Rs are terminally out of touch with normal people

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

I would personally be on board with that. However, it sounds like you're saying that you're only willing to scale back on exposing children to sexual activities if we also scale back on exposing them to violence. I would take either/or, I don't really view one as a bargaining chip. I view both as a win.

DP. The issue is that only LGBTQ+ issues, specifically those around trans people, have been criticized and where laws have been passed that restricts what this community can do. Yet, nothing has been done to stop glorifying violence or guns. If anything, republicans seem fine with giving kids access to guns and exposing them to violence, but then get all outraged if a company sells pride merchandise.

If laws are going to be created around restricting drag performances, then why isn't anything being done to address violence and access to guns? This is why people on this thread are saying that Republicans are out of touch and hypocritical.

Hollywood is the most guilty of glorifying gun violence which is obviously filled with liberals. Bill Maher did an excellent monologue about Hollywood's culture of gun violence.

https://youtu.be/Ebg2YnBj9II

Yet, you see this from republicans: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/christmas-card-guns-lauren-boebert-thomas-massie-start-new-culture-ncna1285709

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

I would personally be on board with that. However, it sounds like you're saying that you're only willing to scale back on exposing children to sexual activities if we also scale back on exposing them to violence. I would take either/or, I don't really view one as a bargaining chip. I view both as a win.

DP. The issue is that only LGBTQ+ issues, specifically those around trans people, have been criticized and where laws have been passed that restricts what this community can do. Yet, nothing has been done to stop glorifying violence or guns. If anything, republicans seem fine with giving kids access to guns and exposing them to violence, but then get all outraged if a company sells pride merchandise.

If laws are going to be created around restricting drag performances, then why isn't anything being done to address violence and access to guns? This is why people on this thread are saying that Republicans are out of touch and hypocritical.

I’m the PP whose political issue is protecting the health and wellness of kids. I know you find it politically expedient to classify all people opposed to medicalization of gender dysphoric children and against showing young kids sexualized material as gun-toting MAGA nuts. But there are a lot of people like me, who are pro-gun-control and also against the child-harming aspects of what the trans rights lobby is lobbying for.

Besides which, trans rights activists aren’t really so far from the MAGA gun nuts as you want to think they are. From a protest just a few days ago:

LOL, a weird protestor in London is not the own you think this is. Are you also in favor of bans that prohibit youth pastors and priests from being alone with children? Because the sexual abuse that has been inflicted by churches is far greater than anything a trans person has done.

It would be trivially easy to find worse pro-violence posters from US trans protesters and you know it. I just picked that one because it is recent and making the rounds.

I would 100% be in favor of a ban that prohibits youth pastors and priests from being alone with children. You are correct that there is a great deal of abuse in houses of worship, unfortunately.

You don’t seem to get it: a lot of people, myself included, are appalled at violence and sexual abuse of children across the board. We don’t politicize it: we don’t like it anywhere we find it. We don’t ask “is this perpetrated by a Republican or Democrat?” before we decide whether abuse is bad. I get that you do that, and you’re comfortable with abuse from your side, but a lot of us aren’t.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

A whole bunch of the conservatives have come out against child beauty pageants. They are completely willing to ban those if that’s what gets heavily sexualized material away from kids.

Sure.

But let’s be clear that a drag queen reading books to children does not constitute “sexualized material.” But cons won’t admit it because they think drag queens are per se immoral.

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Also where is the ban against minors going to Hooters? That also needs to be in play. Way worse than Dame Edna reading Dr Seuss to kids.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

I would personally be on board with that. However, it sounds like you're saying that you're only willing to scale back on exposing children to sexual activities if we also scale back on exposing them to violence. I would take either/or, I don't really view one as a bargaining chip. I view both as a win.

DP. The issue is that only LGBTQ+ issues, specifically those around trans people, have been criticized and where laws have been passed that restricts what this community can do. Yet, nothing has been done to stop glorifying violence or guns. If anything, republicans seem fine with giving kids access to guns and exposing them to violence, but then get all outraged if a company sells pride merchandise.

If laws are going to be created around restricting drag performances, then why isn't anything being done to address violence and access to guns? This is why people on this thread are saying that Republicans are out of touch and hypocritical.

I’m the PP whose political issue is protecting the health and wellness of kids. I know you find it politically expedient to classify all people opposed to medicalization of gender dysphoric children and against showing young kids sexualized material as gun-toting MAGA nuts. But there are a lot of people like me, who are pro-gun-control and also against the child-harming aspects of what the trans rights lobby is lobbying for.

Besides which, trans rights activists aren’t really so far from the MAGA gun nuts as you want to think they are. From a protest just a few days ago:

LOL, a weird protestor in London is not the own you think this is. Are you also in favor of bans that prohibit youth pastors and priests from being alone with children? Because the sexual abuse that has been inflicted by churches is far greater than anything a trans person has done.

It would be trivially easy to find worse pro-violence posters from US trans protesters and you know it. I just picked that one because it is recent and making the rounds.

I would 100% be in favor of a ban that prohibits youth pastors and priests from being alone with children. You are correct that there is a great deal of abuse in houses of worship, unfortunately.

You don’t seem to get it: a lot of people, myself included, are appalled at violence and sexual abuse of children across the board. We don’t politicize it: we don’t like it anywhere we find it. We don’t ask “is this perpetrated by a Republican or Democrat?” before we decide whether abuse is bad. I get that you do that, and you’re comfortable with abuse from your side, but a lot of us aren’t.

If you don't "like it anywhere you find it", then by all means please do forth and do something about it. You're wasting time on this board when you should be out demanding these changes from lawmakers on both sides.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

A whole bunch of the conservatives have come out against child beauty pageants. They are completely willing to ban those if that’s what gets heavily sexualized material away from kids.

Sure.

But let’s be clear that a drag queen reading books to children does not constitute “sexualized material.” But cons won’t admit it because they think drag queens are per se immoral.

I’m not going to link to Matt Walsh here but he did a whole segment on how he would be happy to ban child beauty pageants if that got sexualized material away from kids. You can find it if you want though not sure you’d want to give him clicks.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

A whole bunch of the conservatives have come out against child beauty pageants. They are completely willing to ban those if that’s what gets heavily sexualized material away from kids.

Sure.

But let’s be clear that a drag queen reading books to children does not constitute “sexualized material.” But cons won’t admit it because they think drag queens are per se immoral.

Parents are taking their kids to drag queen shows and there is plenty of video out there showing the inappropriate sexual stuff these kids are exposed to. There is a video posted here on the previous page. How can anyone defend that??

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

I would personally be on board with that. However, it sounds like you're saying that you're only willing to scale back on exposing children to sexual activities if we also scale back on exposing them to violence. I would take either/or, I don't really view one as a bargaining chip. I view both as a win.

DP. The issue is that only LGBTQ+ issues, specifically those around trans people, have been criticized and where laws have been passed that restricts what this community can do. Yet, nothing has been done to stop glorifying violence or guns. If anything, republicans seem fine with giving kids access to guns and exposing them to violence, but then get all outraged if a company sells pride merchandise.

If laws are going to be created around restricting drag performances, then why isn't anything being done to address violence and access to guns? This is why people on this thread are saying that Republicans are out of touch and hypocritical.

I’m the PP whose political issue is protecting the health and wellness of kids. I know you find it politically expedient to classify all people opposed to medicalization of gender dysphoric children and against showing young kids sexualized material as gun-toting MAGA nuts. But there are a lot of people like me, who are pro-gun-control and also against the child-harming aspects of what the trans rights lobby is lobbying for.

Besides which, trans rights activists aren’t really so far from the MAGA gun nuts as you want to think they are. From a protest just a few days ago:

LOL, a weird protestor in London is not the own you think this is. Are you also in favor of bans that prohibit youth pastors and priests from being alone with children? Because the sexual abuse that has been inflicted by churches is far greater than anything a trans person has done.

It would be trivially easy to find worse pro-violence posters from US trans protesters and you know it. I just picked that one because it is recent and making the rounds.

I would 100% be in favor of a ban that prohibits youth pastors and priests from being alone with children. You are correct that there is a great deal of abuse in houses of worship, unfortunately.

You don’t seem to get it: a lot of people, myself included, are appalled at violence and sexual abuse of children across the board. We don’t politicize it: we don’t like it anywhere we find it. We don’t ask “is this perpetrated by a Republican or Democrat?” before we decide whether abuse is bad. I get that you do that, and you’re comfortable with abuse from your side, but a lot of us aren’t.

If you don't "like it anywhere you find it", then by all means please do forth and do something about it. You're wasting time on this board when you should be out demanding these changes from lawmakers on both sides.

Are you incapable of doing anything else other than posting on DCUM? Of course I am out demanding changes from lawmakers. I also donate heavily to causes that protect kids. That includes gun control as well as keeping sexually explicit material out of elementary schools and preventing lifelong medicalization and sterilization of children. People can do multiple things, you know.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

A whole bunch of the conservatives have come out against child beauty pageants. They are completely willing to ban those if that’s what gets heavily sexualized material away from kids.

Sure.

But let’s be clear that a drag queen reading books to children does not constitute “sexualized material.” But cons won’t admit it because they think drag queens are per se immoral.

Parents are taking their kids to drag queen shows and there is plenty of video out there showing the inappropriate sexual stuff these kids are exposed to. There is a video posted here on the previous page. How can anyone defend that??

That was not drag queen story hour. And I have never seen a video of sexually inappropriate material at a drag queen story hour.

Some of us can understand the difference. Apparently it’s hard for others.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

I would personally be on board with that. However, it sounds like you're saying that you're only willing to scale back on exposing children to sexual activities if we also scale back on exposing them to violence. I would take either/or, I don't really view one as a bargaining chip. I view both as a win.

DP. The issue is that only LGBTQ+ issues, specifically those around trans people, have been criticized and where laws have been passed that restricts what this community can do. Yet, nothing has been done to stop glorifying violence or guns. If anything, republicans seem fine with giving kids access to guns and exposing them to violence, but then get all outraged if a company sells pride merchandise.

If laws are going to be created around restricting drag performances, then why isn't anything being done to address violence and access to guns? This is why people on this thread are saying that Republicans are out of touch and hypocritical.

Most of the bills ban children being present for sexual performances. Some of them that are said to target trans people, such as the TN bill, doesn't even mention words like drag or trans or gay. It bans children from being present at any performance that is sexual in nature.

Generally, bills at the state level (all these bills have been state level) are about a single issue. So you would be unlikely to find a bill that bans sexual performances for kids and also addresses gun control. In any case, you are only willing to protect kids from sex if we also protect them from guns. I'm in favor of both.

Yes, and the problem with the TN bill is that is so vaguely worded that a drag queen performing in a club (where no one underage would be allowed) could still be prosecuted under this law.

And please stop with the "I'm in favor of both". Because republicans have done nothing to protect kids from guns.

Ok, I am in favor of both, though. You're only in favor of protecting kids from sexual abuse as a bargaining chip to reduce gun rights. Some of us are broadly in favor of all protection for kids.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

A whole bunch of the conservatives have come out against child beauty pageants. They are completely willing to ban those if that’s what gets heavily sexualized material away from kids.

Sure.

But let’s be clear that a drag queen reading books to children does not constitute “sexualized material.” But cons won’t admit it because they think drag queens are per se immoral.

Parents are taking their kids to drag queen shows and there is plenty of video out there showing the inappropriate sexual stuff these kids are exposed to. There is a video posted here on the previous page. How can anyone defend that??

That was not drag queen story hour. And I have never seen a video of sexually inappropriate material at a drag queen story hour.

Some of us can understand the difference. Apparently it’s hard for others.

Why is no one hosting stripper story hour? Because it would be inappropriate, right? Drag queen isn't a gender identity. It's biologically male stripper using feminine sexuality to titillate.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

A whole bunch of the conservatives have come out against child beauty pageants. They are completely willing to ban those if that’s what gets heavily sexualized material away from kids.

Sure.

But let’s be clear that a drag queen reading books to children does not constitute “sexualized material.” But cons won’t admit it because they think drag queens are per se immoral.

I’m not going to link to Matt Walsh here but he did a whole segment on how he would be happy to ban child beauty pageants if that got sexualized material away from kids. You can find it if you want though not sure you’d want to give him clicks.

+1. Many conservatives would be in favor of a much less sexual society. No Ariana Grande for under 18? Okay. No beauty pageants? Check. Use zoning laws to run strip clubs and drag clubs out of town? Sounds good.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

I would personally be on board with that. However, it sounds like you're saying that you're only willing to scale back on exposing children to sexual activities if we also scale back on exposing them to violence. I would take either/or, I don't really view one as a bargaining chip. I view both as a win.

DP. The issue is that only LGBTQ+ issues, specifically those around trans people, have been criticized and where laws have been passed that restricts what this community can do. Yet, nothing has been done to stop glorifying violence or guns. If anything, republicans seem fine with giving kids access to guns and exposing them to violence, but then get all outraged if a company sells pride merchandise.

If laws are going to be created around restricting drag performances, then why isn't anything being done to address violence and access to guns? This is why people on this thread are saying that Republicans are out of touch and hypocritical.

Most of the bills ban children being present for sexual performances. Some of them that are said to target trans people, such as the TN bill, doesn't even mention words like drag or trans or gay. It bans children from being present at any performance that is sexual in nature.

Generally, bills at the state level (all these bills have been state level) are about a single issue. So you would be unlikely to find a bill that bans sexual performances for kids and also addresses gun control. In any case, you are only willing to protect kids from sex if we also protect them from guns. I'm in favor of both.

Yes, and the problem with the TN bill is that is so vaguely worded that a drag queen performing in a club (where no one underage would be allowed) could still be prosecuted under this law.

And please stop with the "I'm in favor of both". Because republicans have done nothing to protect kids from guns.

Ok, I am in favor of both, though. You're only in favor of protecting kids from sexual abuse as a bargaining chip to reduce gun rights. Some of us are broadly in favor of all protection for kids.

Care to explain why there are no bills protecting children from gun violence, but several on banning drag queen performances? I would think that you would want to stop the number one killer of children in the US.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

I would personally be on board with that. However, it sounds like you're saying that you're only willing to scale back on exposing children to sexual activities if we also scale back on exposing them to violence. I would take either/or, I don't really view one as a bargaining chip. I view both as a win.

DP. The issue is that only LGBTQ+ issues, specifically those around trans people, have been criticized and where laws have been passed that restricts what this community can do. Yet, nothing has been done to stop glorifying violence or guns. If anything, republicans seem fine with giving kids access to guns and exposing them to violence, but then get all outraged if a company sells pride merchandise.

If laws are going to be created around restricting drag performances, then why isn't anything being done to address violence and access to guns? This is why people on this thread are saying that Republicans are out of touch and hypocritical.

Most of the bills ban children being present for sexual performances. Some of them that are said to target trans people, such as the TN bill, doesn't even mention words like drag or trans or gay. It bans children from being present at any performance that is sexual in nature.

Generally, bills at the state level (all these bills have been state level) are about a single issue. So you would be unlikely to find a bill that bans sexual performances for kids and also addresses gun control. In any case, you are only willing to protect kids from sex if we also protect them from guns. I'm in favor of both.

Yes, and the problem with the TN bill is that is so vaguely worded that a drag queen performing in a club (where no one underage would be allowed) could still be prosecuted under this law.

And please stop with the "I'm in favor of both". Because republicans have done nothing to protect kids from guns.

Ok, I am in favor of both, though. You're only in favor of protecting kids from sexual abuse as a bargaining chip to reduce gun rights. Some of us are broadly in favor of all protection for kids.

Care to explain why there are no bills protecting children from gun violence, but several on banning drag queen performances? I would think that you would want to stop the number one killer of children in the US.

I’m in a blue state. There are plenty of bills that come up to try to protect kids from gun violence (which I support). It’s protecting kids from sexual material in elementary schools and people determined to sterilize non-neurotypical kids that is the struggle here.

I donate to pro-gun control political groups in red states to try to make a difference there.

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Holy $hit. If this isn’t grossly out of touch with “normal people,” I don’t know what is. Liberals - take some ownership here instead of constantly projecting onto others.

I notice too, that our trans individual on this forum, has not done lengthy commentary on this post, as his his/her custom on other posts.

I suspect this stuff is crazy to the average trans person too. I know trans people and I can't know what is going on inside their heads, but I would be shocked if they endorsed puppy play and naked spanking in front of kids. I just plain don't believe most people, including teans people, are this fringe.

And yet there it is, on video, at a pride parade. With kids.

What does that video have to do with trans people?

You can’t cherry-pick. It’s a pride parade with inappropriate (and I’m being kind) behavior being demonstrated in front of little children. I’ve been to pride parades in P-town and the way little children are used on those floats is very offensive. I don’t care what adults do, but involving kids in these manners is wholly inappropriate.

Sure, I agree, it's inappropriate and the parade organizers should have warned parents that this was not a kid-friendly event. You have not made a clear connection to how that ties to Target selling t-shirts.

Also, until you come out and start making as much fuss about child beauty pageants as you do about a video of a parade in Canada, then I can't take your outrage seriously. Because you are otherwise a hypocrite. Those child beauty pageants are way more inappropriate, they sexual underage girls and they foster way more "grooming."

DP, but it sounds like you agree in principle that involving children in sexually explicit activities or exposing them to sexually explicit materials is inappropriate. Honestly, that's all I want. It's fine if we debate the particulars. I'd just like our culture to get back to a point where we agree that children should be protected from exposure to or involvement in sexual images or activities. Early sexualization comes with a host of problems that persist in adulthood. Children should have relatively a wholesome upbringing, and that is possible in gay homes as well as straight homes. There is nothing about being trans, gay, etc that requires children to be exposed to sexual activities in order to increase acceptance, etc.

That also means way more stringent rules about media - film, television, music, video games, advertisements.

I don't care if children wear rainbow pride t-shirts, though, or if Target sells rainbow themed items. That does not "sexualize" children.

Also I personally think violence is way worse than sex. So I would toss in violence if we're going to "get our culture back" with regard to children. My parents had no problem with us watching the few seconds of nudity in Romeo and Juliet in our freshman year English class. But they wouldn't let us watch violent films or play violent video games. Are you on board with getting rid of our violent culture, too? If so, I extend a hand.

I would personally be on board with that. However, it sounds like you're saying that you're only willing to scale back on exposing children to sexual activities if we also scale back on exposing them to violence. I would take either/or, I don't really view one as a bargaining chip. I view both as a win.

DP. The issue is that only LGBTQ+ issues, specifically those around trans people, have been criticized and where laws have been passed that restricts what this community can do. Yet, nothing has been done to stop glorifying violence or guns. If anything, republicans seem fine with giving kids access to guns and exposing them to violence, but then get all outraged if a company sells pride merchandise.

If laws are going to be created around restricting drag performances, then why isn't anything being done to address violence and access to guns? This is why people on this thread are saying that Republicans are out of touch and hypocritical.

Most of the bills ban children being present for sexual performances. Some of them that are said to target trans people, such as the TN bill, doesn't even mention words like drag or trans or gay. It bans children from being present at any performance that is sexual in nature.

Generally, bills at the state level (all these bills have been state level) are about a single issue. So you would be unlikely to find a bill that bans sexual performances for kids and also addresses gun control. In any case, you are only willing to protect kids from sex if we also protect them from guns. I'm in favor of both.

Yes, and the problem with the TN bill is that is so vaguely worded that a drag queen performing in a club (where no one underage would be allowed) could still be prosecuted under this law.

And please stop with the "I'm in favor of both". Because republicans have done nothing to protect kids from guns.

Ok, I am in favor of both, though. You're only in favor of protecting kids from sexual abuse as a bargaining chip to reduce gun rights. Some of us are broadly in favor of all protection for kids.

Care to explain why there are no bills protecting children from gun violence, but several on banning drag queen performances? I would think that you would want to stop the number one killer of children in the US.

What I'll explain is that you're grossly misinformed. Go inform yourself with nonpartisan information about gun control measures passed throughout the US in the past 5 years.