Spouse Lets DD Ghost My Mother

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

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Anonymous wrote:The OP complained about appointments getting in the way. This suggests something like a standing 1pm Saturday call with Grandma. And OP is angry that things like doctors appointments, haircuts, birthdays getting in the way. I think it is nuts to expect the world to stop in the middle of the day for a casual call. I am with the wife.

The polite thing is for DD to text grandma back with a good time to talk. You don’t leave grandma hanging if she thinks you are calling at a certain time. Again, how do you people exist in the world without basic social skills.

"basic social skills" do not require you to return every call, or make every call someone would like you to make.

Wow. If there is a group text where grandma says let’s talk at 1 pm, yes, DD should acknowledge her grandmother and respond one way or another. Yes, this is basic social skills. It’s a wonder how some of you have relationships and jobs.

Yes, but it's not a summons.

pathetic. I never said DD had to speak to grandma at the appointments hour. I said she shouldn’t leave grandma hanging thinking there is a call. Looking all of you tying to defend this BS.

Yes, she should absolutely respond and try to make a time work.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless there grandma has been mean to the wife and/or the daughter, the wife is being a sh*tty mother by interfering here. Purposely scheduling errands during the call is interfering. It’s a parents’ job to help kids keep relationships with extended family — even your spouse’s family.

No, it’s not a woman’s job to help kids keep relationships with the man’s mother. He has two hands and a phone, seems perfectly capable of doing it himself - this does not require a vagina!

I expect my husband to facilitate relationships (and definitely not interfere) with my parents. Sounds like you live in a house with low expectations and no team work.

Yeah I’m sure your husband is off shuttling the kids over to your mom’s house and doing whatever they need while you… sit at home and do nothing? Like op is doing? Gmafb 🙄

He does; just like his father did for him. I’m sorry it sounds like you live in an unsupportive house without team work.

But OP’s wife needs to do even less - she needs to leave her HS at home to run errands.

What’s hs

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Anonymous wrote:If Grandma or Dad's disdain for the teenager is anything like the comments on this thread, I can totally understand why she would want nothing to do with either of them.

Literally nowhere was any disdain shown for the girl. Stop making shit up.

What? People have called the DD a ton of names, and several pps have joined in calling other pps names. There has 100% been disdain and vitriol towards the young girl, if you conveniently missed it you are being willfully blind.

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

Why should I stfu when you’re literally proving my point? If your dad was alive you’d presumably want a relationship with him. If op wants to have a relationship with his daughter he should be putting in some effort. I’d rather no father than an abusive AH who blows up and gets “irrationally angry” about missing a few phone calls.

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

DP here. That's nice. My dad is in his 70's, still healthy. Travels multiple times a year to see a good friend of his. Never visits me or his grandkids two hours away. Last time we visited we stayed with my Aunt and he stopped by for an hour max. He hadn't seen his grandchildren in a year. He texts me twice a year on my birthday and Christmas.

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

Why should I stfu when you’re literally proving my point? If your dad was alive you’d presumably want a relationship with him. If op wants to have a relationship with his daughter he should be putting in some effort. I’d rather no father than an abusive AH who blows up and gets “irrationally angry” about missing a few phone calls.

You should STFU because those of us missing our dads don't need to be lectured on how to feel about it. And we certainly don't need to hear some AH popping off about how it's NBD. But, if you want to prove to the world how big of a beyotch you are, I won't stop you.

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

DP here. That's nice. My dad is in his 70's, still healthy. Travels multiple times a year to see a good friend of his. Never visits me or his grandkids two hours away. Last time we visited we stayed with my Aunt and he stopped by for an hour max. He hadn't seen his grandchildren in a year. He texts me twice a year on my birthday and Christmas.

Well, my dad loved me.

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

DP here. That's nice. My dad is in his 70's, still healthy. Travels multiple times a year to see a good friend of his. Never visits me or his grandkids two hours away. Last time we visited we stayed with my Aunt and he stopped by for an hour max. He hadn't seen his grandchildren in a year. He texts me twice a year on my birthday and Christmas.

Well, my dad loved me.

But he didn’t have a chance to teach you manners apparently.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

Why should I stfu when you’re literally proving my point? If your dad was alive you’d presumably want a relationship with him. If op wants to have a relationship with his daughter he should be putting in some effort. I’d rather no father than an abusive AH who blows up and gets “irrationally angry” about missing a few phone calls.

You should STFU because those of us missing our dads don't need to be lectured on how to feel about it. And we certainly don't need to hear some AH popping off about how it's NBD. But, if you want to prove to the world how big of a beyotch you are, I won't stop you.

Lol. Telling anon people on the internet to stfu sounds a bit crazy town. Maybe that’s enough internet for you today? Don’t want you getting too worked up over something that happened… 36 years ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unless there grandma has been mean to the wife and/or the daughter, the wife is being a sh*tty mother by interfering here. Purposely scheduling errands during the call is interfering. It’s a parents’ job to help kids keep relationships with extended family — even your spouse’s family.

No, it’s not a woman’s job to help kids keep relationships with the man’s mother. He has two hands and a phone, seems perfectly capable of doing it himself - this does not require a vagina!

I expect my husband to facilitate relationships (and definitely not interfere) with my parents. Sounds like you live in a house with low expectations and no team work.

Yeah I’m sure your husband is off shuttling the kids over to your mom’s house and doing whatever they need while you… sit at home and do nothing? Like op is doing? Gmafb 🙄

He does; just like his father did for him. I’m sorry it sounds like you live in an unsupportive house without team work.

But OP’s wife needs to do even less - she needs to leave her HS at home to run errands.

What’s hs

Her HS aged daughter

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

Why should I stfu when you’re literally proving my point? If your dad was alive you’d presumably want a relationship with him. If op wants to have a relationship with his daughter he should be putting in some effort. I’d rather no father than an abusive AH who blows up and gets “irrationally angry” about missing a few phone calls.

You should STFU because those of us missing our dads don't need to be lectured on how to feel about it. And we certainly don't need to hear some AH popping off about how it's NBD. But, if you want to prove to the world how big of a beyotch you are, I won't stop you.

Literally 1/4 kids in the USA grow up without a father. You aren’t more special than the other tens of millions of people.

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

Why should I stfu when you’re literally proving my point? If your dad was alive you’d presumably want a relationship with him. If op wants to have a relationship with his daughter he should be putting in some effort. I’d rather no father than an abusive AH who blows up and gets “irrationally angry” about missing a few phone calls.

You should STFU because those of us missing our dads don't need to be lectured on how to feel about it. And we certainly don't need to hear some AH popping off about how it's NBD. But, if you want to prove to the world how big of a beyotch you are, I won't stop you.

Lol. Telling anon people on the internet to stfu sounds a bit crazy town. Maybe that’s enough internet for you today? Don’t want you getting too worked up over something that happened… 36 years ago.

<to the class>

Should I tell her the irony or see if she can figure it out?

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

DP here. That's nice. My dad is in his 70's, still healthy. Travels multiple times a year to see a good friend of his. Never visits me or his grandkids two hours away. Last time we visited we stayed with my Aunt and he stopped by for an hour max. He hadn't seen his grandchildren in a year. He texts me twice a year on my birthday and Christmas.

Well, my dad loved me.

But he didn’t have a chance to teach you manners apparently.

Rich, coming from a person who writes "That's nice" in response to PP saying she lost her dad at 8.

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

DP here. That's nice. My dad is in his 70's, still healthy. Travels multiple times a year to see a good friend of his. Never visits me or his grandkids two hours away. Last time we visited we stayed with my Aunt and he stopped by for an hour max. He hadn't seen his grandchildren in a year. He texts me twice a year on my birthday and Christmas.

Well, my dad loved me.

But he didn’t have a chance to teach you manners apparently.

Rich, coming from a person who writes "That's nice" in response to PP saying she lost her dad at 8.

+1

To be fair, I'd rather lose a dad that loved me than have one that never did.