DH Bought a Gun

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Not a troll, just a normal DC suburban mom.

DH has promised to lock it up, clean it when the kids aren’t home, and safely transport to and from the range so it is what it is. I don’t love it, but it’s his hobby and he’s responsible.

No, I don’t plan on sharing that there is a gun in our home because it is locked and no one has access to it except DH.

You will refuse to tell other parents that send their children to your home that you’re now gun owners? That is incredibly irresponsible op. Please reconsider this. Just as you don’t want it around your kids, plenty other of us don’t want it around our kids either. Parents have the right to make that decision for their kids. You won’t protect your own kids and are now taking that decision away from other parents. Shame on you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Not a troll, just a normal DC suburban mom.

DH has promised to lock it up, clean it when the kids aren’t home, and safely transport to and from the range so it is what it is. I don’t love it, but it’s his hobby and he’s responsible.

No, I don’t plan on sharing that there is a gun in our home because it is locked and no one has access to it except DH.

You will refuse to tell other parents that send their children to your home that you’re now gun owners? That is incredibly irresponsible op. Please reconsider this. Just as you don’t want it around your kids, plenty other of us don’t want it around our kids either. Parents have the right to make that decision for their kids. You won’t protect your own kids and are now taking that decision away from other parents. Shame on you.

DP I'm not going to tell you because it's none of your business. My guns are secure, my kids are protected, and any visitors are too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP - I just don’t want it out around our kids. He agreed.

Sure, Troll.


STILL A TROLL THREAD.

There is no gun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Not a troll, just a normal DC suburban mom.

DH has promised to lock it up, clean it when the kids aren’t home, and safely transport to and from the range so it is what it is. I don’t love it, but it’s his hobby and he’s responsible.

No, I don’t plan on sharing that there is a gun in our home because it is locked and no one has access to it except DH.

You will refuse to tell other parents that send their children to your home that you’re now gun owners? That is incredibly irresponsible op. Please reconsider this. Just as you don’t want it around your kids, plenty other of us don’t want it around our kids either. Parents have the right to make that decision for their kids. You won’t protect your own kids and are now taking that decision away from other parents. Shame on you.

If. It. Matters. To. You. ASK!

Follow the damned thread. I'm not going to tell you I have knives, dildos, an old glass bong... Those things are away from where your kids will be. Teach your kids to not go snooping and they'll be fine; I don't store my dildos with the kid DVDs, and there are no weapons in the playroom.

If a gun in the house is a dealbreaker TO YOU, it's YOUR responsibility to ask those questions upfront and get the information you need to make a decision you're comfortable with. Learn how to make a decision for yourself/your family without judging other people, AH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He's taken up shooting as a hobby in the past few months and recently decided to purchase a gun. He came home with it without discussion. We have elementary age kids, and I just don't want it in the house. He doesn't care, says it's for his hobby and he'll keep it locked up. Am I unreasonable? Is he?

He's unreasonable, not you. Tell him that he has 1 day to get rid of the gun or he can move out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

Not a troll, just a normal DC suburban mom.

DH has promised to lock it up, clean it when the kids aren’t home, and safely transport to and from the range so it is what it is. I don’t love it, but it’s his hobby and he’s responsible.

No, I don’t plan on sharing that there is a gun in our home because it is locked and no one has access to it except DH.

Sounds like you were late to have the chat, but it was fine. Hopefully, in the future, you'll be better at discussing your wants/needs upfront instead of getting butthurt people didn't do what they didn't know you wanted them to do. Unspoken expectations tank relationships.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - I just don’t want it out around our kids. He agreed.

Sure, Troll.


STILL A TROLL THREAD.

There is no gun.

Okay, Trollhunter Todd. Calm down.

Troll or no, it's a discussion. Participate or don't. Calling "TROLL! TROLL IN THE DCUM THREAD!" is pretty ridiculous. The mod(s) here DGAF.

[Anonymous]

NP here and I’m not going to wade into the issue of the husband/wife dynamics, but I will give a tip on the issue of kids and guns.

There used to be a very small book — practically a pamphlet — by a guy named Massad Ayoob, a professional / expert witness on criminal cases and homicides. It’s called “Gun-Proof Your Children”. If it’s still in print, or if you can find an old copy, it’s worth the couple hours it takes to read.

The premise is pretty straightforward. All these comments here about keeping the gun locked away and out of sight from the kids are off-base. (And that’s not to say that your guns shouldn’t be secured in safes; of course they should.) The point is that you should have very matter of fact discussions with your kids about the firearms you own, and the fact that a huge percentage of friends’ homes will have firearms, whether the parents choose to say so or not, and you need to remove the elements of secretiveness and stigma from the conversation.

The more matter-of-fact you are about the topic, the more you remove the natural “curiosity” that attracts kids to something that is perceived as off-limits. And it also gives you more of an opportunity to have practical and useful conversations about firearms and how they work, which is paramount to safety.

[Anonymous]

I've always been in the camp that would never have a gun in the house. I realize some people can effectively defend themselves against intruders with guns, but I believe guns in the house usually make people in the house less safe, not more safe, because people can do irrational things when they're depressed, angry, drunk, etc., and the risk to curious children is significant.

BUT...

I am starting to reconsider this in the era of Trump. I wonder whether progressive and other non-MAGA people like me should arm themselves. The January Sixers are scary and they seem to be growing bolder. Vigilante Trump supporters are on the rise. And can we be sure that the local police and U.S. military are going to stay more or less reasonable, and won't become a domestic army or SS for the MAGA movement? (I've been a supporter of the Black Lives Matter movement but I'm not a supporter of the "defund the police" movement and I believe most cops are good cops most of the time.)

All the crazy news about lawlessness by Trump and some of his supporters have me asking myself whether progressives and other non-MAGAs should arm themselves. Maybe it's stupid not to own a gun.

I'm not a troll, and I know I'm not the only progressive quietly asking this question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I've always been in the camp that would never have a gun in the house. I realize some people can effectively defend themselves against intruders with guns, but I believe guns in the house usually make people in the house less safe, not more safe, because people can do irrational things when they're depressed, angry, drunk, etc., and the risk to curious children is significant.

BUT...

I am starting to reconsider this in the era of Trump. I wonder whether progressive and other non-MAGA people like me should arm themselves. The January Sixers are scary and they seem to be growing bolder. Vigilante Trump supporters are on the rise. And can we be sure that the local police and U.S. military are going to stay more or less reasonable, and won't become a domestic army or SS for the MAGA movement? (I've been a supporter of the Black Lives Matter movement but I'm not a supporter of the "defund the police" movement and I believe most cops are good cops most of the time.)

All the crazy news about lawlessness by Trump and some of his supporters have me asking myself whether progressives and other non-MAGAs should arm themselves. Maybe it's stupid not to own a gun.

I'm not a troll, and I know I'm not the only progressive quietly asking this question.

You are crazy. The government has armies and tanks. You’re not going to stop an f19 with your ar15.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I've always been in the camp that would never have a gun in the house. I realize some people can effectively defend themselves against intruders with guns, but I believe guns in the house usually make people in the house less safe, not more safe, because people can do irrational things when they're depressed, angry, drunk, etc., and the risk to curious children is significant.

BUT...

I am starting to reconsider this in the era of Trump. I wonder whether progressive and other non-MAGA people like me should arm themselves. The January Sixers are scary and they seem to be growing bolder. Vigilante Trump supporters are on the rise. And can we be sure that the local police and U.S. military are going to stay more or less reasonable, and won't become a domestic army or SS for the MAGA movement? (I've been a supporter of the Black Lives Matter movement but I'm not a supporter of the "defund the police" movement and I believe most cops are good cops most of the time.)

All the crazy news about lawlessness by Trump and some of his supporters have me asking myself whether progressives and other non-MAGAs should arm themselves. Maybe it's stupid not to own a gun.

I'm not a troll, and I know I'm not the only progressive quietly asking this question.

You are crazy. The government has armies and tanks. You’re not going to stop an f19 with your ar15.

Tell that to the Taliban

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not a troll, and I know I'm not the only progressive quietly asking this question.

It's masterful trolling to reframe the Right's "OwN a gUn To ReSiSt GoVeRnMenT tYrAnNy" argument from a Lefty perspective.

[Anonymous]

My father started gun collecting when he turned 60 (he is 90 now).

He is a huge history buff, and knows a lot about WWII. He collected sidearms worn by German officers during the war. He learned all he could and was very careful in what he bought.

Why should you care? Because the appreciation of most of these guns exceeds 1000%.

We recently helped him move into assisted living, and he asked us (the family) to sell his collection and give the money to his grandchildren. We have sold one-half of the collection (in terms of the number of firearms), and netted $300K. The remainder should net another $200-$250K. He believes the entire collection's acquisition cost was between $50-75K.

I strongly support people lobbying to reduce access to firearms, because the collection jumps in value every time it appears that guns will be harder to own. I bring this example up because firearms can be much more than something you own for sport or self-defense.

[Anonymous]

PP, gross. All of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not a troll, and I know I'm not the only progressive quietly asking this question.

It's masterful trolling to reframe the Right's "OwN a gUn To ReSiSt GoVeRnMenT tYrAnNy" argument from a Lefty perspective.

Instead of thinking about the prior post as trolling, think about it as a question about how to respond to the rapid rise of fascism in America. The Trump administration is already taking people off the streets and sending them away brutal prisons. Compare the current government's acts and attitudes to those of Hitler in the early days of Nazi Germany. How would history have been different if the Jews of Germany had guns? Some historians say that 6 million Jews walked into railroad boxcars like sheep and rode the trains to concentration camps without serious resistance. At a certain point, could resistance to fascism in the USA require guns? I'm not saying yes but I'm not saying no, either. I think it's a serious question.