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Holy $hit.  If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is.  Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others. [/quote]
I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

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I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe. [/quote]

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.[/quote]

What does that video have to do with trans people?  [/quote]

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate. [/quote]

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

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A whole bunch of the conservatives have come out against child beauty pageants. They are completely willing to ban those if that’s what gets heavily sexualized material away from kids. [/quote]

Sure.

But let’s be clear that a drag queen reading books to children does not constitute “sexualized material.”  But cons won’t admit it because they think drag queens are per se immoral. [/quote]

Why the sudden desire to do this?[/quote]

Not the Pp you replied to here.  I have questions for you.  [/quote]

I’m one of the PPs who is against guns and sterilization/medicalization of kids.

Do you consider a man medically transitioning to a woman or a woman medically transitioning to a man is itself sexually explicit?

[b]No.[/b]

Do you consider a trans person around children, dressed like an average person of the gender they’re transitioning to, grooming?

[b]Depends on the context. Just going around their daily lives, no. Going to child support groups and joining youth groups to try to encourage kids to transition, yes.[/b]

Do you think parents that are transgender should have children removed from their home?

[b]That should almost never happen, but I think the bar for removal of kids has to be very high in general (abuse). I do think some parents who push their kids into transitioning and taking medication (and some have openly talked about this) qualify as abusive.[/b]

Also, do you think it’s in appropriate and sexually explicit for two women to hold hands in public or two men to kiss?

[b]No. Actually I think it is very sweet. [/b][/quote]

Another pp who is also in favor of protecting kids from both guns and sex. I agree with all of this pp's answers. Also, I think it's bizarre that the far left doesn't conceive of trans or gay people as being normal people with normal morals.  I actually think it's a bad faith way to normalize sex abuse of kids. Gay people and trans people don't require children to observe them in various stages of kink any more than straight people-- that is to say, not at all. [/quote]

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