Asians are NOT the model minority: the Affirmative Action Chess Game

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is asian support for AA in surveys because they want to appear woke. When it's put for a vote like in california though which is as liberal as they get, it fails. Why do you think that is. A lot of asians support it because they've already gotten into a good college and succeeded and they don't care if others are discriminated against until their own kids are applying to schools.

+1 for supporting it publicly bc you are ostracized by other liberals otherwise

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is asian support for AA in surveys because they want to appear woke. When it's put for a vote like in california though which is as liberal as they get, it fails. Why do you think that is. A lot of asians support it because they've already gotten into a good college and succeeded and they don't care if others are discriminated against until their own kids are applying to schools.

Yeah the article was basically Asians truckling to Democrats. Nauseating.

[Anonymous]

Echoing the other posters but I’m Asian American and all Asian Americans I know who support AA have already gone to college/med school and don’t have kids. And I’d say it’s more of a 60/40 split of against/for AA.

I agree the article is very insulting to Asian Americans, trying to paint us as having been tricked by conservatives. Many Asians, including immigrants, actually are proud and happy conservatives themselves.

[Anonymous]

The article confuses affirmative action with preference for first gen/low income families. The race-based selection is banned. Economic status is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Asian Americans, like all others, are not a monolith, and have differing views.

Saying you support affirmative action can mean a variety of things and not that you necessarily support a specific example of how it's being implemented.

+1

AA in this case is diversity on college campuses. People can be against AA but support diversity. Not necessarily mutually exclusive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Article which counters the Asians as the " model minority" myth.

"More than two in three Asian Americans – 69% – support affirmative action, and that’s been the case for nearly a decade. Within that demographic, support is highest among Korean Americans and Asian Indian Americans (at least 80%) and lowest among Chinese Americans, 59% of whom say they favor such policies.

Despite that polling data and widespread Asian American activism in support of affirmative action, Students for Fair Admissions – whose conservative donors have engaged in a larger crusade targeting issues including voting rights – have sought to paint a different picture. They are, critics say, using Asian Americans as a wedge to incite infighting among communities of color."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/11/06/affirmative-action-case-harvard-admissions-asian-americans/10599572002/

In the Affirmative Action cases before the Supreme Court, the conservative Students For Fair Admissions (SFFA) - led by Ed Blum - is using the Asian Americans to keep URMs marginalized.

That sounds odd to me. I don't know any Asian who supports AA, myself included.

I am Korean American and i do not know any Korean American supporting AA. In Fact, many are angry about it.

You're part of the 31%. That's ok. Just don't be in denial that there are a decent Asians who support AA. There was a strong contingent who were at the Supreme Court during the actual hearing.

What you you "angry" about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Article which counters the Asians as the " model minority" myth.

"More than two in three Asian Americans – 69% – support affirmative action, and that’s been the case for nearly a decade. Within that demographic, support is highest among Korean Americans and Asian Indian Americans (at least 80%) and lowest among Chinese Americans, 59% of whom say they favor such policies.

Despite that polling data and widespread Asian American activism in support of affirmative action, Students for Fair Admissions – whose conservative donors have engaged in a larger crusade targeting issues including voting rights – have sought to paint a different picture. They are, critics say, using Asian Americans as a wedge to incite infighting among communities of color."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/11/06/affirmative-action-case-harvard-admissions-asian-americans/10599572002/

In the Affirmative Action cases before the Supreme Court, the conservative Students For Fair Admissions (SFFA) - led by Ed Blum - is using the Asian Americans to keep URMs marginalized.

That sounds odd to me. I don't know any Asian who supports AA, myself included.

I am Korean American and i do not know any Korean American supporting AA. In Fact, many are angry about it.

You're part of the 31%. That's ok. Just don't be in denial that there are a decent Asians who support AA. There was a strong contingent who were at the Supreme Court during the actual hearing.

What you you "angry" about?

Another Korean here. I don’t know anybody either. I’d love to meet one to understand their perspective. I don’t see why anyone would support that. Maybe young kids who feel they “have to”??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Article which counters the Asians as the " model minority" myth.

"More than two in three Asian Americans – 69% – support affirmative action, and that’s been the case for nearly a decade. Within that demographic, support is highest among Korean Americans and Asian Indian Americans (at least 80%) and lowest among Chinese Americans, 59% of whom say they favor such policies.

Despite that polling data and widespread Asian American activism in support of affirmative action, Students for Fair Admissions – whose conservative donors have engaged in a larger crusade targeting issues including voting rights – have sought to paint a different picture. They are, critics say, using Asian Americans as a wedge to incite infighting among communities of color."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/11/06/affirmative-action-case-harvard-admissions-asian-americans/10599572002/

In the Affirmative Action cases before the Supreme Court, the conservative Students For Fair Admissions (SFFA) - led by Ed Blum - is using the Asian Americans to keep URMs marginalized.

That sounds odd to me. I don't know any Asian who supports AA, myself included.

I am Korean American and i do not know any Korean American supporting AA. In Fact, many are angry about it.

You're part of the 31%. That's ok. Just don't be in denial that there are a decent Asians who support AA. There was a strong contingent who were at the Supreme Court during the actual hearing.

What you you "angry" about?

Another Korean here. I don’t know anybody either. I’d love to meet one to understand their perspective. I don’t see why anyone would support that. Maybe young kids who feel they “have to”??

You don't support diversity on college campuses?

[Anonymous]

The smart play would be to publicly support aa knowing full well how this Court will rule (to be sure, it’ll be a narrow 5-4 vote that will not rely on constitutional grounds).

[Anonymous]

A study by Georgetown University found that with a test score-only admissions system, 21% of Asian American students would lose their seats at the nation’s most selective colleges.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/asian-led-student-groups-are-continuing-affirmative-action-fight-harva-rcna55071

Georgetown study:

https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/selectivebias/

Holistic admissions benefits Asians too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Article which counters the Asians as the " model minority" myth.

"More than two in three Asian Americans – 69% – support affirmative action, and that’s been the case for nearly a decade. Within that demographic, support is highest among Korean Americans and Asian Indian Americans (at least 80%) and lowest among Chinese Americans, 59% of whom say they favor such policies.

Despite that polling data and widespread Asian American activism in support of affirmative action, Students for Fair Admissions – whose conservative donors have engaged in a larger crusade targeting issues including voting rights – have sought to paint a different picture. They are, critics say, using Asian Americans as a wedge to incite infighting among communities of color."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/11/06/affirmative-action-case-harvard-admissions-asian-americans/10599572002/

In the Affirmative Action cases before the Supreme Court, the conservative Students For Fair Admissions (SFFA) - led by Ed Blum - is using the Asian Americans to keep URMs marginalized.

That sounds odd to me. I don't know any Asian who supports AA, myself included.

I am Korean American and i do not know any Korean American supporting AA. In Fact, many are angry about it.

You're part of the 31%. That's ok. Just don't be in denial that there are a decent Asians who support AA. There was a strong contingent who were at the Supreme Court during the actual hearing.

What you you "angry" about?

That just shows how clueless you are how Asians really feel. You must be white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Article which counters the Asians as the " model minority" myth.

"More than two in three Asian Americans – 69% – support affirmative action, and that’s been the case for nearly a decade. Within that demographic, support is highest among Korean Americans and Asian Indian Americans (at least 80%) and lowest among Chinese Americans, 59% of whom say they favor such policies.

Despite that polling data and widespread Asian American activism in support of affirmative action, Students for Fair Admissions – whose conservative donors have engaged in a larger crusade targeting issues including voting rights – have sought to paint a different picture. They are, critics say, using Asian Americans as a wedge to incite infighting among communities of color."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/11/06/affirmative-action-case-harvard-admissions-asian-americans/10599572002/

In the Affirmative Action cases before the Supreme Court, the conservative Students For Fair Admissions (SFFA) - led by Ed Blum - is using the Asian Americans to keep URMs marginalized.

That sounds odd to me. I don't know any Asian who supports AA, myself included.

I don't know about op's article, but I was listening to Asian students at unc on npr who supported the admissions process (including race ) and who also claimed that "Students for Fair Admissions " were not students but were a conservative political faction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Article which counters the Asians as the " model minority" myth.

"More than two in three Asian Americans – 69% – support affirmative action, and that’s been the case for nearly a decade. Within that demographic, support is highest among Korean Americans and Asian Indian Americans (at least 80%) and lowest among Chinese Americans, 59% of whom say they favor such policies.

Despite that polling data and widespread Asian American activism in support of affirmative action, Students for Fair Admissions – whose conservative donors have engaged in a larger crusade targeting issues including voting rights – have sought to paint a different picture. They are, critics say, using Asian Americans as a wedge to incite infighting among communities of color."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/11/06/affirmative-action-case-harvard-admissions-asian-americans/10599572002/

In the Affirmative Action cases before the Supreme Court, the conservative Students For Fair Admissions (SFFA) - led by Ed Blum - is using the Asian Americans to keep URMs marginalized.

That sounds odd to me. I don't know any Asian who supports AA, myself included.

I am Korean American and i do not know any Korean American supporting AA. In Fact, many are angry about it.

You're part of the 31%. That's ok. Just don't be in denial that there are a decent Asians who support AA. There was a strong contingent who were at the Supreme Court during the actual hearing.

What you you "angry" about?

That just shows how clueless you are how Asians really feel. You must be white.

Can't answer the question. Ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Echoing the other posters but I’m Asian American and all Asian Americans I know who support AA have already gone to college/med school and don’t have kids. And I’d say it’s more of a 60/40 split of against/for AA.

I agree the article is very insulting to Asian Americans, trying to paint us as having been tricked by conservatives. Many Asians, including immigrants, actually are proud and happy conservatives themselves.

It's not "insulting. " It's the truth.

Asians are being used by conservative groups in an "us versus them" ploy.

And if you REALLY look at the Harvard SCOTUS case, the alleged discrimination against Asians on personal ratings, while proven untrue, has nothing to do with affirmative action itself.

When affirmative action is banned next year, do personal ratings under holistic admissions get banned too? No. Because the personal ratings have nothing to do with race.

The SFFA is using apparent Asian " why aren't we getting into Harvard in higher percentages" grievance to ban race-conscious admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is asian support for AA in surveys because they want to appear woke. When it's put for a vote like in california though which is as liberal as they get, it fails. Why do you think that is. A lot of asians support it because they've already gotten into a good college and succeeded and they don't care if others are discriminated against until their own kids are applying to schools.

Yeah the article was basically Asians truckling to Democrats. Nauseating.

The Republicans and Donald " China Flu" Trump aren't Asian's friend.

Wake up.