PSA: Please do not host a Christian seder

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We can’t stop you from doing it, but it would be empathetic for you to understand why it’s offensive.

I’m a very empathetic person. I genuinely do not see how it’s offensive.

Multiple people have posted articles explaining this. Have you read them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“A Christian Seder absolutely involves inserting Jesus into Jewish traditions. That’s the entire reason it’s offensive.”

All of Christianity is about inserting Jesus into Jewish traditions. He was a Jew. Just because you find it offensive doesn’t mean others cannot practice their religion however they choose to.

LOLOL! If Christianity were about "inserting Jesus into Jewish traditions" then you would still celebrate all the same holidays. The reality is that the religion you refer to as Christianity is a rapid departure of that which the ancient Israelites followed and has nothing to do with modern Judaism.

Christianity explicitly rejects much of the Old Testament. You don't follow Purim, you don't follow Rosh Hashanah or Yom Kippur. You reject the book of life and Kashrut. You believe in eternal damnation, contradicted by the Old Testament and modern Judaism alike. Most of you reject sex as a positive act, which Jews have supported as part of their religion since the beginning. In fact, the best thing, in the eyes of God, that a Jewish couple can do on Shabbat is have sex. Most Christians rejects abortion, which is both legal and fine under the Jewish tradition and fine by the standards of the ancient Israelites. And then Christians persecuted Jews for rejecting your beliefs for 2000 plus years. If you want to appropriate our culture and holidays, god bless, but to act like your religion is simply an update of Judaism is both laughable and factually untrue.

I didn’t say Christianity is an update of Judaism. Jesus was a Jew and inserted himself in Jewish traditions by participating in them and commenting on them, often turning the tables (literally and figuratively) on the Jewish leaders he interacted with. Persecution of anyone is wrong, no matter who is doing the persecution. Jesus and early Christians were Jewish and nothing in the New Testament would support persecuting Jews or anyone. Would you be offended if Christians followed Purim and Rosh Hashanah?

The New Testament might not have supported persecution, but it happened, from the destruction of the first and second Temples to the Crusades, Holocaust, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We can’t stop you from doing it, but it would be empathetic for you to understand why it’s offensive.

I'm offended by aspects of several religions. Including Judaism. And yet, it's not my business. And the world keeps on turning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agreed. And Jews should not celebrate Christmas, either.

I don't know a single Jew who celebrates Christmas in early Fall, when Jesus was likely born.

The December festivities are 1000% secular.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can’t stop you from doing it, but it would be empathetic for you to understand why it’s offensive.

I’m a very empathetic person. I genuinely do not see how it’s offensive.

reposted from earlier in the thread "As a Christian, I really can't wrap my head around other Christians who don't approach this with the golden rule. If I imagine being in a country where I was a religious minority, and people from the religious majority wanted to use a sacred Christian holiday but take away all the religious content from my faith and insert their own religious texts, I would find that very disrespectful."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We can’t stop you from doing it, but it would be empathetic for you to understand why it’s offensive.

I'm offended by aspects of several religions. Including Judaism. And yet, it's not my business. And the world keeps on turning.

People can’t stop you from being offensive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can’t stop you from doing it, but it would be empathetic for you to understand why it’s offensive.

I'm offended by aspects of several religions. Including Judaism. And yet, it's not my business. And the world keeps on turning.

People can’t stop you from being offensive.

And people can't stop you from being constantly offended. Looks like we should just live our lives, eh?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. And Jews should not celebrate Christmas, either.

I don't know a single Jew who celebrates Christmas in early Fall, when Jesus was likely born.

The December festivities are 1000% secular.

That’s the equivalent of saying my Passover Seder was 1000% Christian.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can’t stop you from doing it, but it would be empathetic for you to understand why it’s offensive.

I'm offended by aspects of several religions. Including Judaism. And yet, it's not my business. And the world keeps on turning.

People can’t stop you from being offensive.

And people can't stop you from being constantly offended. Looks like we should just live our lives, eh?

You have such empathy for your fellow human. You’re practically Christ-like.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can’t stop you from doing it, but it would be empathetic for you to understand why it’s offensive.

I'm offended by aspects of several religions. Including Judaism. And yet, it's not my business. And the world keeps on turning.

People can’t stop you from being offensive.

And people can't stop you from being constantly offended. Looks like we should just live our lives, eh?

Catholic here. You’re really a self-centered embarrassment to our Christian faith.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. And Jews should not celebrate Christmas, either.

the analogy is really that Jews should not light advent candles. Christmas is mostly secular; passover seders are home-based religious rituals.

Yup! A Christmas tree and Santa have nothing to do with the birth of Jesus.

The F? Santa is based on st Nicholas. The holiday celebrates the birth of Christ. IT’S NOT A SECULAR HOLIDAY, stop trying to appropriate it as one.

Except St, Nicholas day (Nicholmas) is December 6. Christmas means “feast of Christ”.

[Anonymous]

Why do you care?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can’t stop you from doing it, but it would be empathetic for you to understand why it’s offensive.

I’m a very empathetic person. I genuinely do not see how it’s offensive.

reposted from earlier in the thread "As a Christian, I really can't wrap my head around other Christians who don't approach this with the golden rule. If I imagine being in a country where I was a religious minority, and people from the religious majority wanted to use a sacred Christian holiday but take away all the religious content from my faith and insert their own religious texts, I would find that very disrespectful."

Like a Hanukkah tree?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can’t stop you from doing it, but it would be empathetic for you to understand why it’s offensive.

I’m a very empathetic person. I genuinely do not see how it’s offensive.

reposted from earlier in the thread "As a Christian, I really can't wrap my head around other Christians who don't approach this with the golden rule. If I imagine being in a country where I was a religious minority, and people from the religious majority wanted to use a sacred Christian holiday but take away all the religious content from my faith and insert their own religious texts, I would find that very disrespectful."

Like a Hanukkah tree?

A Christmas tree isn’t sacred!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can’t stop you from doing it, but it would be empathetic for you to understand why it’s offensive.

I’m a very empathetic person. I genuinely do not see how it’s offensive.

reposted from earlier in the thread "As a Christian, I really can't wrap my head around other Christians who don't approach this with the golden rule. If I imagine being in a country where I was a religious minority, and people from the religious majority wanted to use a sacred Christian holiday but take away all the religious content from my faith and insert their own religious texts, I would find that very disrespectful."

Like a Hanukkah tree?

A Christmas tree isn’t sacred!!

Interesting you say that because there’s a lot of secular seders among Jews as well. (Also, FYI much like the theme of spring evolved with the Jewish Passover Seder, so has the Christmas tree for observant Christians. The star on top represents the star of Bethlehem and is turned on only on Christmas.)