Will Manchin and Sinema crack?

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By holding the line on excessive spending and opposing repeal of the filibuster, Sinema has spent some of her political capital on the Left to win over a critical mass of independents, as well as generate goodwill from Republicans. A newly released poll conducted by OH Predictive Insights, conducted from Sept. 7-12, shows how unique her political coalition of support is in these tribal times. Her net favorability is plus-7 (46 percent favorable, 39 percent unfavorable) in a state that President Biden carried by a single point. While just 56 percent of Democrats view her favorably, she holds an above-water (plus-6) rating with independents and unusually high 40 percent favorability rating among Republicans.

All told, her overall favorability rating is a notch higher than newly elected Sen. Mark Kelly. He polls between 43 and 44 percent against all Republicans in next year’s Senate race. His net favorability rating is plus-4, with 47 percent viewing him favorably and 43 percent viewing him unfavorably.

Angry progressive pundits are convinced that Sinema’s independent positioning will doom her in a Democratic primary. That is a total misread of her political situation.


Yep. She's going to win re-election in 2024. Whether she runs as an Independent or a Democrat remains to be seen but she has substantial support among the Republicans, just like McCain did with the Democrats.

From 1987 - 2018 he represented Arizona. Winning election after election. In that time he had 3 'partner' Senators who couldn't keep or didn't want to stay in their seats. And in that time since - 3 Senators have sat in McCain's seat - with Mark Kelly being the latest.

If Sinema can be half as long-lived, she'll be doing good.


Lol, she needs support among independents. Arizona is about 1/3 each. Her "popularity" has only increased among republicans. It has decreased among the other 2/3. It's not working because her electoral analysis is about as deep and well thought out as her reconcilliation bill position


Did you read the PPs stats?

While just 56 percent of Democrats view her favorably, she holds an above-water (plus-6) rating with independents and unusually high 40 percent favorability rating among Republicans.

Seems she has high ratings with Republicans, more positive than negative ratings with Democrats, and is good with independents as well. She seems to be just fine and better placed than anyone who would challenge her.


Dig deeper. Support among independents is dropping, it's just not negative yet, and the republican support growth is among the subset that won't vote for her no matter what. It's all superficial.


Like Democrats wouldn't vote for McCain? How else did he get 60% of the vote total in AZ? It's a special state. Party is important and principles for the Senators even more so.
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By holding the line on excessive spending and opposing repeal of the filibuster, Sinema has spent some of her political capital on the Left to win over a critical mass of independents, as well as generate goodwill from Republicans. A newly released poll conducted by OH Predictive Insights, conducted from Sept. 7-12, shows how unique her political coalition of support is in these tribal times. Her net favorability is plus-7 (46 percent favorable, 39 percent unfavorable) in a state that President Biden carried by a single point. While just 56 percent of Democrats view her favorably, she holds an above-water (plus-6) rating with independents and unusually high 40 percent favorability rating among Republicans.

All told, her overall favorability rating is a notch higher than newly elected Sen. Mark Kelly. He polls between 43 and 44 percent against all Republicans in next year’s Senate race. His net favorability rating is plus-4, with 47 percent viewing him favorably and 43 percent viewing him unfavorably.

Angry progressive pundits are convinced that Sinema’s independent positioning will doom her in a Democratic primary. That is a total misread of her political situation.


Yep. She's going to win re-election in 2024. Whether she runs as an Independent or a Democrat remains to be seen but she has substantial support among the Republicans, just like McCain did with the Democrats.

From 1987 - 2018 he represented Arizona. Winning election after election. In that time he had 3 'partner' Senators who couldn't keep or didn't want to stay in their seats. And in that time since - 3 Senators have sat in McCain's seat - with Mark Kelly being the latest.

If Sinema can be half as long-lived, she'll be doing good.


Lol, she needs support among independents. Arizona is about 1/3 each. Her "popularity" has only increased among republicans. It has decreased among the other 2/3. It's not working because her electoral analysis is about as deep and well thought out as her reconcilliation bill position


Did you read the PPs stats?

While just 56 percent of Democrats view her favorably, she holds an above-water (plus-6) rating with independents and unusually high 40 percent favorability rating among Republicans.

Seems she has high ratings with Republicans, more positive than negative ratings with Democrats, and is good with independents as well. She seems to be just fine and better placed than anyone who would challenge her.


Dig deeper. Support among independents is dropping, it's just not negative yet, and the republican support growth is among the subset that won't vote for her no matter what. It's all superficial.


Like Democrats wouldn't vote for McCain? How else did he get 60% of the vote total in AZ? It's a special state. Party is important and principles for the Senators even more so.

I just cannot figure out how you see “principled” in a woman who lied to get into office. The people who voted for her are rightly pissed.
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She has made $750,000 since she took office from corporate donations and PACs - the very same interests that support many GOP causes. I am not sure how that is a win in the perception column.
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By holding the line on excessive spending and opposing repeal of the filibuster, Sinema has spent some of her political capital on the Left to win over a critical mass of independents, as well as generate goodwill from Republicans. A newly released poll conducted by OH Predictive Insights, conducted from Sept. 7-12, shows how unique her political coalition of support is in these tribal times. Her net favorability is plus-7 (46 percent favorable, 39 percent unfavorable) in a state that President Biden carried by a single point. While just 56 percent of Democrats view her favorably, she holds an above-water (plus-6) rating with independents and unusually high 40 percent favorability rating among Republicans.

All told, her overall favorability rating is a notch higher than newly elected Sen. Mark Kelly. He polls between 43 and 44 percent against all Republicans in next year’s Senate race. His net favorability rating is plus-4, with 47 percent viewing him favorably and 43 percent viewing him unfavorably.

Angry progressive pundits are convinced that Sinema’s independent positioning will doom her in a Democratic primary. That is a total misread of her political situation.


Yep. She's going to win re-election in 2024. Whether she runs as an Independent or a Democrat remains to be seen but she has substantial support among the Republicans, just like McCain did with the Democrats.

From 1987 - 2018 he represented Arizona. Winning election after election. In that time he had 3 'partner' Senators who couldn't keep or didn't want to stay in their seats. And in that time since - 3 Senators have sat in McCain's seat - with Mark Kelly being the latest.

If Sinema can be half as long-lived, she'll be doing good.


Lol, she needs support among independents. Arizona is about 1/3 each. Her "popularity" has only increased among republicans. It has decreased among the other 2/3. It's not working because her electoral analysis is about as deep and well thought out as her reconcilliation bill position


Did you read the PPs stats?

While just 56 percent of Democrats view her favorably, she holds an above-water (plus-6) rating with independents and unusually high 40 percent favorability rating among Republicans.

Seems she has high ratings with Republicans, more positive than negative ratings with Democrats, and is good with independents as well. She seems to be just fine and better placed than anyone who would challenge her.


Dig deeper. Support among independents is dropping, it's just not negative yet, and the republican support growth is among the subset that won't vote for her no matter what. It's all superficial.


Like Democrats wouldn't vote for McCain? How else did he get 60% of the vote total in AZ? It's a special state. Party is important and principles for the Senators even more so.


It's the subgroup of Republicans that are "supporting" her that wont. The Gosar Constituency.
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Anonymous wrote:She has made $750,000 since she took office from corporate donations and PACs - the very same interests that support many GOP causes. I am not sure how that is a win in the perception column.


You make it sound like this is personal income to her. Don't pretty much all senators, including all the democratic senators, raise hundreds of thousands (millions?) from corporate donors? and PAC or whatever, which I've never really understood.
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When asked today about Sinaema getting harassed in a ladies room, Biden actually laughed and said “ happens to everyone.”

Stay classy...
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Anonymous wrote:When asked today about Sinaema getting harassed in a ladies room, Biden actually laughed and said “ happens to everyone.”

Stay classy...

He also said "it's not appropriate" - is there a reason you are hiding that part?
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Anonymous wrote:She has made $750,000 since she took office from corporate donations and PACs - the very same interests that support many GOP causes. I am not sure how that is a win in the perception column.

Do you have a source for that? I’ve seen this all over but also that it’s bunk.
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Anonymous wrote:When asked today about Sinaema getting harassed in a ladies room, Biden actually laughed and said “ happens to everyone.”

Stay classy...


+1
Amazing the utter lack of boundaries these protesters have. Disgusting.




https://www.thedailybeast.com/senator-kyrsten-sinema-locks-herself-in-arizona-state-university-bathroom-to-avoid-young-immigrant-activists
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Anonymous wrote:When asked today about Sinaema getting harassed in a ladies room, Biden actually laughed and said “ happens to everyone.”

Stay classy...

He also said "it's not appropriate" - is there a reason you are hiding that part?


He also said, "It's part of the process."

I would like to know what "process" crap like this is part of.
Biden's response was pathetic, as is most of everything he has said and done.
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Anonymous wrote:When asked today about Sinaema getting harassed in a ladies room, Biden actually laughed and said “ happens to everyone.”

Stay classy...


+1
Amazing the utter lack of boundaries these protesters have. Disgusting.




https://www.thedailybeast.com/senator-kyrsten-sinema-locks-herself-in-arizona-state-university-bathroom-to-avoid-young-immigrant-activists

Sinema needs to look at this positively. If harassing her in the bathroom is the best the progressives have, she’s got them beat.
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Apparently it's illegal to to record someone in a bathroom in AZ - as it should be. Hopefully they prosecute those people.
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Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous. Sinema show remarkable restraint.



JFC! That was insane. What scum.


She could have gone to the funeral if she wanted to. She just might not have been able to come back in. And that’s as it should be.


Exactly. This is an undocumented immigrant that we don’t need in our country. If she has not learned that following someone into a bathroom is inappropriate and likely illegal, she can leave and do this kind of crap in her own country.


Who are we? We need the people who grew up here and contributing to our society. You may have a different opinion based on the color of their skin, but do not include me in that "we". This is her country too - she does not have paper yet, but for all practical purposes she has no other country.


In addition, why do constituent have to follow Sinema to bathroom if she was available to answer to them otherwise...because she is hiding from them and attending funraisers only!


"We" are citizens. She has absolutely no right to citizenship. None. She, herself, said that she could not go "back" for her grandfather's funeral, so we know she has family wherever "back" is.
I don't care what color her skin is. I care that she wants a member of Congress to fight for citizenship for her but she cannot see fit to NOT break the law. Videotaping others in a bathroom without permission is a crime. And, then she had the audacity to brag about it on social media.
Constituents can make an appointment with her like, you know.... normal people. And, BTW - Sinema said in a statement the she has previously met with these activists many times, so you can stop the fake concern. They wanted a viral moment. They got it. I wish Sinema and the students she taped would press charges.

She is not worthy of citizenship.
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Anonymous wrote:When asked today about Sinaema getting harassed in a ladies room, Biden actually laughed and said “ happens to everyone.”

Stay classy...


+1
Amazing the utter lack of boundaries these protesters have. Disgusting.




https://www.thedailybeast.com/senator-kyrsten-sinema-locks-herself-in-arizona-state-university-bathroom-to-avoid-young-immigrant-activists


This is how we get Sinema (R) and Manchin (R).
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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps, she would get a pathway to citizenship if the border would be under control.

How can we give all undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship when they are pouring over the border in the current numbers? Biden's policies have discouraged control of the border and the results also bring us more human trafficking and drug smuggling in other areas. That is a fact.

The American people want immigration reform. But, first they want a secure border. How many times has this been ignored?


I’m confused. When does the GOP actually want to work with the Democrats on any issue facing America? If you’ll come back to the actual topic, Manchin and Sinema are obstructing a bill that’s ridiculously popular with their constituents. The GOP is, once again, blocking it in its entirety, too. So we’re supposed to believe that the GOP will work with the Democrats on the border? Since when? You guys LOVE complaining about the border.
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