How long will the shutdown last?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a Dem, and I wish Congress would appropriate the $5 billion for his stupid f@cking wall and reopen the government. It is just a wall. Other walls (fences, whatever you want to call them) exist along the border. And frankly, I care much more about my own ability to pay my mortgage and support my family than I care about preventing a wall. So let him win.

former D who agrees with you

I do wish Mexico COULD fund it (lol), but that's a dream.

Give him the damn money and let's move on. After this he's not a 2020 candidate!

Ha. That makes him a stronger 2020 candidate.

And that's the key of this whole mess -- 2020 politics.

$5 billion is peanuts in the grand scheme of the budget. But Democrats can't risk to give Trump a win to boost his 2020 chance. If Trump folds this time, he will be dead to a big chunk of his base in 2020.

This shutdown could last a long time. I don't see a way out unless each side's base flip.

[Anonymous]

There is another way out-

Remove this mfer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a Dem, and I wish Congress would appropriate the $5 billion for his stupid f@cking wall and reopen the government. It is just a wall. Other walls (fences, whatever you want to call them) exist along the border. And frankly, I care much more about my own ability to pay my mortgage and support my family than I care about preventing a wall. So let him win.

former D who agrees with you

I do wish Mexico COULD fund it (lol), but that's a dream.

Give him the damn money and let's move on. After this he's not a 2020 candidate!

Ha. That makes him a stronger 2020 candidate.

And that's the key of this whole mess -- 2020 politics.

$5 billion is peanuts in the grand scheme of the budget. But Democrats can't risk to give Trump a win to boost his 2020 chance. If Trump folds this time, he will be dead to a big chunk of his base in 2020.

This shutdown could last a long time. I don't see a way out unless each side's base flip.

You do realize that if it wasn’t the wall, it would be something else. He wants to ruin our government.

[Anonymous]

Can somebody explain to me how and what happened with Schumer's earlier proposal that gave 25 billion in funding? I don't watch much politics, if I understand correctly Republicans rejected the bill that included DACA? Why is this not more talked about right now? 25 billion dollars that Democrats offered and Republicans refused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can somebody explain to me how and what happened with Schumer's earlier proposal that gave 25 billion in funding? I don't watch much politics, if I understand correctly Republicans rejected the bill that included DACA? Why is this not more talked about right now? 25 billion dollars that Democrats offered and Republicans refused.

Short attention span and resistance to facts?

[Anonymous]

Maybe he's going to resign soon? Pence is negotiating now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a Dem, and I wish Congress would appropriate the $5 billion for his stupid f@cking wall and reopen the government. It is just a wall. Other walls (fences, whatever you want to call them) exist along the border. And frankly, I care much more about my own ability to pay my mortgage and support my family than I care about preventing a wall. So let him win.

former D who agrees with you

I do wish Mexico COULD fund it (lol), but that's a dream.

Give him the damn money and let's move on. After this he's not a 2020 candidate!

Ha. That makes him a stronger 2020 candidate.

And that's the key of this whole mess -- 2020 politics.

$5 billion is peanuts in the grand scheme of the budget. But Democrats can't risk to give Trump a win to boost his 2020 chance. If Trump folds this time, he will be dead to a big chunk of his base in 2020.

This shutdown could last a long time. I don't see a way out unless each side's base flip.

I think Nancy is coaching him on how to walk this back without looking like he caved. He knows he’s in over his head, but won’t back down unless he can do so with his ego intact.

[Anonymous]

That’s right - he needs a way out of this. I vote for Executive Order - why not? Just needs a photo op for the base.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That’s right - he needs a way out of this. I vote for Executive Order - why not? Just needs a photo op for the base.

Exactly, I know some members of Trumps base and they won't know the difference, as long as he declares a "win" of some kind.

He could even take the same compromise out that Congress came up with before Christmas, declare it "his" idea, and call it a win, and his base won't know the difference.

[Anonymous]

In the latest news, Trump calls the shutdown that he took ownership of, and caused, a "strike."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-referred-to-shutdown-as-strike-in-meeting-with-lawmakers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That’s right - he needs a way out of this. I vote for Executive Order - why not? Just needs a photo op for the base.

As someone who is greatly affected by the shutdown, I kinda want him to do this. We could go back to work without Nancy caving at all. He can simply sign the EO and then immediately resurrect his “Hillary’s email!” cry to distract his base so that he will never have to actually bother building the wall. This should get us through until resignation, impeachment, or the election. Then the democrats can reverse the whole thing and come up with innovative 21st century border security ideas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s right - he needs a way out of this. I vote for Executive Order - why not? Just needs a photo op for the base.

Exactly, I know some members of Trumps base and they won't know the difference, as long as he declares a "win" of some kind.

He could even take the same compromise out that Congress came up with before Christmas, declare it "his" idea, and call it a win, and his base won't know the difference.

How elitist of you. My bet is that you don't actually know any of "Trump's base" but are basing your comments on the stereotypes you carry.

And, for those of you who say, "Walls don't work".....

Don't you find it just a bit hypocritical that before Obama moved into his Kalorama home, the first thing he had done was to create fencing around his home?
Not to mention all the other politicians that have walls or fences or barriers around their properties...........

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s right - he needs a way out of this. I vote for Executive Order - why not? Just needs a photo op for the base.

As someone who is greatly affected by the shutdown, I kinda want him to do this. We could go back to work without Nancy caving at all. He can simply sign the EO and then immediately resurrect his “Hillary’s email!” cry to distract his base so that he will never have to actually bother building the wall. This should get us through until resignation, impeachment, or the election. Then the democrats can reverse the whole thing and come up with innovative 21st century border security ideas.

What are these 21st century border security ideas of which you speak?
Because neither Nancy nor Chuckie have articulated any solutions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s right - he needs a way out of this. I vote for Executive Order - why not? Just needs a photo op for the base.

Exactly, I know some members of Trumps base and they won't know the difference, as long as he declares a "win" of some kind.

He could even take the same compromise out that Congress came up with before Christmas, declare it "his" idea, and call it a win, and his base won't know the difference.

How elitist of you. My bet is that you don't actually know any of "Trump's base" but are basing your comments on the stereotypes you carry.

And, for those of you who say, "Walls don't work".....

Don't you find it just a bit hypocritical that before Obama moved into his Kalorama home, the first thing he had done was to create fencing around his home?
Not to mention all the other politicians that have walls or fences or barriers around their properties...........

LOL. Turn off foxnews. It makes you sound like an IDIOT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Maybe he's going to resign soon? Pence is negotiating now.

Without Trump's blessing to offer new numbers, apparently. So just another waste of time.