UVA mass shooting

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Anonymous wrote:I just keep thinking as horrific as this situation is, it could have been much, much worse with him shooting in that enclosed space. Everyone else on that bus much have such terrible survival guilt - I can't imagine.

pls stop with the "could have been worse" knee-jerk response. Abbot said the same after the Uvalde massacre. As if that rhetoric makes anything better. It was horrific.

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Anonymous wrote:Just read the shooter was not in the class, but was invited on the trip by the prof? Wow. I suspect UVA is going to be successfully sued for a very very large sum by everyone involved. What a tragedy.

Oh my - can you imagine how the prof feels?? But also why would he have invited him- very weird coincidence.

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Anonymous wrote:Have we talked about the tweet from the sister of a UVA student who was scheduled to be roommates with the shooter starting next semester (after the brother returned from semester abroad)?.

What about it?

NP here. The only thing I found unsettling about that tweet was there was an upperclassman who didn't have anyone to room with him so he was being matched by the school. If he had been there since 2018 you'd think he would have known someone to have as a roommate or live in an apartment or group house. It sounds like his fall semester roommate wasn't even planning on living with him for next semester.

Where is the tweet?

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Anonymous wrote:Just read the shooter was not in the class, but was invited on the trip by the prof? Wow. I suspect UVA is going to be successfully sued for a very very large sum by everyone involved. What a tragedy.

+1!

If the shooter was a clear and present danger of which UVA was or should have been aware and had a duty to act, then it doesn’t matter that he wasn’t in the class. All that matters was that he was on campus at all. Being invited on the trip is irrelevant. You’re obviously not a lawyer.

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Anonymous wrote:So was he packing a gun for the entire trip? On the bus, at the theater, in the restaurant?

I'm not a gun owner, but I thought pistols were pretty hard to conceal. Unless he wore a coat the entire time.

Could he have had a backpack?

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Wow, sounds like paranoia

“Chris got up and pushed Lavel,” Lynch said. “After he pushed him, he was like ‘You guys are always messing with me.’ Said something weird like that, but it was very bizarre because they didn’t talk to him the whole trip.”

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Anonymous wrote:So was he packing a gun for the entire trip? On the bus, at the theater, in the restaurant?

I'm not a gun owner, but I thought pistols were pretty hard to conceal. Unless he wore a coat the entire time.

Could he have had a backpack?

Yeah, I guess that wouldn't arouse much suspicion. But would he have left it on the bus when they went to the theater? Seems kinda risky.

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Anonymous wrote:Just read the shooter was not in the class, but was invited on the trip by the prof? Wow. I suspect UVA is going to be successfully sued for a very very large sum by everyone involved. What a tragedy.

Oh my - can you imagine how the prof feels?? But also why would he have invited him- very weird coincidence.

It’s not a “very weird coincidence” and the prof is a she, not a he. The shooter was in another one of the prof’s classes. No coincidence at all. Not everyone on the trip was in the class.

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Anonymous wrote:Just read the shooter was not in the class, but was invited on the trip by the prof? Wow. I suspect UVA is going to be successfully sued for a very very large sum by everyone involved. What a tragedy.

Oh my - can you imagine how the prof feels?? But also why would he have invited him- very weird coincidence.

Wonder if him asking to be invited will let prosecution push for premeditation. (I think it should be first degree anyways).

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, sounds like paranoia

“Chris got up and pushed Lavel,” Lynch said. “After he pushed him, he was like ‘You guys are always messing with me.’ Said something weird like that, but it was very bizarre because they didn’t talk to him the whole trip.”

they could have been texting or whatever kids use to communicate.

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Anonymous wrote:Prosecutor says one of the football players was asleep.

My gut says the "people were picking on me" + video game comments speak more to schizophrenia/paranoia than any actual conflict with these guys.

This was what I thought too especially with the comments from the father about his paranoia. This is the age when schizophrenia can show up.

The football coach indicated yesterday that the shooter had not overlapped on the team with the victims, so unless there was some other connection....

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Anonymous wrote:Just read the shooter was not in the class, but was invited on the trip by the prof? Wow. I suspect UVA is going to be successfully sued for a very very large sum by everyone involved. What a tragedy.

Oh my - can you imagine how the prof feels?? But also why would he have invited him- very weird coincidence.

Wonder if him asking to be invited will let prosecution push for premeditation. (I think it should be first degree anyways).

Yes- that's what I meant above (with poor wording oof), not that the professor had anything to do with it.

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Anonymous wrote:CTE?

From playing high school football? The kid never played in college. Didn’t even practice. Get a grip.

Yes, it has been shown in studies and it does not even take a concussion to cause it. They have found it in high school football players who have not suffered concussions. So even the constant lower-level collisions are leaving a mark.

I said this many, many posts back. My first thought was CTE.

Brain studies published since 2019 have shown CTE in brains of deceased who never experienced repetitive hits to the head. The studies coming out of Boston University’s CTE Center (where the majority of the research has taken place) have major selection bias problems. Even the famed Dr. Omalu has credibility issues, publishing “scientific” articles with his business partner, a plaintiffs’ attorney based in West Virginia. All this to say what scientists know about CTE is in its infancy, the diagnosis is being used and abused, and to blame CTE rather than the shooter for this tragedy is beyond premature.

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Anonymous wrote:Just read the shooter was not in the class, but was invited on the trip by the prof? Wow. I suspect UVA is going to be successfully sued for a very very large sum by everyone involved. What a tragedy.

Oh my - can you imagine how the prof feels?? But also why would he have invited him- very weird coincidence.

Professor is a woman it says why in the WAPO article - that he was taking another class with that professor. Not unusual IMO.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just read the shooter was not in the class, but was invited on the trip by the prof? Wow. I suspect UVA is going to be successfully sued for a very very large sum by everyone involved. What a tragedy.

Oh my - can you imagine how the prof feels?? But also why would he have invited him- very weird coincidence.

Wonder if him asking to be invited will let prosecution push for premeditation. (I think it should be first degree anyways).

The professor invited him along according to the WAPO article.