Magruder HS Shooting

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This student just went to class after he shot the other student. Acted like nothing happened.. the one who got shot was unconscious state. Wonder how they figured out who the shooter was?

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Magruder teacher if anyone has any questions. Kids were very good during the lockdown. Staff were pretty positive. All of us are new to this so it is hard to process it. Felt like a normal day. Lockdown was relaxed with most students just on phones. The worst part by far was not being able to use the restroom.

I agree that communication sucked. They wouldnt even tell us any details even though it’s all over the news/Twitter.

I'm sorry you had to experience this.
Can you confirm:
so no food, drink or bathrooms.
and held an additional hour to wait for the super.
and suspect was among the student body for 2 hours before apprehended (when parents? thought the threat was over)? Did you realize shooter was still at the school?

We were on lockdown. Police wouldn’t let us leave rooms for any reason. School was treated as a crime scene basically, so no one could leave rooms. No food or drink except for what kids had on them. It’s not like the cafeteria was open or anything.

We were not given any details or updates while in the building regarding events going on. Except for a photo sent out asking if that person was in anyone’s room. Not sure if that person was directly involved or not. No information about ongoing threats, suspect in a room. The issue was first treated as a health issue when the boy was found and ambulances were called. The school was put on lockdown to allow ambulance personnel to arrive. The first thought is that he injured himself intentionally but there was no knife. Then there was the realization that it must be a gunshot when the ambulance crew determined the injury, but no gun was found. So obviously there must be another student involved. It took time to ID the student, determine location and make a plan to remove student from the classroom safely. That explains the two hours of time needed before the suspect was apprehended and the lack of communication so that no one was tipped off.

Once he was apprehended, evidence collected , and they made sure no one was involved then the moved to securing the building and removing students. At that point there were 35 police cars and overhead news chopper and the local inspections had been closed backing up all the traffic. Obviously McKnight and others didn’t have a helicopter to arrive on site. Traffic was backed up for miles. Kids could leave in until buses arrived which is also when the McKnight and other staff were finally able arrive. There was not conspiracy or anything. Just traffic. Staff stayed until almost 7pm when we had a short meeting with no details given except a reference to “health emergency” and introductions to the the county staff in charge of things going forward. They asked us not to give interviews.

Thank you for this thoughtful and thorough response after what must have been a horrendous day.
You must have been a source of calm for you students.
Again, I'm really sorry for that this is happening so often in this country.

This is a bit too detailed for a teacher. Was that exactly 35 police cars? How do they know? Who told them?

This does not read as a first hand account at all. Just more MCPS propaganda.

It’s sad that your first assumption is conspiracy.

Not PP you were replying to, but in this age of social media, you can't ever trust what you read online. I am quite sure that there are a few MCPS hacks on this site, but the teacher poster appeared sincere enough - maybe she added info with what she gleaned later, who knows.

They wrote: “That explains the two hours of time needed before the suspect was apprehended and the lack of communication so that no one was tipped off.”

That’s an excuse for MCPS. Not a first hand account of what happened from someone that was present.

Right, I hear you. I think that was a subjective interpretation from an individual that has had a long day and would really like their employer to be trustworthy, not a paid PR post, but we can agree to disagree.

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Anonymous wrote:This student just went to class after he shot the other student. Acted like nothing happened.. the one who got shot was unconscious state. Wonder how they figured out who the shooter was?

Rumor has it that the victim was able to identify their shooter and tell medics.

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Anonymous wrote:This student just went to class after he shot the other student. Acted like nothing happened.. the one who got shot was unconscious state. Wonder how they figured out who the shooter was?

Cameras? They are everywhere. If they had smart cameras with accompanying AI software, it would be able to trace the steps of the killer. I bet they do not have smart cameras or very limited capability cameras.

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Anonymous wrote:This student just went to class after he shot the other student. Acted like nothing happened.. the one who got shot was unconscious state. Wonder how they figured out who the shooter was?

Yikes! I just read he was located in a classroom. I assumed an empty one, not back to his class.

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Anonymous wrote:This student just went to class after he shot the other student. Acted like nothing happened.. the one who got shot was unconscious state. Wonder how they figured out who the shooter was?

Cameras? They are everywhere. If they had smart cameras with accompanying AI software, it would be able to trace the steps of the killer. I bet they do not have smart cameras or very limited capability cameras.

So. MCPS has a very outdated system of cameras, which I believe may not actually be working during school hours. In my children's elementary school years ago, the Principal told us they were not working and that priority was given to middle and high school cams, but I doubt even those would be working all that well...

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Anonymous wrote:This student just went to class after he shot the other student. Acted like nothing happened.. the one who got shot was unconscious state. Wonder how they figured out who the shooter was?

Yikes! I just read he was located in a classroom. I assumed an empty one, not back to his class.

The assumption is that he went back to his normal class, but we may be wrong.

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The biggest problem we're facing now, people, is that MCPS and law enforcement will seek to sweep all failures under the rug.

What you all need to do is contact Elrich and the Council's office, and demand a third party investigation, with the goal of analyzing what went wrong, why the delays, and what could be improved for next time. Because there will be a next time.

There should definitely be a review. And yes, there will be a next time. Unfortunately, that’s the way society seems to be heading. I wouldn’t trust the current council, though. This is the council that removed SROs. I can’t begin to imagine how today could have gone differently had there been a trained LEO in the building with first-hand knowledge and training. No, the council is NOT the next step.

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I predict this mess is going to lead to a re-evaluation of the active shooter plans on the part of law enforcement and school admin response.

So you think the current plan doesn't call for getting potential victims to safety asap?

Do your own eyes deceive you, my friend? No. The current plan is to neutralize the shooter first. They couldn't even follow that. Failure on all fronts.

That would be the plan if there was active shooting occurring, which doesn’t seem to be the case. (Source: LEO spouse)

With respect, what part of "shooter still armed, in the building, and in a room full of students" does not have the potential to become an active shooter situation in a split second?!?!!?!?!?!

The WaPo article about this downplays it too, and describes it like you did.

But this is completely wrong. We're all lucky this person didn't shoot anyone else. How would everyone feel tonight if the student had gone on to shoot multiple other people?

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:This student just went to class after he shot the other student. Acted like nothing happened.. the one who got shot was unconscious state. Wonder how they figured out who the shooter was?

Cameras? They are everywhere. If they had smart cameras with accompanying AI software, it would be able to trace the steps of the killer. I bet they do not have smart cameras or very limited capability cameras.

That is considered authoritarian. Not going to happen in a free society.

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The biggest problem we're facing now, people, is that MCPS and law enforcement will seek to sweep all failures under the rug.

What you all need to do is contact Elrich and the Council's office, and demand a third party investigation, with the goal of analyzing what went wrong, why the delays, and what could be improved for next time. Because there will be a next time.

Not only MCPS and law enforcement, but the County Council and County Executive also want to sweep this under the rug. This is an election year after all.

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The biggest problem we're facing now, people, is that MCPS and law enforcement will seek to sweep all failures under the rug.

What you all need to do is contact Elrich and the Council's office, and demand a third party investigation, with the goal of analyzing what went wrong, why the delays, and what could be improved for next time. Because there will be a next time.

There should definitely be a review. And yes, there will be a next time. Unfortunately, that’s the way society seems to be heading. I wouldn’t trust the current council, though. This is the council that removed SROs. I can’t begin to imagine how today could have gone differently had there been a trained LEO in the building with first-hand knowledge and training. No, the council is NOT the next step.

Then what do you suggest?

MCPS is very good at doing "internal audits" that don't reveal any wrongdoing (surprise!). We need a higher authority to impose an investigation. We need parents to sue. We need both. And don't think that just because this Council voted one way on SROs, they want to defend what happened. On the contrary. Some of them voted that way to appease the woke masses in the wake of what happened last year, but may be actually quite ready to change course. I know I never wanted SROs to leave schools. I also want metal detectors. This shooting is the perfect opportunity for some people to enforce more security in schools.

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Anonymous wrote:There was an ARMED shooter in the school for TWO HOURS and they said "no threat."

Read that again.

It would’ve been mass panic if they hadn’t.

You are an idiot.


They were in lockdown with an armed shooter.
They should have been actively filing students and staff out, classroom by classroom, and searching for the gun and the shooter.

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Anonymous wrote:
The biggest problem we're facing now, people, is that MCPS and law enforcement will seek to sweep all failures under the rug.

What you all need to do is contact Elrich and the Council's office, and demand a third party investigation, with the goal of analyzing what went wrong, why the delays, and what could be improved for next time. Because there will be a next time.

Not only MCPS and law enforcement, but the County Council and County Executive also want to sweep this under the rug. This is an election year after all.

Perfect. He can come out of this a hero and announce more security in school buildings!!!

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Anonymous wrote:If the safety and well-being of students is a top priority, the students would not have been still at school while press conference is happening. This is where a leader says, “No wait, let’s get the kids out first.”

Absolutely. This is what disgusts me the most.