Will Manchin and Sinema crack?

[Anonymous]

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By holding the line on excessive spending and opposing repeal of the filibuster, Sinema has spent some of her political capital on the Left to win over a critical mass of independents, as well as generate goodwill from Republicans. A newly released poll conducted by OH Predictive Insights, conducted from Sept. 7-12, shows how unique her political coalition of support is in these tribal times. Her net favorability is plus-7 (46 percent favorable, 39 percent unfavorable) in a state that President Biden carried by a single point. While just 56 percent of Democrats view her favorably, she holds an above-water (plus-6) rating with independents and unusually high 40 percent favorability rating among Republicans.

All told, her overall favorability rating is a notch higher than newly elected Sen. Mark Kelly. He polls between 43 and 44 percent against all Republicans in next year’s Senate race. His net favorability rating is plus-4, with 47 percent viewing him favorably and 43 percent viewing him unfavorably.

Angry progressive pundits are convinced that Sinema’s independent positioning will doom her in a Democratic primary. That is a total misread of her political situation.

Yep. She's going to win re-election in 2024. Whether she runs as an Independent or a Democrat remains to be seen but she has substantial support among the Republicans, just like McCain did with the Democrats.

From 1987 - 2018 he represented Arizona. Winning election after election. In that time he had 3 'partner' Senators who couldn't keep or didn't want to stay in their seats. And in that time since - 3 Senators have sat in McCain's seat - with Mark Kelly being the latest.

If Sinema can be half as long-lived, she'll be doing good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

By holding the line on excessive spending and opposing repeal of the filibuster, Sinema has spent some of her political capital on the Left to win over a critical mass of independents, as well as generate goodwill from Republicans. A newly released poll conducted by OH Predictive Insights, conducted from Sept. 7-12, shows how unique her political coalition of support is in these tribal times. Her net favorability is plus-7 (46 percent favorable, 39 percent unfavorable) in a state that President Biden carried by a single point. While just 56 percent of Democrats view her favorably, she holds an above-water (plus-6) rating with independents and unusually high 40 percent favorability rating among Republicans.

All told, her overall favorability rating is a notch higher than newly elected Sen. Mark Kelly. He polls between 43 and 44 percent against all Republicans in next year’s Senate race. His net favorability rating is plus-4, with 47 percent viewing him favorably and 43 percent viewing him unfavorably.

Angry progressive pundits are convinced that Sinema’s independent positioning will doom her in a Democratic primary. That is a total misread of her political situation.

Yep. She's going to win re-election in 2024. Whether she runs as an Independent or a Democrat remains to be seen but she has substantial support among the Republicans, just like McCain did with the Democrats.

From 1987 - 2018 he represented Arizona. Winning election after election. In that time he had 3 'partner' Senators who couldn't keep or didn't want to stay in their seats. And in that time since - 3 Senators have sat in McCain's seat - with Mark Kelly being the latest.

If Sinema can be half as long-lived, she'll be doing good.

McCain’s maverick reputation was overrated. He voted consistently with his party nearly all the time. Sinema can’t seem to make up her mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous. Sinema show remarkable restraint.

JFC! That was insane. What scum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous. Sinema show remarkable restraint.

JFC! That was insane. What scum.

I know, she is awful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous. Sinema show remarkable restraint.

JFC! That was insane. What scum.

She could have gone to the funeral if she wanted to. She just might not have been able to come back in. And that’s as it should be.

[Anonymous]

He has a good point.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He has a good point.....

Because they aren't the same? On the one hand you had one strong person resisting pressure to take away healthcare from millions of Americans. On the other you have one inscrutable person - doing what exactly? No one knows! She's resisting passage of some important bills - for... reasons? To try to get... something? Nothing? Attention? Lunch? Who knows!

People on the right like that she's standing in the way - but we don't know why she is, or what she wants, so it's hard to know what to make of this other than it is something.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He has a good point.....

Because they aren't the same? On the one hand you had one strong person resisting pressure to take away healthcare from millions of Americans. On the other you have one inscrutable person - doing what exactly? No one knows! She's resisting passage of some important bills - for... reasons? To try to get... something? Nothing? Attention? Lunch? Who knows!

People on the right like that she's standing in the way - but we don't know why she is, or what she wants, so it's hard to know what to make of this other than it is something.

It’s something, alright. She’s sht all over the people who elected her - a majority of Arizonans. She’s not listening to her constituents, she’s not responding to them, the bill is enormously popular and is less than half the price of the military budget, plus it will yield actual tangible results for most Americans. The right just likes her because she’s being as big of sht bag as they are. Obstructionist. Answers only to deep pocketed donors who don’t represent her constituents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He has a good point.....

I seem to recall McCain got some pretty poor treatment from certain republicans, and one particular republican, after he did that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous. Sinema show remarkable restraint.

JFC! That was insane. What scum.

She could have gone to the funeral if she wanted to. She just might not have been able to come back in. And that’s as it should be.

Exactly. This is an undocumented immigrant that we don’t need in our country. If she has not learned that following someone into a bathroom is inappropriate and likely illegal, she can leave and do this kind of crap in her own country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He has a good point.....

I seem to recall McCain got some pretty poor treatment from certain republicans, and one particular republican, after he did that.

Yep, Democrat here - loved McCain for that. The Right despised him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

By holding the line on excessive spending and opposing repeal of the filibuster, Sinema has spent some of her political capital on the Left to win over a critical mass of independents, as well as generate goodwill from Republicans. A newly released poll conducted by OH Predictive Insights, conducted from Sept. 7-12, shows how unique her political coalition of support is in these tribal times. Her net favorability is plus-7 (46 percent favorable, 39 percent unfavorable) in a state that President Biden carried by a single point. While just 56 percent of Democrats view her favorably, she holds an above-water (plus-6) rating with independents and unusually high 40 percent favorability rating among Republicans.

All told, her overall favorability rating is a notch higher than newly elected Sen. Mark Kelly. He polls between 43 and 44 percent against all Republicans in next year’s Senate race. His net favorability rating is plus-4, with 47 percent viewing him favorably and 43 percent viewing him unfavorably.

Angry progressive pundits are convinced that Sinema’s independent positioning will doom her in a Democratic primary. That is a total misread of her political situation.

Yep. She's going to win re-election in 2024. Whether she runs as an Independent or a Democrat remains to be seen but she has substantial support among the Republicans, just like McCain did with the Democrats.

From 1987 - 2018 he represented Arizona. Winning election after election. In that time he had 3 'partner' Senators who couldn't keep or didn't want to stay in their seats. And in that time since - 3 Senators have sat in McCain's seat - with Mark Kelly being the latest.

If Sinema can be half as long-lived, she'll be doing good.

Lol, she needs support among independents. Arizona is about 1/3 each. Her "popularity" has only increased among republicans. It has decreased among the other 2/3. It's not working because her electoral analysis is about as deep and well thought out as her reconcilliation bill position

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous. Sinema show remarkable restraint.

JFC! That was insane. What scum.

She could have gone to the funeral if she wanted to. She just might not have been able to come back in. And that’s as it should be.

Exactly. This is an undocumented immigrant that we don’t need in our country. If she has not learned that following someone into a bathroom is inappropriate and likely illegal, she can leave and do this kind of crap in her own country.

Who are we? We need the people who grew up here and contributing to our society. You may have a different opinion based on the color of their skin, but do not include me in that "we". This is her country too - she does not have paper yet, but for all practical purposes she has no other country.


In addition, why do constituent have to follow Sinema to bathroom if she was available to answer to them otherwise...because she is hiding from them and attending funraisers only!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

By holding the line on excessive spending and opposing repeal of the filibuster, Sinema has spent some of her political capital on the Left to win over a critical mass of independents, as well as generate goodwill from Republicans. A newly released poll conducted by OH Predictive Insights, conducted from Sept. 7-12, shows how unique her political coalition of support is in these tribal times. Her net favorability is plus-7 (46 percent favorable, 39 percent unfavorable) in a state that President Biden carried by a single point. While just 56 percent of Democrats view her favorably, she holds an above-water (plus-6) rating with independents and unusually high 40 percent favorability rating among Republicans.

All told, her overall favorability rating is a notch higher than newly elected Sen. Mark Kelly. He polls between 43 and 44 percent against all Republicans in next year’s Senate race. His net favorability rating is plus-4, with 47 percent viewing him favorably and 43 percent viewing him unfavorably.

Angry progressive pundits are convinced that Sinema’s independent positioning will doom her in a Democratic primary. That is a total misread of her political situation.

Yep. She's going to win re-election in 2024. Whether she runs as an Independent or a Democrat remains to be seen but she has substantial support among the Republicans, just like McCain did with the Democrats.

From 1987 - 2018 he represented Arizona. Winning election after election. In that time he had 3 'partner' Senators who couldn't keep or didn't want to stay in their seats. And in that time since - 3 Senators have sat in McCain's seat - with Mark Kelly being the latest.

If Sinema can be half as long-lived, she'll be doing good.

Lol, she needs support among independents. Arizona is about 1/3 each. Her "popularity" has only increased among republicans. It has decreased among the other 2/3. It's not working because her electoral analysis is about as deep and well thought out as her reconcilliation bill position

Did you read the PPs stats?

While just 56 percent of Democrats view her favorably, she holds an above-water (plus-6) rating with independents and unusually high 40 percent favorability rating among Republicans.

Seems she has high ratings with Republicans, more positive than negative ratings with Democrats, and is good with independents as well. She seems to be just fine and better placed than anyone who would challenge her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

By holding the line on excessive spending and opposing repeal of the filibuster, Sinema has spent some of her political capital on the Left to win over a critical mass of independents, as well as generate goodwill from Republicans. A newly released poll conducted by OH Predictive Insights, conducted from Sept. 7-12, shows how unique her political coalition of support is in these tribal times. Her net favorability is plus-7 (46 percent favorable, 39 percent unfavorable) in a state that President Biden carried by a single point. While just 56 percent of Democrats view her favorably, she holds an above-water (plus-6) rating with independents and unusually high 40 percent favorability rating among Republicans.

All told, her overall favorability rating is a notch higher than newly elected Sen. Mark Kelly. He polls between 43 and 44 percent against all Republicans in next year’s Senate race. His net favorability rating is plus-4, with 47 percent viewing him favorably and 43 percent viewing him unfavorably.

Angry progressive pundits are convinced that Sinema’s independent positioning will doom her in a Democratic primary. That is a total misread of her political situation.

Yep. She's going to win re-election in 2024. Whether she runs as an Independent or a Democrat remains to be seen but she has substantial support among the Republicans, just like McCain did with the Democrats.

From 1987 - 2018 he represented Arizona. Winning election after election. In that time he had 3 'partner' Senators who couldn't keep or didn't want to stay in their seats. And in that time since - 3 Senators have sat in McCain's seat - with Mark Kelly being the latest.

If Sinema can be half as long-lived, she'll be doing good.

Lol, she needs support among independents. Arizona is about 1/3 each. Her "popularity" has only increased among republicans. It has decreased among the other 2/3. It's not working because her electoral analysis is about as deep and well thought out as her reconcilliation bill position

Did you read the PPs stats?

While just 56 percent of Democrats view her favorably, she holds an above-water (plus-6) rating with independents and unusually high 40 percent favorability rating among Republicans.

Seems she has high ratings with Republicans, more positive than negative ratings with Democrats, and is good with independents as well. She seems to be just fine and better placed than anyone who would challenge her.

Dig deeper. Support among independents is dropping, it's just not negative yet, and the republican support growth is among the subset that won't vote for her no matter what. It's all superficial.