House of the Dragon - Game of Thrones spinoff (SPOILERS)

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Anonymous wrote:Any child she has with Daemon would only be the heir if they give up any pretense of her first three being true born sons.

Or … if they die before that child. Do you think Dance of Dragons will be like a cotillion.

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I’m expecting the Hightower kids to kill at least one of Rhaenyra m/Daemon’s kids. They look ruthless. I really want to see Daemon do some terrible things to that family and Ser Crispness or whatever his name is.

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Anonymous wrote:So who will be the heir after Rhaenyra? She isn't going after Daemon hoping for a child to be heir, right?

She may be trying to hedge her bets.

She knows that she and her children are in danger, just like Allicent knows the same about hers. The current King was elected, and he chose his heir, so there's really nothing to stop Rhaenyra from making a deal or naming a son by Daemon as HER heir.

All I know is all these people are gonna be trying to kill each other soon enough.

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Anonymous wrote:** Spoilers for Ep 7 but not for any book stuff**


It wasn't clear to me if Daemon and Rhaeneyra were in on the "Laenor isn't actually dead but escaped to live his own life" twist.

Did Daemon kill that guard just as part of the plan to get the assassin/lover in the room with Laenor or was he helping secure a decoy body?
Did the assassin/lover go to Laenor, tell him the plan, and the two of them staged his death and escaped?

Rhaeneyra coldly killing (or thinking she did) her husband who just tried to recommit to being a good father make her a very different player than staging his death does.

This was my impression. I think Daemon and Rhaenyra were a part of the plot to fake the death. Daemon recruited Qarl and provided him with the decoy body.

This was also my impression. Why else have the dialog about how R&D thought L was a good man?

This, plus also the last scene between Rhaenyr and Leaner was so warm that for her to turn around and have him killed would really make her out to be a total villain. Like it is obvious in the scene that she has great affection for him, wishes that they could have made their marriage work better for both of them while also serving political needs, and wants him to be happy. And also in that scene he basically says he's willing to put aside what he actually wants and would make him happy in order to serve those political ends for her benefit and their kids. Having him killed after he offers to selflessly put her needs before his would be unbelievably cold hearted especially given how that episode unfolded.

PP here — Exactly. I will miss him. The actor is so attractive! The character however is frustrating — like even if you couldn’t really get it on in the bedroom, you could at least been around to defend the boys and put on a good show in public more often.

And could have gotten it on in the bedroom. Any trueborn child would have made this all much easier.

I took it as a fertility issue vice him not being able to perform with her. I felt it was implied in conversation by both of them that why had tried.

I assumed he was only able to perform 2-3 times which statistically isn’t going to be enough to get pregnant unless you’re lucky. Laenor has shown that he half-asses everything and can’t follow through — wouldn’t be surprised if he gave up when it didn’t work immediately.

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Anonymous wrote:** Spoilers for Ep 7 but not for any book stuff**


It wasn't clear to me if Daemon and Rhaeneyra were in on the "Laenor isn't actually dead but escaped to live his own life" twist.

Did Daemon kill that guard just as part of the plan to get the assassin/lover in the room with Laenor or was he helping secure a decoy body?
Did the assassin/lover go to Laenor, tell him the plan, and the two of them staged his death and escaped?

Rhaeneyra coldly killing (or thinking she did) her husband who just tried to recommit to being a good father make her a very different player than staging his death does.

Good call.

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Anonymous wrote:So who will be the heir after Rhaenyra? She isn't going after Daemon hoping for a child to be heir, right?

She may be trying to hedge her bets.

She knows that she and her children are in danger, just like Allicent knows the same about hers. The current King was elected, and he chose his heir, so there's really nothing to stop Rhaenyra from making a deal or naming a son by Daemon as HER heir.

All I know is all these people are gonna be trying to kill each other soon enough.

I started off really liking Alicent and now really really dislike her. Rhanerya's sons seem really kind, caring, and thoughtful. Alicent's sons seem psycho.

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Anonymous wrote:** Spoilers for Ep 7 but not for any book stuff**


It wasn't clear to me if Daemon and Rhaeneyra were in on the "Laenor isn't actually dead but escaped to live his own life" twist.

Did Daemon kill that guard just as part of the plan to get the assassin/lover in the room with Laenor or was he helping secure a decoy body?
Did the assassin/lover go to Laenor, tell him the plan, and the two of them staged his death and escaped?

Rhaeneyra coldly killing (or thinking she did) her husband who just tried to recommit to being a good father make her a very different player than staging his death does.

This was my impression. I think Daemon and Rhaenyra were a part of the plot to fake the death. Daemon recruited Qarl and provided him with the decoy body.

This was also my impression. Why else have the dialog about how R&D thought L was a good man?

This, plus also the last scene between Rhaenyr and Leaner was so warm that for her to turn around and have him killed would really make her out to be a total villain. Like it is obvious in the scene that she has great affection for him, wishes that they could have made their marriage work better for both of them while also serving political needs, and wants him to be happy. And also in that scene he basically says he's willing to put aside what he actually wants and would make him happy in order to serve those political ends for her benefit and their kids. Having him killed after he offers to selflessly put her needs before his would be unbelievably cold hearted especially given how that episode unfolded.

PP here — Exactly. I will miss him. The actor is so attractive! The character however is frustrating — like even if you couldn’t really get it on in the bedroom, you could at least been around to defend the boys and put on a good show in public more often.

And could have gotten it on in the bedroom. Any trueborn child would have made this all much easier.

I took it as a fertility issue vice him not being able to perform with her. I felt it was implied in conversation by both of them that why had tried.

Yes in this most recent episode they discussed that they tried several times to no avail.

I took it as they tried but he couldn’t get excited enough to finish the deed. 🤷‍♀️ I just hope he comes back and swoops in on his dragon on some heroic attempt to save his family though sadly I think it really was the last we hear of him.

Ps Is it possible for a dragon rider to leave their dragon behind? Or does it find you?

**Not a spoiler but just some related dragon lore from the books**

Dragons can only have one rider. They cannot have another rider while their previous rider lives. So either Laenor's dragon follows him East, Laenor returns at some point takes back up dragon riding, Laenor is killed at some point and his dragon is up for grabs, or his dragon is rider-less for the remainder of the series. Dragons also don't have to have a rider. So his dragon sticking around and not accepting a new rider would not be seen as an obvious "wait is Laenor not dead" giveaway.

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Anonymous wrote:So who will be the heir after Rhaenyra? She isn't going after Daemon hoping for a child to be heir, right?

She may be trying to hedge her bets.

She knows that she and her children are in danger, just like Allicent knows the same about hers. The current King was elected, and he chose his heir, so there's really nothing to stop Rhaenyra from making a deal or naming a son by Daemon as HER heir.

All I know is all these people are gonna be trying to kill each other soon enough.

I started off really liking Alicent and now really really dislike her. Rhanerya's sons seem really kind, caring, and thoughtful. Alicent's sons seem psycho.

I feel like Alicent's switch to raging witch with a B happened really quickly and it's kind of jarring and makes her seem crazy. She obviously needed allies and seized on two weirdos - Cristin and that other weaselly guy. But the way those relationships developed is odd.

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Anonymous wrote:So who will be the heir after Rhaenyra? She isn't going after Daemon hoping for a child to be heir, right?

She may be trying to hedge her bets.

She knows that she and her children are in danger, just like Allicent knows the same about hers. The current King was elected, and he chose his heir, so there's really nothing to stop Rhaenyra from making a deal or naming a son by Daemon as HER heir.

All I know is all these people are gonna be trying to kill each other soon enough.

I started off really liking Alicent and now really really dislike her. Rhanerya's sons seem really kind, caring, and thoughtful. Alicent's sons seem psycho.

I feel like Alicent's switch to raging witch with a B happened really quickly and it's kind of jarring and makes her seem crazy. She obviously needed allies and seized on two weirdos - Cristin and that other weaselly guy. But the way those relationships developed is odd.

That guy reminds of the SNL actor who plays Don Jr.

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Anonymous wrote:So who will be the heir after Rhaenyra? She isn't going after Daemon hoping for a child to be heir, right?

She may be trying to hedge her bets.

She knows that she and her children are in danger, just like Allicent knows the same about hers. The current King was elected, and he chose his heir, so there's really nothing to stop Rhaenyra from making a deal or naming a son by Daemon as HER heir.

All I know is all these people are gonna be trying to kill each other soon enough.

I started off really liking Alicent and now really really dislike her. Rhanerya's sons seem really kind, caring, and thoughtful. Alicent's sons seem psycho.

+1. Her sons are psycho and her daughter has issues too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So who will be the heir after Rhaenyra? She isn't going after Daemon hoping for a child to be heir, right?

She may be trying to hedge her bets.

She knows that she and her children are in danger, just like Allicent knows the same about hers. The current King was elected, and he chose his heir, so there's really nothing to stop Rhaenyra from making a deal or naming a son by Daemon as HER heir.

All I know is all these people are gonna be trying to kill each other soon enough.

LOL...this could summarize the vast majority of the plot of Game of Thrones

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Alicent is obnoxious, as are her whiny pair of sidekicks. I preferred Cersei!

Speaking of which, I wish Jaime was in this show!

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Alicent is the source of all rot in the family.

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Anonymous wrote:Alicent is obnoxious, as are her whiny pair of sidekicks. I preferred Cersei!

Speaking of which, I wish Jaime was in this show!

Cersei was a horrible person but also witty and interesting. Alicent is completely charmless.

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Anonymous wrote:Alicent is obnoxious, as are her whiny pair of sidekicks. I preferred Cersei!

Speaking of which, I wish Jaime was in this show!

I wish anyone with any semblance of wit was in this show. So poorly written, such unlikable characters.