Asians are NOT the model minority: the Affirmative Action Chess Game

[Anonymous]

Article which counters the Asians as the " model minority" myth.

"More than two in three Asian Americans – 69% – support affirmative action, and that’s been the case for nearly a decade. Within that demographic, support is highest among Korean Americans and Asian Indian Americans (at least 80%) and lowest among Chinese Americans, 59% of whom say they favor such policies.

Despite that polling data and widespread Asian American activism in support of affirmative action, Students for Fair Admissions – whose conservative donors have engaged in a larger crusade targeting issues including voting rights – have sought to paint a different picture. They are, critics say, using Asian Americans as a wedge to incite infighting among communities of color."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/11/06/affirmative-action-case-harvard-admissions-asian-americans/10599572002/

In the Affirmative Action cases before the Supreme Court, the conservative Students For Fair Admissions (SFFA) - led by Ed Blum - is using the Asian Americans to keep URMs marginalized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Article which counters the Asians as the " model minority" myth.

"More than two in three Asian Americans – 69% – support affirmative action, and that’s been the case for nearly a decade. Within that demographic, support is highest among Korean Americans and Asian Indian Americans (at least 80%) and lowest among Chinese Americans, 59% of whom say they favor such policies.

Despite that polling data and widespread Asian American activism in support of affirmative action, Students for Fair Admissions – whose conservative donors have engaged in a larger crusade targeting issues including voting rights – have sought to paint a different picture. They are, critics say, using Asian Americans as a wedge to incite infighting among communities of color."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/11/06/affirmative-action-case-harvard-admissions-asian-americans/10599572002/

In the Affirmative Action cases before the Supreme Court, the conservative Students For Fair Admissions (SFFA) - led by Ed Blum - is using the Asian Americans to keep URMs marginalized.

50% of Asian Americans students start in community college?

90% of Asian Americans in CA start in community college or for profit colleges?

Hmm.

Far cry from the focus on elite colleges like Harvard.

[Anonymous]

They are when it comes to crime. Asians commit crime at the lowest rate of all races, including whites. By far.

[Anonymous]

LOL if you think it's a myth that Asians are smart and hard-working.

I mean... the article includes abundant evidence that they are smart and hard-working.

What a dumb article.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Article which counters the Asians as the " model minority" myth.

"More than two in three Asian Americans – 69% – support affirmative action, and that’s been the case for nearly a decade. Within that demographic, support is highest among Korean Americans and Asian Indian Americans (at least 80%) and lowest among Chinese Americans, 59% of whom say they favor such policies.

Despite that polling data and widespread Asian American activism in support of affirmative action, Students for Fair Admissions – whose conservative donors have engaged in a larger crusade targeting issues including voting rights – have sought to paint a different picture. They are, critics say, using Asian Americans as a wedge to incite infighting among communities of color."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/11/06/affirmative-action-case-harvard-admissions-asian-americans/10599572002/

In the Affirmative Action cases before the Supreme Court, the conservative Students For Fair Admissions (SFFA) - led by Ed Blum - is using the Asian Americans to keep URMs marginalized.

That sounds odd to me. I don't know any Asian who supports AA, myself included.

[Anonymous]

So is it trying to say that you only need affirmative action if your minority group is not considered smart and hard working?

[Anonymous]

Yeah I’m raising an eyebrow at these numbers. 90% of AA begin in community college? I’d like to see where that number comes from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Article which counters the Asians as the " model minority" myth.

"More than two in three Asian Americans – 69% – support affirmative action, and that’s been the case for nearly a decade. Within that demographic, support is highest among Korean Americans and Asian Indian Americans (at least 80%) and lowest among Chinese Americans, 59% of whom say they favor such policies.

Despite that polling data and widespread Asian American activism in support of affirmative action, Students for Fair Admissions – whose conservative donors have engaged in a larger crusade targeting issues including voting rights – have sought to paint a different picture. They are, critics say, using Asian Americans as a wedge to incite infighting among communities of color."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/11/06/affirmative-action-case-harvard-admissions-asian-americans/10599572002/

In the Affirmative Action cases before the Supreme Court, the conservative Students For Fair Admissions (SFFA) - led by Ed Blum - is using the Asian Americans to keep URMs marginalized.

That sounds odd to me. I don't know any Asian who supports AA, myself included.

I am Korean American and i do not know any Korean American supporting AA. In Fact, many are angry about it.

[Anonymous]

We’re Indian and don’t support affirmative action.

Most Californians in general don’t support it that’s why we rejected the Proposition a few years ago (I live in CA)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Article which counters the Asians as the " model minority" myth.

"More than two in three Asian Americans – 69% – support affirmative action, and that’s been the case for nearly a decade. Within that demographic, support is highest among Korean Americans and Asian Indian Americans (at least 80%) and lowest among Chinese Americans, 59% of whom say they favor such policies.

Despite that polling data and widespread Asian American activism in support of affirmative action, Students for Fair Admissions – whose conservative donors have engaged in a larger crusade targeting issues including voting rights – have sought to paint a different picture. They are, critics say, using Asian Americans as a wedge to incite infighting among communities of color."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/11/06/affirmative-action-case-harvard-admissions-asian-americans/10599572002/

In the Affirmative Action cases before the Supreme Court, the conservative Students For Fair Admissions (SFFA) - led by Ed Blum - is using the Asian Americans to keep URMs marginalized.

That sounds odd to me. I don't know any Asian who supports AA, myself included.

I am Korean American and i do not know any Korean American supporting AA. In Fact, many are angry about it.

Over 30 AAPI groups filed amicus brief(s) with Harvard and UNC

"The Advancing Justice affiliation with pro bono counsel, Ballard Spahr,submitted a separate amicus brief joined by 37 Asian American and Pacific Islander (AAPI) civil rights groups, advocacy organizations, professionals, and student organizations in support of race-conscious admissions programs that improve equal access to educational opportunities for all."

"For centuries, communities of color, including Asian Americans, have struggled against racial discrimination and faced systemic barriers to education, employment, and immigration, among other challenges,” said John C. Yang, President and Executive Director of Advancing Justice – AAJC. “Race, ethnicity, and our lived experiences are integral parts of our personal story and collective history. Holistic admissions ensures all students have the opportunity to share their whole story in addition to their academic achievements.”

https://www.advancingjustice-aajc.org/press-release/asian-american-civil-rights-groups-file-amicus-briefs-support-holistic-admissions


Thankfully, the Asian American community is not a monolith.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Article which counters the Asians as the " model minority" myth.

"More than two in three Asian Americans – 69% – support affirmative action, and that’s been the case for nearly a decade. Within that demographic, support is highest among Korean Americans and Asian Indian Americans (at least 80%) and lowest among Chinese Americans, 59% of whom say they favor such policies.

Despite that polling data and widespread Asian American activism in support of affirmative action, Students for Fair Admissions – whose conservative donors have engaged in a larger crusade targeting issues including voting rights – have sought to paint a different picture. They are, critics say, using Asian Americans as a wedge to incite infighting among communities of color."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/11/06/affirmative-action-case-harvard-admissions-asian-americans/10599572002/

In the Affirmative Action cases before the Supreme Court, the conservative Students For Fair Admissions (SFFA) - led by Ed Blum - is using the Asian Americans to keep URMs marginalized.

50% of Asian Americans students start in community college?

90% of Asian Americans in CA start in community college or for profit colleges?

Hmm.

Far cry from the focus on elite colleges like Harvard.

You aren’t quoting correctly. 90% don’t start in CC OR for profit. Here is the actual quote-
“. In California, home to the country’s largest AAPI population and a 26-year ban on affirmative action, the vast majority of Asian Americans – 90% – begin college in one of California’s public community colleges or four-year universities”.

Asians are vastly over represented in most of the UC’s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Article which counters the Asians as the " model minority" myth.

"More than two in three Asian Americans – 69% – support affirmative action, and that’s been the case for nearly a decade. Within that demographic, support is highest among Korean Americans and Asian Indian Americans (at least 80%) and lowest among Chinese Americans, 59% of whom say they favor such policies.

Despite that polling data and widespread Asian American activism in support of affirmative action, Students for Fair Admissions – whose conservative donors have engaged in a larger crusade targeting issues including voting rights – have sought to paint a different picture. They are, critics say, using Asian Americans as a wedge to incite infighting among communities of color."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/11/06/affirmative-action-case-harvard-admissions-asian-americans/10599572002/

In the Affirmative Action cases before the Supreme Court, the conservative Students For Fair Admissions (SFFA) - led by Ed Blum - is using the Asian Americans to keep URMs marginalized.

That sounds odd to me. I don't know any Asian who supports AA, myself included.

I am Korean American and i do not know any Korean American supporting AA. In Fact, many are angry about it.

Over 30 AAPI groups filed amicus brief(s) with Harvard and UNC

"The Advancing Justice affiliation with pro bono counsel, Ballard Spahr,submitted a separate amicus brief joined by 37 Asian American and Pacific Islander (AAPI) civil rights groups, advocacy organizations, professionals, and student organizations in support of race-conscious admissions programs that improve equal access to educational opportunities for all."

"For centuries, communities of color, including Asian Americans, have struggled against racial discrimination and faced systemic barriers to education, employment, and immigration, among other challenges,” said John C. Yang, President and Executive Director of Advancing Justice – AAJC. “Race, ethnicity, and our lived experiences are integral parts of our personal story and collective history. Holistic admissions ensures all students have the opportunity to share their whole story in addition to their academic achievements.”

https://www.advancingjustice-aajc.org/press-release/asian-american-civil-rights-groups-file-amicus-briefs-support-holistic-admissions


Thankfully, the Asian American community is not a monolith.

Don’t have link because of paywall but recent Washington Post survey (last week) found well over 60% of Asians oppose affirmative action in college admissions…so ignore this OP and the thread, generally. It is also extremely patronizing and, well, racist, to suggest that Asian Americans are “stooges” who are being duped by the conservative founder of the litigation. They are not being duped; they know exactly what is going on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Article which counters the Asians as the " model minority" myth.

"More than two in three Asian Americans – 69% – support affirmative action, and that’s been the case for nearly a decade. Within that demographic, support is highest among Korean Americans and Asian Indian Americans (at least 80%) and lowest among Chinese Americans, 59% of whom say they favor such policies.

Despite that polling data and widespread Asian American activism in support of affirmative action, Students for Fair Admissions – whose conservative donors have engaged in a larger crusade targeting issues including voting rights – have sought to paint a different picture. They are, critics say, using Asian Americans as a wedge to incite infighting among communities of color."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/11/06/affirmative-action-case-harvard-admissions-asian-americans/10599572002/

In the Affirmative Action cases before the Supreme Court, the conservative Students For Fair Admissions (SFFA) - led by Ed Blum - is using the Asian Americans to keep URMs marginalized.

50% of Asian Americans students start in community college?

90% of Asian Americans in CA start in community college or for profit colleges?

Hmm.

Far cry from the focus on elite colleges like Harvard.

You aren’t quoting correctly. 90% don’t start in CC OR for profit. Here is the actual quote-
“. In California, home to the country’s largest AAPI population and a 26-year ban on affirmative action, the vast majority of Asian Americans – 90% – begin college in one of California’s public community colleges or four-year universities”.

Asians are vastly over represented in most of the UC’s.

The Biggest irony is that people are blaming tests as racist and Asians are obsessed with test prepping.

Guess what, Californian schools like UCs and CalTech went test blind. Then Blacks are 6% 3% 2% at CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA

[Anonymous]

There is asian support for AA in surveys because they want to appear woke. When it's put for a vote like in california though which is as liberal as they get, it fails. Why do you think that is. A lot of asians support it because they've already gotten into a good college and succeeded and they don't care if others are discriminated against until their own kids are applying to schools.

[Anonymous]

Asian Americans, like all others, are not a monolith, and have differing views.

Saying you support affirmative action can mean a variety of things and not that you necessarily support a specific example of how it's being implemented.