Don't fly United

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the passenger thought he was so important the IDB rules didn't apply to him. I know he claimed to be a doctor, but...I just don't understand it. Airlines don't deny boarding to people based on the important of their jobs. Is there something else going on here?

I don't care if he were a welfare cheat. This shouldn't happen to anybody.

Right. But why didn't he just get off the plane? I fly 100K+ miles a year and I just don't understand this situation. That's where everything went wrong, so I'm not sure why everyone's harping on United.

(And for the record, I DESPISE United and haven't flown them in 20 years. But I don't understand the uproar.)

He's probably not a frequent flyer (hence his selection) and felt an obligation to the patients he was to see the next day. It's not hard to imagine that he sees patients with critical needs or who have waited a long time to see him. I'm sure he never imagined that they'd beat him and drag him off the plane. And frankly, the fact that you don't understand the uproar is a bit disturbing. Do you think it's okay for companies to beat up their paying customers?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Omg!!. They need to go bankrupt for treating a customer like this. !

I am not saying this is right but why should the company go bankrupt and tens of thousands of people loose their jobs over this one incident.
I am pretty sure the CEO of the airline did not direct the actions of these employees.

Should there be punishment...absolutely. Should people vote with their feet and dollars if they don't like it..absolutely
Should the company go out of business and put employees on the street..absolutely not.

The CEO's response is obnoxious and tone deaf.

Yes-didn't think it was possible to be so avoidant of any responsibility.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the passenger thought he was so important the IDB rules didn't apply to him. I know he claimed to be a doctor, but...I just don't understand it. Airlines don't deny boarding to people based on the important of their jobs. Is there something else going on here?

I don't care if he were a welfare cheat. This shouldn't happen to anybody.

Right. But why didn't he just get off the plane? I fly 100K+ miles a year and I just don't understand this situation. That's where everything went wrong, so I'm not sure why everyone's harping on United.

(And for the record, I DESPISE United and haven't flown them in 20 years. But I don't understand the uproar.)

He's probably not a frequent flyer (hence his selection) and felt an obligation to the patients he was to see the next day. It's not hard to imagine that he sees patients with critical needs or who have waited a long time to see him. I'm sure he never imagined that they'd beat him and drag him off the plane. And frankly, the fact that you don't understand the uproar is a bit disturbing. Do you think it's okay for companies to beat up their paying customers?

He never imagined that bad things would happen if he didn't do what was requested of him on an airplane? Mmm-kay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the passenger thought he was so important the IDB rules didn't apply to him. I know he claimed to be a doctor, but...I just don't understand it. Airlines don't deny boarding to people based on the important of their jobs. Is there something else going on here?

I don't care if he were a welfare cheat. This shouldn't happen to anybody.

Right. But why didn't he just get off the plane? I fly 100K+ miles a year and I just don't understand this situation. That's where everything went wrong, so I'm not sure why everyone's harping on United.

(And for the record, I DESPISE United and haven't flown them in 20 years. But I don't understand the uproar.)

Are you a flight attendent? did you fly those miles as an employee of united (or some similar airline)?

would you really just obediently get off the flight? would you just say "oh well! I didn't really need to go to that job interview! I'm sure something else will come up" or "I didn't really want to go to my father's funeral?" Or did you say "good thing I gave up all my vacation so I can fly one day early just in case this happens?"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:between this incident and the girls changing their clothes because of their leggings, i don't think I could book a United flight, even if it was significantly cheaper. Who wants to deal with a company that seems to have zero regard for their customers? Absolutely disgusting.

BTW - this a management problem. The attitude of their crew/staff comes from poor management at the top.

Will you also avoid flying through Chicago? It was Chicago Aviation Police that roughed the guy up, not United.

Not the PP, but I avoid flying through Chicago (O'Hare) on general principle. I'm from the midwest, and O'Hare is consistently a hot mess for whatever reason. If it's not planes getting bumped between gates with next to no warning such that you have to run, it's endless delays and rude customer service people. Several years ago, I was flying out of O'Hare with my 2.5 year old (DH was elsewhere). I checked in at the counter and was told that my 2.5 year old would be seated several rows behind me, in a middle seat. When I pointed out that this is a minor child who has a car seat to sit in and that per regulations, the seat could not be in the middle but had to be in the window, the agent snippily told me, "Well, I don't know what to tell you. There aren't any window seats available." She then suggested that I take it up with the agent at the gate who "might be able to do something about it."

I avoid O'Hare for the same reasons. But I had a similar situation with a young child on USAirways out of DCA when we were flying to my dad's funeral. They're also on my Never Again list.

I think there is now a new law requiring families to be seated together? I hope we get another new law removing the limit on compensation and making it illegal to do what united did.

There is no limit. Let's stop spreading this falsehood.

Explain this limit then: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/250.5

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the passenger thought he was so important the IDB rules didn't apply to him. I know he claimed to be a doctor, but...I just don't understand it. Airlines don't deny boarding to people based on the important of their jobs. Is there something else going on here?

I don't care if he were a welfare cheat. This shouldn't happen to anybody.

Right. But why didn't he just get off the plane? I fly 100K+ miles a year and I just don't understand this situation. That's where everything went wrong, so I'm not sure why everyone's harping on United.

(And for the record, I DESPISE United and haven't flown them in 20 years. But I don't understand the uproar.)

Are you a flight attendent? did you fly those miles as an employee of united (or some similar airline)?

would you really just obediently get off the flight? would you just say "oh well! I didn't really need to go to that job interview! I'm sure something else will come up" or "I didn't really want to go to my father's funeral?" Or did you say "good thing I gave up all my vacation so I can fly one day early just in case this happens?"

I just said I haven't flown United in 20 years. I fly DL and AA, not as an employee.

And yes, I have obediently gotten off flights after being bumped. Only twice, but it's happened.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the passenger thought he was so important the IDB rules didn't apply to him. I know he claimed to be a doctor, but...I just don't understand it. Airlines don't deny boarding to people based on the important of their jobs. Is there something else going on here?

I don't care if he were a welfare cheat. This shouldn't happen to anybody.

Right. But why didn't he just get off the plane? I fly 100K+ miles a year and I just don't understand this situation. That's where everything went wrong, so I'm not sure why everyone's harping on United.

(And for the record, I DESPISE United and haven't flown them in 20 years. But I don't understand the uproar.)

He's probably not a frequent flyer (hence his selection) and felt an obligation to the patients he was to see the next day. It's not hard to imagine that he sees patients with critical needs or who have waited a long time to see him. I'm sure he never imagined that they'd beat him and drag him off the plane. And frankly, the fact that you don't understand the uproar is a bit disturbing. Do you think it's okay for companies to beat up their paying customers?

He never imagined that bad things would happen if he didn't do what was requested of him on an airplane? Mmm-kay.

maybe he was willing to take the bad things to strike one for all of us who are being abused by large corporations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the passenger thought he was so important the IDB rules didn't apply to him. I know he claimed to be a doctor, but...I just don't understand it. Airlines don't deny boarding to people based on the important of their jobs. Is there something else going on here?

I don't care if he were a welfare cheat. This shouldn't happen to anybody.

Right. But why didn't he just get off the plane? I fly 100K+ miles a year and I just don't understand this situation. That's where everything went wrong, so I'm not sure why everyone's harping on United.

(And for the record, I DESPISE United and haven't flown them in 20 years. But I don't understand the uproar.)

You seriously don't understand the uproar? Are you autistic?

No. I'm a frequent traveler who would have gotten off the damn plane when first asked, then taken it up with the airline and walked about with my $1600+. It's happened before and it'll happen again.

I do think the police went overboard, but again, I can't figure out why no one's putting even a little blame on the passenger who thought he was above the IDB rules. And I'm still waiting for someone to explain that.

First, it was $800, not $1600. And because dragging an old man out of a seat he paid for is a wholly inappropriate way to deal with the situation. They could have gone to the next person on the list, or increased the compensation until someone took it. It's never okay to beat up a passenger. I don't know why that's hard to get.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the passenger thought he was so important the IDB rules didn't apply to him. I know he claimed to be a doctor, but...I just don't understand it. Airlines don't deny boarding to people based on the important of their jobs. Is there something else going on here?

I don't care if he were a welfare cheat. This shouldn't happen to anybody.

Right. But why didn't he just get off the plane? I fly 100K+ miles a year and I just don't understand this situation. That's where everything went wrong, so I'm not sure why everyone's harping on United.

(And for the record, I DESPISE United and haven't flown them in 20 years. But I don't understand the uproar.)

Are you a flight attendent? did you fly those miles as an employee of united (or some similar airline)?

would you really just obediently get off the flight? would you just say "oh well! I didn't really need to go to that job interview! I'm sure something else will come up" or "I didn't really want to go to my father's funeral?" Or did you say "good thing I gave up all my vacation so I can fly one day early just in case this happens?"

I just said I haven't flown United in 20 years. I fly DL and AA, not as an employee.

And yes, I have obediently gotten off flights after being bumped. Only twice, but it's happened.

Well, then you are a sheep. I hope I'd do what that man did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the passenger thought he was so important the IDB rules didn't apply to him. I know he claimed to be a doctor, but...I just don't understand it. Airlines don't deny boarding to people based on the important of their jobs. Is there something else going on here?

I don't care if he were a welfare cheat. This shouldn't happen to anybody.

Right. But why didn't he just get off the plane? I fly 100K+ miles a year and I just don't understand this situation. That's where everything went wrong, so I'm not sure why everyone's harping on United.

(And for the record, I DESPISE United and haven't flown them in 20 years. But I don't understand the uproar.)

Are you a flight attendent? did you fly those miles as an employee of united (or some similar airline)?

would you really just obediently get off the flight? would you just say "oh well! I didn't really need to go to that job interview! I'm sure something else will come up" or "I didn't really want to go to my father's funeral?" Or did you say "good thing I gave up all my vacation so I can fly one day early just in case this happens?"

I just said I haven't flown United in 20 years. I fly DL and AA, not as an employee.

And yes, I have obediently gotten off flights after being bumped. Only twice, but it's happened.

Curious, were you already seated?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the passenger thought he was so important the IDB rules didn't apply to him. I know he claimed to be a doctor, but...I just don't understand it. Airlines don't deny boarding to people based on the important of their jobs. Is there something else going on here?

I don't care if he were a welfare cheat. This shouldn't happen to anybody.

Right. But why didn't he just get off the plane? I fly 100K+ miles a year and I just don't understand this situation. That's where everything went wrong, so I'm not sure why everyone's harping on United.

(And for the record, I DESPISE United and haven't flown them in 20 years. But I don't understand the uproar.)

Are you a flight attendent? did you fly those miles as an employee of united (or some similar airline)?

would you really just obediently get off the flight? would you just say "oh well! I didn't really need to go to that job interview! I'm sure something else will come up" or "I didn't really want to go to my father's funeral?" Or did you say "good thing I gave up all my vacation so I can fly one day early just in case this happens?"

I just said I haven't flown United in 20 years. I fly DL and AA, not as an employee.

And yes, I have obediently gotten off flights after being bumped. Only twice, but it's happened.

What did you family say when you were late getting home? Your boss say when you showed up late to the place you were flying to? or are you infinitely wealthy, fly for fun, and just don't have schedule constraints?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the passenger thought he was so important the IDB rules didn't apply to him. I know he claimed to be a doctor, but...I just don't understand it. Airlines don't deny boarding to people based on the important of their jobs. Is there something else going on here?

I don't care if he were a welfare cheat. This shouldn't happen to anybody.

Right. But why didn't he just get off the plane? I fly 100K+ miles a year and I just don't understand this situation. That's where everything went wrong, so I'm not sure why everyone's harping on United.

(And for the record, I DESPISE United and haven't flown them in 20 years. But I don't understand the uproar.)

You seriously don't understand the uproar? Are you autistic?

Please do not insult people with autism by lumping them with this idiot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the passenger thought he was so important the IDB rules didn't apply to him. I know he claimed to be a doctor, but...I just don't understand it. Airlines don't deny boarding to people based on the important of their jobs. Is there something else going on here?

I don't care if he were a welfare cheat. This shouldn't happen to anybody.

Right. But why didn't he just get off the plane? I fly 100K+ miles a year and I just don't understand this situation. That's where everything went wrong, so I'm not sure why everyone's harping on United.

(And for the record, I DESPISE United and haven't flown them in 20 years. But I don't understand the uproar.)

He's probably not a frequent flyer (hence his selection) and felt an obligation to the patients he was to see the next day. It's not hard to imagine that he sees patients with critical needs or who have waited a long time to see him. I'm sure he never imagined that they'd beat him and drag him off the plane. And frankly, the fact that you don't understand the uproar is a bit disturbing. Do you think it's okay for companies to beat up their paying customers?

He never imagined that bad things would happen if he didn't do what was requested of him on an airplane? Mmm-kay.

He wasn't unruly. He wasn't creating a disturbance. Judging by the overwhelming reaction of the flying public, most people would not expect to be beaten and dragged off the plane in this circumstance.

[Anonymous]

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First, it was $800, not $1600. And because dragging an old man out of a seat he paid for is a wholly inappropriate way to deal with the situation. They could have gone to the next person on the list, or increased the compensation until someone took it. It's never okay to beat up a passenger. I don't know why that's hard to get.

Go to the next person on the list? That will go well. That person will see if you raise a fuss, then the policy doesn't apply to you,and they will do the same, right on down the list.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the passenger thought he was so important the IDB rules didn't apply to him. I know he claimed to be a doctor, but...I just don't understand it. Airlines don't deny boarding to people based on the important of their jobs. Is there something else going on here?

I don't care if he were a welfare cheat. This shouldn't happen to anybody.

Right. But why didn't he just get off the plane? I fly 100K+ miles a year and I just don't understand this situation. That's where everything went wrong, so I'm not sure why everyone's harping on United.

(And for the record, I DESPISE United and haven't flown them in 20 years. But I don't understand the uproar.)

Are you a flight attendent? did you fly those miles as an employee of united (or some similar airline)?

would you really just obediently get off the flight? would you just say "oh well! I didn't really need to go to that job interview! I'm sure something else will come up" or "I didn't really want to go to my father's funeral?" Or did you say "good thing I gave up all my vacation so I can fly one day early just in case this happens?"

I just said I haven't flown United in 20 years. I fly DL and AA, not as an employee.

And yes, I have obediently gotten off flights after being bumped. Only twice, but it's happened.

How many people were inconvenienced when you were bumped?