of the list.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yuck. Hate all
Of it. Sick of watching non Asian, non Caucasians hired and promoted hand over fist in my financial regulatory agency. Different standards for them.

They bring something to the table that you cannot bring, so among the many qualification considered, they have qualifications you lack.

dp.. curious.. like what?

based on the post, probably not being an ass*ole is top of the list.

not sure that you can tell how much of an a$$hole a person is by a few interviews.

I've worked with all kinds of a$$holes. They put on a good show in the interviews, but then once they get comfortable in a position, they turn into a raging a$$wipe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Diversity has huge value, whole society benefits from it. As a side effect some individuals benefit greatly and others experience disadvantage but overall everyone benefits.

That's a fine opinion, and I share it. But the important point is that it is subjective, and colleges should be allowed to decide if they feel this is necessary achieve their mission, as long as they do not break the law.

sure, subjective measures are not inherently wrong, however, how can you judge someone's likeability without ever having met them?

Why did you move the goalposts from diversity to likability? Why don't you read the posts you are responding to and do a better job at not mis-representing them?

[Anonymous]

I would like to see more Asians in NBA and NFL.
How do we achive that. Same thing applies to academic institutions.

[Anonymous]

Doesn't matter. Free handouts for URM coming to an end next year. Amen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yuck. Hate all
Of it. Sick of watching non Asian, non Caucasians hired and promoted hand over fist in my financial regulatory agency. Different standards for them.

They bring something to the table that you cannot bring, so among the many qualification considered, they have qualifications you lack.

dp.. curious.. like what?

based on the post, probably not being an ass*ole is top of the list.

not sure that you can tell how much of an a$$hole a person is by a few interviews.

I've worked with all kinds of a$$holes. They put on a good show in the interviews, but then once they get comfortable in a position, they turn into a raging a$$wipe.

Me too! Oh boy have I worked with assh&les. All races. Present manager included.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't matter. Free handouts for URM coming to an end next year. Amen.

And sadly, I am a DEM sick of this leftist takeover. Trying hard to understand and not to swing GOP Uuugh.