Spouse Lets DD Ghost My Mother

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

DP here. That's nice. My dad is in his 70's, still healthy. Travels multiple times a year to see a good friend of his. Never visits me or his grandkids two hours away. Last time we visited we stayed with my Aunt and he stopped by for an hour max. He hadn't seen his grandchildren in a year. He texts me twice a year on my birthday and Christmas.

Well, my dad loved me.

But he didn’t have a chance to teach you manners apparently.

Rich, coming from a person who writes "That's nice" in response to PP saying she lost her dad at 8.

+1

To be fair, I'd rather lose a dad that loved me than have one that never did.

To be fair, I thought my dad loved me when I was 8 too. If that was frozen in time for me, I’m sure I’d still think it too.

It's not surprising a moron like you can't employ deductive reasoning, but here it is spelled out:

knowing that at a point in time your dad loves you > knowing your whole life that your dad doesn't give a f about you.

Is it rude to say I understand why he doesn't even like you?

Your dead dad would so ashamed of how you’re behaving right now.

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

DP here. That's nice. My dad is in his 70's, still healthy. Travels multiple times a year to see a good friend of his. Never visits me or his grandkids two hours away. Last time we visited we stayed with my Aunt and he stopped by for an hour max. He hadn't seen his grandchildren in a year. He texts me twice a year on my birthday and Christmas.

Well, my dad loved me.

But he didn’t have a chance to teach you manners apparently.

Rich, coming from a person who writes "That's nice" in response to PP saying she lost her dad at 8.

+1

To be fair, I'd rather lose a dad that loved me than have one that never did.

To be fair, I thought my dad loved me when I was 8 too. If that was frozen in time for me, I’m sure I’d still think it too.

It's not surprising a moron like you can't employ deductive reasoning, but here it is spelled out:

knowing that at a point in time your dad loves you > knowing your whole life that your dad doesn't give a f about you.

Is it rude to say I understand why he doesn't even like you?

Your dead dad would so ashamed of how you’re behaving right now.

Imagine thinking that being cruel like this to someone you don't even know was a sign of strength.

Internet culture is a disease. Learn how to disagree without being a dick.

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Anonymous wrote:If Grandma or Dad's disdain for the teenager is anything like the comments on this thread, I can totally understand why she would want nothing to do with either of them.

Literally nowhere was any disdain shown for the girl. Stop making shit up.

She's been called a brat dozens of times, and the wife was called a c*nt for not participating in the madness.

Follow the thread.

"in the madness"

Talking to grandma for 5 minutes is "madness"

Boy, you have lost the plot.

Forcing kids to make phone calls is pretty mental behavior.

Forcing them so hard/so often that it blows up your family is madness, yes.

Therapy for everyone involved, stat.

So by your logic, virtual learning is 'mental behavior'

Keep digging!

We can almost see you frothing.

Just.. need..... to.... push.... you..... over... the... edge.

I honestly wish you could see me right now. I'm far from "frothing". I am slightly confused as to what would motivate someone to behave the way you're behaving, but mostly just glad you're not my kid and therefore not my problem.

We? What we? The voices in your head telling you to keep this thread going, even at the cost of your own sanity? I mean, you can. Until/unless Jeff stops you (for the record, I'm not even reporting your stupid mess, which is what's usually required to get his attention for stuff like this).

Nothing on DCUM will ever "push.... (me).... over... the... edge." because I know how to log off. You might want to try it. There's a whole, weird, wild world out there.

You keep insisting it's just one person replying to you, but I assure you there are many. Report it and find out. Thats how outrageous you are.

And give you the attention you're so desperately seeking? nah. Report yourself for maximum trollolols.

"Based" (or something; not sure how this works in your culture)

Then stop giving me attention and STFU already.

So you admit that the last several pages are just... you. Mostly talking to yourself?

I feel bad for you. You're like the kid who didn't have anybody to sit with at lunch. it's tragic.

You said you don't want to give me attention, yet here you are again. What can I do for you? You didn't get enough attention as a child? Maybe you should have called your grandmother more?

I never said that. I don't have a whole lot of attention to give you, but I actually do have some time today.

Would you like to talk about what made you this way? What you're hoping to gain from continuing to tell on yourself like this?

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

DP here. That's nice. My dad is in his 70's, still healthy. Travels multiple times a year to see a good friend of his. Never visits me or his grandkids two hours away. Last time we visited we stayed with my Aunt and he stopped by for an hour max. He hadn't seen his grandchildren in a year. He texts me twice a year on my birthday and Christmas.

Well, my dad loved me.

But he didn’t have a chance to teach you manners apparently.

Rich, coming from a person who writes "That's nice" in response to PP saying she lost her dad at 8.

+1

To be fair, I'd rather lose a dad that loved me than have one that never did.

To be fair, I thought my dad loved me when I was 8 too. If that was frozen in time for me, I’m sure I’d still think it too.

It's not surprising a moron like you can't employ deductive reasoning, but here it is spelled out:

knowing that at a point in time your dad loves you > knowing your whole life that your dad doesn't give a f about you.

Is it rude to say I understand why he doesn't even like you?

Your dead dad would so ashamed of how you’re behaving right now.

Imagine thinking that being cruel like this to someone you don't even know was a sign of strength.

Internet culture is a disease. Learn how to disagree without being a dick.

Pp can dish it out but can’t take it? Maybe if pp didn’t call everyone a moron who’s dad never loved them or liked them I’d have a little more sympathy. But s/he sounds unhinged.

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

DP here. That's nice. My dad is in his 70's, still healthy. Travels multiple times a year to see a good friend of his. Never visits me or his grandkids two hours away. Last time we visited we stayed with my Aunt and he stopped by for an hour max. He hadn't seen his grandchildren in a year. He texts me twice a year on my birthday and Christmas.

Well, my dad loved me.

But he didn’t have a chance to teach you manners apparently.

Rich, coming from a person who writes "That's nice" in response to PP saying she lost her dad at 8.

+1

To be fair, I'd rather lose a dad that loved me than have one that never did.

To be fair, I thought my dad loved me when I was 8 too. If that was frozen in time for me, I’m sure I’d still think it too.

It's not surprising a moron like you can't employ deductive reasoning, but here it is spelled out:

knowing that at a point in time your dad loves you > knowing your whole life that your dad doesn't give a f about you.

Is it rude to say I understand why he doesn't even like you?

Your dead dad would so ashamed of how you’re behaving right now.

Imagine thinking that being cruel like this to someone you don't even know was a sign of strength.

Internet culture is a disease. Learn how to disagree without being a dick.

Pp can dish it out but can’t take it? Maybe if pp didn’t call everyone a moron who’s dad never loved them or liked them I’d have a little more sympathy. But s/he sounds unhinged.

DP, oh honey, you deserve whatever she dished out. Don't cry foul now. You started it.

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

DP here. That's nice. My dad is in his 70's, still healthy. Travels multiple times a year to see a good friend of his. Never visits me or his grandkids two hours away. Last time we visited we stayed with my Aunt and he stopped by for an hour max. He hadn't seen his grandchildren in a year. He texts me twice a year on my birthday and Christmas.

Well, my dad loved me.

But he didn’t have a chance to teach you manners apparently.

Rich, coming from a person who writes "That's nice" in response to PP saying she lost her dad at 8.

+1

To be fair, I'd rather lose a dad that loved me than have one that never did.

To be fair, I thought my dad loved me when I was 8 too. If that was frozen in time for me, I’m sure I’d still think it too.

It's not surprising a moron like you can't employ deductive reasoning, but here it is spelled out:

knowing that at a point in time your dad loves you > knowing your whole life that your dad doesn't give a f about you.

Is it rude to say I understand why he doesn't even like you?

Your dead dad would so ashamed of how you’re behaving right now.

Imagine thinking that being cruel like this to someone you don't even know was a sign of strength.

Internet culture is a disease. Learn how to disagree without being a dick.

Pp can dish it out but can’t take it? Maybe if pp didn’t call everyone a moron who’s dad never loved them or liked them I’d have a little more sympathy. But s/he sounds unhinged.

DP, oh honey, you deserve whatever she dished out. Don't cry foul now. You started it.

Ugh you think you’re so clever calling people “honey”, just further proving you’re another sexist granny. You think DD and wife should just bow down to whatever DH and mommy want, approve of him blowing up at his female family members but heaven forbid granny call at an alternate time or miss a week!

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Anonymous wrote:My Mother is 81, lives alone and has 4 grandkids. Two from me and two from my brother. In addition to our DD, we have a DS. My mother likes weekly calls/face time with them. My son participates happily but my daughter is 'annoyed' by the calls and tries to skip them. I don't allow her to skip them, but my wife does. She'll go so far as to 'forget' to be home with my DD while running errands, schedule conflicting appointments, etc. She will happily 'defend' my DD's objections when I challenge her non participation. Basically, she is complicit and I am irrationally angry over this. Am I wrong?

Grandma and mom doesn't get along and DD stands with her own mother not yours? Your irrational anger towards her mother would ruin your relationship with your own daughter.

This. Pay attention, OP. Your relationship with your kid is gonna be around a lot longer than your relationship with your mom.

DD will need her dad a lot more than he needs her in the next 10 years. The wife is a fool for not seeing this. Stand offs like this are how estrangements begin. Hope the little brat is ready for a life without a dad.

Millions of kids grow up without a dad. Millions of kids grow up without grandparents. It’s not some sort of death sentence. And op should care about maintaining a relationship with his daughter as she ages, seems like she is fine hanging with her mom so he’s going to get pushed to the side pretty quick unless HE puts in some effort.

My dad died when I was 8. I've missed him, daily, for 36 years. You can kindly, STFU. I would strongly recommend keeping thoughts like this to yourself. There are lots and lots of people like me out there.

DP here. That's nice. My dad is in his 70's, still healthy. Travels multiple times a year to see a good friend of his. Never visits me or his grandkids two hours away. Last time we visited we stayed with my Aunt and he stopped by for an hour max. He hadn't seen his grandchildren in a year. He texts me twice a year on my birthday and Christmas.

Well, my dad loved me.

But he didn’t have a chance to teach you manners apparently.

Rich, coming from a person who writes "That's nice" in response to PP saying she lost her dad at 8.

+1

To be fair, I'd rather lose a dad that loved me than have one that never did.

To be fair, I thought my dad loved me when I was 8 too. If that was frozen in time for me, I’m sure I’d still think it too.

It's not surprising a moron like you can't employ deductive reasoning, but here it is spelled out:

knowing that at a point in time your dad loves you > knowing your whole life that your dad doesn't give a f about you.

Is it rude to say I understand why he doesn't even like you?

Your dead dad would so ashamed of how you’re behaving right now.

Imagine thinking that being cruel like this to someone you don't even know was a sign of strength.

Internet culture is a disease. Learn how to disagree without being a dick.

You are the disease. No wonder you need to force your own family to call you. Toxic af.