Don't fly United

[Anonymous]

It's really such a shame that United abused its power the way they did. The police should be suing United, as well.


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I think, given the caliber of the results, that the police probably will. Or, the police will try to settle with United (if insurance is involved, in a civil case, it is called subrogation - collecting from the responsible party - in this case, United. It might be called something else in this instance, but the principle is the same.) United caused undue harm to both the police AND the customer. But for United's actions, none of this would have happened. United can lie all they want, they are not getting out of their responsibilities to all they dragged into this; and their lying only makes them look worse and worse.

^^^huh? What kind of people are you? No, I do not want police thinking twice before coming to my aid. No I do not see how police and United are in kahoots together. No I do not see any grounds for police to sue United for injury they caused. No I do not see a successful "but for" analysis that puts all responsibility on United. No I do not see Dao as being free from all responsibility for the response he got: the other passengers remoned are free from injury. No I do not see how people have a lynchmob mentality because Dao is injured. Finally, ask yourself how you would feel if he were white. Would you still be up in arms? Think about it and let me know. In the meanwhile, ask yourself what is it about this case that makes me want blood? Is it a colored lives matter issue? Or is it a protest of authority figures, that I can rage about this authority figure because I am powerless to talk back to my own boss for dear of reprisal? Or what? Many people are feeling a huge sense of power coming to Daos defense even though he sounds like a total asshole. So it seems to be less about Dao and more about the commentators. A forum to vent frustrations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Get a grip you litigious Americans. Dao has nof been injured to the turn of millions and for all of yo to be thinking big $$recovery, unfortunately I bet Dao is thinking the same. I would give him a small or very small recovery. Under $25,000. I would not reward him for his behavior beyond a nominal $25k. It's a dream, but it's my dream.

The girl who recently broke every bone in her body due to the negligence of a sky dive operator who gave her a parachute that was the wrong size didn't even get a million dollars, and she will be in constant pain for the rest of her life.

Dao won't get millions.

Dream on. United won't want the publicity of a trial. They've got much deeper pockets than a skydive instructor. He will indeed get millions. Sky diving is an inheritantly risky activity. Sitting on an airplane shouldn't be. Corporations don't get to assault their customers.

I imagine she signed a waiver; plus, she "assumed the risk"-- a legal doctrine you may not know about.

She assumed the risk of being outfitted in a properly fitting parachute. They were negligent by putting her in a chute that didn't fit.

And damages aren't based on how rich a corporation/defendant is. Duh.

Actually, punitive damages are. Duh.

[Anonymous]

Dao's refusal to deplane may very well have been in contravention of federal law on interfering with a flight crew. It's a criminal offense, punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

I think Jeff Sessions should prosecute him for what he did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get a grip you litigious Americans. Dao has nof been injured to the turn of millions and for all of yo to be thinking big $$recovery, unfortunately I bet Dao is thinking the same. I would give him a small or very small recovery. Under $25,000. I would not reward him for his behavior beyond a nominal $25k. It's a dream, but it's my dream.

The girl who recently broke every bone in her body due to the negligence of a sky dive operator who gave her a parachute that was the wrong size didn't even get a million dollars, and she will be in constant pain for the rest of her life.

Dao won't get millions.

Dream on. United won't want the publicity of a trial. They've got much deeper pockets than a skydive instructor. He will indeed get millions. Sky diving is an inheritantly risky activity. Sitting on an airplane shouldn't be. Corporations don't get to assault their customers.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get a grip you litigious Americans. Dao has nof been injured to the turn of millions and for all of yo to be thinking big $$recovery, unfortunately I bet Dao is thinking the same. I would give him a small or very small recovery. Under $25,000. I would not reward him for his behavior beyond a nominal $25k. It's a dream, but it's my dream.

The girl who recently broke every bone in her body due to the negligence of a sky dive operator who gave her a parachute that was the wrong size didn't even get a million dollars, and she will be in constant pain for the rest of her life.

Dao won't get millions.

Dream on. United won't want the publicity of a trial. They've got much deeper pockets than a skydive instructor. He will indeed get millions. Sky diving is an inheritantly risky activity. Sitting on an airplane shouldn't be. Corporations don't get to assault their customers.

Exactly.

+3

Anything tho avoid bad publicity - which United should have considered well before this fiasco they created.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's really such a shame that United abused its power the way they did. The police should be suing United, as well.


+1

I think, given the caliber of the results, that the police probably will. Or, the police will try to settle with United (if insurance is involved, in a civil case, it is called subrogation - collecting from the responsible party - in this case, United. It might be called something else in this instance, but the principle is the same.) United caused undue harm to both the police AND the customer. But for United's actions, none of this would have happened. United can lie all they want, they are not getting out of their responsibilities to all they dragged into this; and their lying only makes them look worse and worse.

^^^huh? What kind of people are you? No, I do not want police thinking twice before coming to my aid. No I do not see how police and United are in kahoots together. No I do not see any grounds for police to sue United for injury they caused. No I do not see a successful "but for" analysis that puts all responsibility on United. No I do not see Dao as being free from all responsibility for the response he got: the other passengers remoned are free from injury. No I do not see how people have a lynchmob mentality because Dao is injured. Finally, ask yourself how you would feel if he were white. Would you still be up in arms? Think about it and let me know. In the meanwhile, ask yourself what is it about this case that makes me want blood? Is it a colored lives matter issue? Or is it a protest of authority figures, that I can rage about this authority figure because I am powerless to talk back to my own boss for dear of reprisal? Or what? Many people are feeling a huge sense of power coming to Daos defense even though he sounds like a total asshole. So it seems to be less about Dao and more about the commentators. A forum to vent frustrations.

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Disagree entirely. United's blatant overreaction did not fit what Dao did - and the whole situation was caused by (you guessed it) United, to begin with. Simple.

It's called ACCOUNTABILITY. Ever heard of it? I'm guessing not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dao's refusal to deplane may very well have been in contravention of federal law on interfering with a flight crew. It's a criminal offense, punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

I think Jeff Sessions should prosecute him for what he did.

Whatever. United's actions were so far over the line, they can't hire enough attorneys to help them.

[Anonymous]

Lol at Jeff sessions prosecuting a case

[Anonymous]

In other news, United's stock price is back up to higher than it was before the incident:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ual?ltr=1

I guess the market doesn't care. Let's see if passengers do -- April passenger numbers will be released in about 2 weeks.

[Anonymous]

United has reached a confidential settlement with Dr. Dao and admitted responsibility for their actions. I hope he got fair compensation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:United has reached a confidential settlement with Dr. Dao and admitted responsibility for their actions. I hope he got fair compensation.

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PP here. While I agree Dao should get fair compensation (and perhaps more); there are seemingly some "copycats" (for lack of a better term) coming out of the woodwork. The woman who refused to give up her stroller? The man who refused to wait for the bathroom? C'mon.

[Anonymous]

DS was already scheduled to take a non-stop flight to California (from DC) as an unaccompanied minor when all of the news about United came out. Rather than get nervous, I took solace in the fact that with all the bad press, the last thing they'd allow to happen is for a little black boy to either be mistreated or lost.

He was well-attended and everything went seamlessly. Thank god!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's really such a shame that United abused its power the way they did. The police should be suing United, as well.


+1

I think, given the caliber of the results, that the police probably will. Or, the police will try to settle with United (if insurance is involved, in a civil case, it is called subrogation - collecting from the responsible party - in this case, United. It might be called something else in this instance, but the principle is the same.) United caused undue harm to both the police AND the customer. But for United's actions, none of this would have happened. United can lie all they want, they are not getting out of their responsibilities to all they dragged into this; and their lying only makes them look worse and worse.

^^^huh? What kind of people are you? No, I do not want police thinking twice before coming to my aid. No I do not see how police and United are in kahoots together. No I do not see any grounds for police to sue United for injury they caused. No I do not see a successful "but for" analysis that puts all responsibility on United. No I do not see Dao as being free from all responsibility for the response he got: the other passengers remoned are free from injury. No I do not see how people have a lynchmob mentality because Dao is injured. Finally, ask yourself how you would feel if he were white. Would you still be up in arms? Think about it and let me know. In the meanwhile, ask yourself what is it about this case that makes me want blood? Is it a colored lives matter issue? Or is it a protest of authority figures, that I can rage about this authority figure because I am powerless to talk back to my own boss for dear of reprisal? Or what? Many people are feeling a huge sense of power coming to Daos defense even though he sounds like a total asshole. So it seems to be less about Dao and more about the commentators. A forum to vent frustrations.

Cool story bro. It would be wrong for this to have happened to ANYBODY of any race. United got it wrong. I bet they won't do it again.

[Anonymous]

I read the news on the settlement and saw that they now authorize "compensation up to 10,000.00 for giving up your seat on an overbooked flight".
Now I actually don't mind being on an overbooked flight for once (if I'm not in a hurry of course )

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:United has reached a confidential settlement with Dr. Dao and admitted responsibility for their actions. I hope he got fair compensation.

will we ever find out how much that is?