Rs are terminally out of touch with normal people

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

A whole bunch of the conservatives have come out against child beauty pageants. They are completely willing to ban those if that’s what gets heavily sexualized material away from kids.

Sure.

But let’s be clear that a drag queen reading books to children does not constitute “sexualized material.” But cons won’t admit it because they think drag queens are per se immoral.

Parents are taking their kids to drag queen shows and there is plenty of video out there showing the inappropriate sexual stuff these kids are exposed to. There is a video posted here on the previous page. How can anyone defend that??

That was not drag queen story hour. And I have never seen a video of sexually inappropriate material at a drag queen story hour.

Some of us can understand the difference. Apparently it’s hard for others.

Why is no one hosting stripper story hour? Because it would be inappropriate, right? Drag queen isn't a gender identity. It's biologically male stripper using feminine sexuality to titillate.

The fact that you equate drag queens with strippers shows how ignorant you are of the drag world.

I mean please. Have you actually ever taken a close look at real drag queens???

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

Parade organizers go out of their way to organize these parades as family friendly. And stop with the whataboutism

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

A parent can turn off all those things

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

A whole bunch of the conservatives have come out against child beauty pageants. They are completely willing to ban those if that’s what gets heavily sexualized material away from kids.

Sure.

But let’s be clear that a drag queen reading books to children does not constitute “sexualized material.” But cons won’t admit it because they think drag queens are per se immoral.

Why the sudden desire to do this?

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

The BTK killer is a white cishet man that was very religious and integrated into his church. They found him because the floppy was traced back to the church computer. Why are all religious people supporting serial killers? You can’t pick and choose. You go to church, you support murderers.

Again, it’s a LGBTQ pride parade. When a Catholic Church holds parades celebrating murderers, please let me know.

Christians go to church every week.

And when they have a Christian pride parade that celebrates murderers openly complete with mock murder demonstrations of kids, please let me know.

Not sure about murderers, but Christians sure do have a lot of child predators in their ranks. If we are serious about protecting children, shouldn't Congress be creating laws that ban children from being alone with priests and youth pastors? I mean from reading these, it seems that church is a wholly inappropriate place for children to be:

https://www.crimrxiv.com/pub/p1afmq2i/release/1
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article269943867.html#
https://www.pennlive.com/news/erry-2018/05/5e56fa19a94444/child_sex_crimes_catholic_prie.html
https://apnews.com/article/catholic-clergy-sexual-abuse-illinois-investigation-a298133cec9486c2e51172316bfe7b4b

False equivalence. And nice try switching the subject away. There are many child predators at the border in the cartels, so by your logic, all immigration should be stopped and we should build the wall. MAGA!

Why is this a false equivalence? Because it doesn't suit your fictious narrative that trans and drag queens are the leading cause of sexual abuse for children?

There's more bad news too:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/louisiana-lawmakers-reject-bill-set-minimum-marriage-age-n1013356
https://www.newsweek.com/idaho-congress-blocks-bill-end-child-marriage-1348919
https://www.newsweek.com/wyoming-ending-child-marriage-sparks-republican-outrage-1780501
https://apnews.com/article/sex-abuse-catholic-church-mormon-5d78129a2fe666159a22ce71323f6da3
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-church-lawsuit/seventh-day-adventist-church-sued-over-allegations-of-abuse-in-youth-program-idUSKBN0GR02J20140827

Care to respond to these? Or are you just going to deflect? Because it's never about protecting the kids.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

A parent can turn off all those things

Just as a parent can decide not to take kids to events they consider inappropriate for them.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

A whole bunch of the conservatives have come out against child beauty pageants. They are completely willing to ban those if that’s what gets heavily sexualized material away from kids.

Sure.

But let’s be clear that a drag queen reading books to children does not constitute “sexualized material.” But cons won’t admit it because they think drag queens are per se immoral.

Why the sudden desire to do this?

Not the Pp you replied to here. I have questions for you. Do you consider a man medically transitioning to a woman or a woman medically transitioning to a man is itself sexually explicit? Do you consider a trans person around children, dressed like an average person of the gender they’re transitioning to, grooming? Do you think parents that are transgender should have children removed from their home?

Also, do you think it’s in appropriate and sexually explicit for two women to hold hands in public or two men to kiss?

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

A whole bunch of the conservatives have come out against child beauty pageants. They are completely willing to ban those if that’s what gets heavily sexualized material away from kids.

Sure.

But let’s be clear that a drag queen reading books to children does not constitute “sexualized material.” But cons won’t admit it because they think drag queens are per se immoral.

Why the sudden desire to do this?

Not the Pp you replied to here. I have questions for you.

I’m one of the PPs who is against guns and sterilization/medicalization of kids.

Do you consider a man medically transitioning to a woman or a woman medically transitioning to a man is itself sexually explicit?

No.

Do you consider a trans person around children, dressed like an average person of the gender they’re transitioning to, grooming?

Depends on the context. Just going around their daily lives, no. Going to child support groups and joining youth groups to try to encourage kids to transition, yes.

Do you think parents that are transgender should have children removed from their home?

That should almost never happen, but I think the bar for removal of kids has to be very high in general (abuse). I do think some parents who push their kids into transitioning and taking medication (and some have openly talked about this) qualify as abusive.

Also, do you think it’s in appropriate and sexually explicit for two women to hold hands in public or two men to kiss?

No. Actually I think it is very sweet.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

A whole bunch of the conservatives have come out against child beauty pageants. They are completely willing to ban those if that’s what gets heavily sexualized material away from kids.

Sure.

But let’s be clear that a drag queen reading books to children does not constitute “sexualized material.” But cons won’t admit it because they think drag queens are per se immoral.

Why the sudden desire to do this?

Not the Pp you replied to here. I have questions for you.

I’m one of the PPs who is against guns and sterilization/medicalization of kids.

Do you consider a man medically transitioning to a woman or a woman medically transitioning to a man is itself sexually explicit?

No.

Do you consider a trans person around children, dressed like an average person of the gender they’re transitioning to, grooming?

Depends on the context. Just going around their daily lives, no. Going to child support groups and joining youth groups to try to encourage kids to transition, yes.

Do you think parents that are transgender should have children removed from their home?

That should almost never happen, but I think the bar for removal of kids has to be very high in general (abuse). I do think some parents who push their kids into transitioning and taking medication (and some have openly talked about this) qualify as abusive.

Also, do you think it’s in appropriate and sexually explicit for two women to hold hands in public or two men to kiss?

No. Actually I think it is very sweet.

One addition to this: I don’t consider people like Dylan Mulvaney to be grooming, but I do consider Dylan to be demonstrating and engaging in terrible sexism and misogyny. I think that’s true of a lot of drag queens as well: they rely on grossly harmful stereotypes of women for entertainment.

It is not grooming. It is horrific sexism and misogyny, though.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

A whole bunch of the conservatives have come out against child beauty pageants. They are completely willing to ban those if that’s what gets heavily sexualized material away from kids.

Sure.

But let’s be clear that a drag queen reading books to children does not constitute “sexualized material.” But cons won’t admit it because they think drag queens are per se immoral.

Why the sudden desire to do this?

Not the Pp you replied to here. I have questions for you.

I’m one of the PPs who is against guns and sterilization/medicalization of kids.

Do you consider a man medically transitioning to a woman or a woman medically transitioning to a man is itself sexually explicit?

No.

Do you consider a trans person around children, dressed like an average person of the gender they’re transitioning to, grooming?

Depends on the context. Just going around their daily lives, no. Going to child support groups and joining youth groups to try to encourage kids to transition, yes.

Do you think parents that are transgender should have children removed from their home?

That should almost never happen, but I think the bar for removal of kids has to be very high in general (abuse). I do think some parents who push their kids into transitioning and taking medication (and some have openly talked about this) qualify as abusive.

Also, do you think it’s in appropriate and sexually explicit for two women to hold hands in public or two men to kiss?

No. Actually I think it is very sweet.

Another pp who is also in favor of protecting kids from both guns and sex. I agree with all of this pp's answers. Also, I think it's bizarre that the far left doesn't conceive of trans or gay people as being normal people with normal morals. I actually think it's a bad faith way to normalize sex abuse of kids. Gay people and trans people don't require children to observe them in various stages of kink any more than straight people-- that is to say, not at all.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

The BTK killer is a white cishet man that was very religious and integrated into his church. They found him because the floppy was traced back to the church computer. Why are all religious people supporting serial killers? You can’t pick and choose. You go to church, you support murderers.

Again, it’s a LGBTQ pride parade. When a Catholic Church holds parades celebrating murderers, please let me know.

Christians go to church every week.

And when they have a Christian pride parade that celebrates murderers openly complete with mock murder demonstrations of kids, please let me know.

Not sure about murderers, but Christians sure do have a lot of child predators in their ranks. If we are serious about protecting children, shouldn't Congress be creating laws that ban children from being alone with priests and youth pastors? I mean from reading these, it seems that church is a wholly inappropriate place for children to be:

https://www.crimrxiv.com/pub/p1afmq2i/release/1
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article269943867.html#
https://www.pennlive.com/news/erry-2018/05/5e56fa19a94444/child_sex_crimes_catholic_prie.html
https://apnews.com/article/catholic-clergy-sexual-abuse-illinois-investigation-a298133cec9486c2e51172316bfe7b4b

False equivalence. And nice try switching the subject away. There are many child predators at the border in the cartels, so by your logic, all immigration should be stopped and we should build the wall. MAGA!

Why is this a false equivalence? Because it doesn't suit your fictious narrative that trans and drag queens are the leading cause of sexual abuse for children?

There's more bad news too:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/louisiana-lawmakers-reject-bill-set-minimum-marriage-age-n1013356
https://www.newsweek.com/idaho-congress-blocks-bill-end-child-marriage-1348919
https://www.newsweek.com/wyoming-ending-child-marriage-sparks-republican-outrage-1780501
https://apnews.com/article/sex-abuse-catholic-church-mormon-5d78129a2fe666159a22ce71323f6da3
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-church-lawsuit/seventh-day-adventist-church-sued-over-allegations-of-abuse-in-youth-program-idUSKBN0GR02J20140827

Care to respond to these? Or are you just going to deflect? Because it's never about protecting the kids.

So, being trans or drag has nothing to do with exposing children to sexual activity right? So we can keep kids away from sexual activities involving trans and drag people, and that's not bigotry, because it is normal and desirable to shelter children from sexual things like strip clubs and fetish gatherings. Can we all agree on this, without qualification?

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

The BTK killer is a white cishet man that was very religious and integrated into his church. They found him because the floppy was traced back to the church computer. Why are all religious people supporting serial killers? You can’t pick and choose. You go to church, you support murderers.

Again, it’s a LGBTQ pride parade. When a Catholic Church holds parades celebrating murderers, please let me know.

Christians go to church every week.

And when they have a Christian pride parade that celebrates murderers openly complete with mock murder demonstrations of kids, please let me know.

Not sure about murderers, but Christians sure do have a lot of child predators in their ranks. If we are serious about protecting children, shouldn't Congress be creating laws that ban children from being alone with priests and youth pastors? I mean from reading these, it seems that church is a wholly inappropriate place for children to be:

https://www.crimrxiv.com/pub/p1afmq2i/release/1
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article269943867.html#
https://www.pennlive.com/news/erry-2018/05/5e56fa19a94444/child_sex_crimes_catholic_prie.html
https://apnews.com/article/catholic-clergy-sexual-abuse-illinois-investigation-a298133cec9486c2e51172316bfe7b4b

False equivalence. And nice try switching the subject away. There are many child predators at the border in the cartels, so by your logic, all immigration should be stopped and we should build the wall. MAGA!

Why is this a false equivalence? Because it doesn't suit your fictious narrative that trans and drag queens are the leading cause of sexual abuse for children?

There's more bad news too:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/louisiana-lawmakers-reject-bill-set-minimum-marriage-age-n1013356
https://www.newsweek.com/idaho-congress-blocks-bill-end-child-marriage-1348919
https://www.newsweek.com/wyoming-ending-child-marriage-sparks-republican-outrage-1780501
https://apnews.com/article/sex-abuse-catholic-church-mormon-5d78129a2fe666159a22ce71323f6da3
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-church-lawsuit/seventh-day-adventist-church-sued-over-allegations-of-abuse-in-youth-program-idUSKBN0GR02J20140827

Care to respond to these? Or are you just going to deflect? Because it's never about protecting the kids.

So, being trans or drag has nothing to do with exposing children to sexual activity right? So we can keep kids away from sexual activities involving trans and drag people, and that's not bigotry, because it is normal and desirable to shelter children from sexual things like strip clubs and fetish gatherings. Can we all agree on this, without qualification?

Drag is fundamentally about exaggerating stereotypes (very often but not always sexual stereotypes) of an oppressed class of people by an oppressor class for entertainment. For this reason, drag should not be promoted to children by the state. If parents want to expose their children to men appropriating harmful stereotypes of women, that is their choice as parents.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

The BTK killer is a white cishet man that was very religious and integrated into his church. They found him because the floppy was traced back to the church computer. Why are all religious people supporting serial killers? You can’t pick and choose. You go to church, you support murderers.

Again, it’s a LGBTQ pride parade. When a Catholic Church holds parades celebrating murderers, please let me know.

Christians go to church every week.

And when they have a Christian pride parade that celebrates murderers openly complete with mock murder demonstrations of kids, please let me know.

Not sure about murderers, but Christians sure do have a lot of child predators in their ranks. If we are serious about protecting children, shouldn't Congress be creating laws that ban children from being alone with priests and youth pastors? I mean from reading these, it seems that church is a wholly inappropriate place for children to be:

https://www.crimrxiv.com/pub/p1afmq2i/release/1
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article269943867.html#
https://www.pennlive.com/news/erry-2018/05/5e56fa19a94444/child_sex_crimes_catholic_prie.html
https://apnews.com/article/catholic-clergy-sexual-abuse-illinois-investigation-a298133cec9486c2e51172316bfe7b4b

False equivalence. And nice try switching the subject away. There are many child predators at the border in the cartels, so by your logic, all immigration should be stopped and we should build the wall. MAGA!

Why is this a false equivalence? Because it doesn't suit your fictious narrative that trans and drag queens are the leading cause of sexual abuse for children?

There's more bad news too:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/louisiana-lawmakers-reject-bill-set-minimum-marriage-age-n1013356
https://www.newsweek.com/idaho-congress-blocks-bill-end-child-marriage-1348919
https://www.newsweek.com/wyoming-ending-child-marriage-sparks-republican-outrage-1780501
https://apnews.com/article/sex-abuse-catholic-church-mormon-5d78129a2fe666159a22ce71323f6da3
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-church-lawsuit/seventh-day-adventist-church-sued-over-allegations-of-abuse-in-youth-program-idUSKBN0GR02J20140827

Care to respond to these? Or are you just going to deflect? Because it's never about protecting the kids.

So, being trans or drag has nothing to do with exposing children to sexual activity right? So we can keep kids away from sexual activities involving trans and drag people, and that's not bigotry, because it is normal and desirable to shelter children from sexual things like strip clubs and fetish gatherings. Can we all agree on this, without qualification?

I agree, at least in nearly all instances. There have been examples of drag queens using DQSH for inappropriate purposes, but there are also many examples of straight men using children’s activities for inappropriate purposes, so I don’t think it’s fair to tar all drag queens that way.

My issue with DQSH is that it teaches children, particularly girls, that mocking women and particularly women’s physical appearances is acceptable behavior by men. Drag degrades women. DQSH is deeply regressive sexism at heart and I do not think it’s healthy for children, especially girls. It teaches girls that mocking women for being women, particularly older women, is fine so long as men are doing it.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

The BTK killer is a white cishet man that was very religious and integrated into his church. They found him because the floppy was traced back to the church computer. Why are all religious people supporting serial killers? You can’t pick and choose. You go to church, you support murderers.

Again, it’s a LGBTQ pride parade. When a Catholic Church holds parades celebrating murderers, please let me know.

Christians go to church every week.

And when they have a Christian pride parade that celebrates murderers openly complete with mock murder demonstrations of kids, please let me know.

Not sure about murderers, but Christians sure do have a lot of child predators in their ranks. If we are serious about protecting children, shouldn't Congress be creating laws that ban children from being alone with priests and youth pastors? I mean from reading these, it seems that church is a wholly inappropriate place for children to be:

https://www.crimrxiv.com/pub/p1afmq2i/release/1
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article269943867.html#
https://www.pennlive.com/news/erry-2018/05/5e56fa19a94444/child_sex_crimes_catholic_prie.html
https://apnews.com/article/catholic-clergy-sexual-abuse-illinois-investigation-a298133cec9486c2e51172316bfe7b4b

False equivalence. And nice try switching the subject away. There are many child predators at the border in the cartels, so by your logic, all immigration should be stopped and we should build the wall. MAGA!

Why is this a false equivalence? Because it doesn't suit your fictious narrative that trans and drag queens are the leading cause of sexual abuse for children?

There's more bad news too:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/louisiana-lawmakers-reject-bill-set-minimum-marriage-age-n1013356
https://www.newsweek.com/idaho-congress-blocks-bill-end-child-marriage-1348919
https://www.newsweek.com/wyoming-ending-child-marriage-sparks-republican-outrage-1780501
https://apnews.com/article/sex-abuse-catholic-church-mormon-5d78129a2fe666159a22ce71323f6da3
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-church-lawsuit/seventh-day-adventist-church-sued-over-allegations-of-abuse-in-youth-program-idUSKBN0GR02J20140827

Care to respond to these? Or are you just going to deflect? Because it's never about protecting the kids.

So, being trans or drag has nothing to do with exposing children to sexual activity right? So we can keep kids away from sexual activities involving trans and drag people, and that's not bigotry, because it is normal and desirable to shelter children from sexual things like strip clubs and fetish gatherings. Can we all agree on this, without qualification?

Drag is fundamentally about exaggerating stereotypes (very often but not always sexual stereotypes) of an oppressed class of people by an oppressor class for entertainment. For this reason, drag should not be promoted to children by the state. If parents want to expose their children to men appropriating harmful stereotypes of women, that is their choice as parents.

Very well said. It is the sexism and misogyny at issue here.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

The BTK killer is a white cishet man that was very religious and integrated into his church. They found him because the floppy was traced back to the church computer. Why are all religious people supporting serial killers? You can’t pick and choose. You go to church, you support murderers.

Again, it’s a LGBTQ pride parade. When a Catholic Church holds parades celebrating murderers, please let me know.

Christians go to church every week.

And when they have a Christian pride parade that celebrates murderers openly complete with mock murder demonstrations of kids, please let me know.

Not sure about murderers, but Christians sure do have a lot of child predators in their ranks. If we are serious about protecting children, shouldn't Congress be creating laws that ban children from being alone with priests and youth pastors? I mean from reading these, it seems that church is a wholly inappropriate place for children to be:

https://www.crimrxiv.com/pub/p1afmq2i/release/1
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article269943867.html#
https://www.pennlive.com/news/erry-2018/05/5e56fa19a94444/child_sex_crimes_catholic_prie.html
https://apnews.com/article/catholic-clergy-sexual-abuse-illinois-investigation-a298133cec9486c2e51172316bfe7b4b

False equivalence. And nice try switching the subject away. There are many child predators at the border in the cartels, so by your logic, all immigration should be stopped and we should build the wall. MAGA!

Why is this a false equivalence? Because it doesn't suit your fictious narrative that trans and drag queens are the leading cause of sexual abuse for children?

There's more bad news too:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/louisiana-lawmakers-reject-bill-set-minimum-marriage-age-n1013356
https://www.newsweek.com/idaho-congress-blocks-bill-end-child-marriage-1348919
https://www.newsweek.com/wyoming-ending-child-marriage-sparks-republican-outrage-1780501
https://apnews.com/article/sex-abuse-catholic-church-mormon-5d78129a2fe666159a22ce71323f6da3
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-church-lawsuit/seventh-day-adventist-church-sued-over-allegations-of-abuse-in-youth-program-idUSKBN0GR02J20140827

Care to respond to these? Or are you just going to deflect? Because it's never about protecting the kids.

So, being trans or drag has nothing to do with exposing children to sexual activity right? So we can keep kids away from sexual activities involving trans and drag people, and that's not bigotry, because it is normal and desirable to shelter children from sexual things like strip clubs and fetish gatherings. Can we all agree on this, without qualification?

I agree, at least in nearly all instances. There have been examples of drag queens using DQSH for inappropriate purposes, but there are also many examples of straight men using children’s activities for inappropriate purposes, so I don’t think it’s fair to tar all drag queens that way.

My issue with DQSH is that it teaches children, particularly girls, that mocking women and particularly women’s physical appearances is acceptable behavior by men. Drag degrades women. DQSH is deeply regressive sexism at heart and I do not think it’s healthy for children, especially girls. It teaches girls that mocking women for being women, particularly older women, is fine so long as men are doing it.

If it were only straight men who were doing drag then perhaps you'd have a point. But as we all know, drag queens are typically gay men who likewise traditionally constitute an oppressed group of people. And if you actually meet and talk to drag queens you'd see that they are not "mocking" women. That is a right wing talking point. It is on you if you think that a drag queen is "mocking" women.

Also I think it's telling that people like you never bring up women who dress in a stereotypical masculine way. Is that "mocking" men? And many women performers adopt a kind of "drag queen" persona. Just look at Dolly Parton.

https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/the-joy-of-drag