Who will be Governor of Maryland after Hogan?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the SC ruling today helps Franchot big time. No way in hell can MD go to either of the Republicans. People who would've considered Moore are going to strategically vote for the moderate Franchot.

This makes no sense. Wes Moore is a centrist candidate. Franchot is actually more liberal. And why would overturning Roe make someone vote more moderate? Or make someone want to vote for an old white guy even?

Old white guys get nominated when Democrats are operating from a place of fear.

See: Joe Biden’s 2020 Presidential primary campaign rescued by strategic black voters in the South.

Franchot is gonna win this, just watch.

If you live in Maryland, I am going to guess that you are either new to MD or your life is completely structured around DC.

Roe will have zero impact on the democratic primary and the overturn of Roe does not favor Franchot, who is not running a progressive campaign.

The campaign will 100% be about who’s supporters vote and how many. Franchot has the advantage that he has a lot of name recognition and people have voted for him multiple times in the past. However, despite living in Takoma Park, he has a disadvantage in that he is least popular with people of color and consequently will have a challenge in the high population areas of the state, including Montgomery and PG Counties and Baltimore City. His base is primarily to quintessential Maryland conservative Democratic voter, who is white, drives a big SUV and lives in the suburbs/exurbs. He will undoubtedly win the white areas of the Eastern Shore, Frederick, Howard, Carroll and Anne Arundel. He also has a good chance to pick up a lot of votes in Baltimore County, which is a big county with a lot of people. But will that be enough votes? Maybe, considering that the remaining candidates will split the Montgomery and PG County votes. Combined with Baltimore City, these three jurisdictions have supplied the votes for every Democratic governor nomination since Glendening and it is also where Franchot is weakest.

Do you have polling that shows he's the least popular with BIPOC voters?

Do you have polling data that shows that he is popular with Black voters? He has zero relationships with Black lawmakers in the Assembly. None. It’s why he’s pulled Monique Anderson-Walker into the race as Lt. Gov, who is a first term district CM from PG County. The guy is 75 and has been around forever. There are no prominent state Black democrats that lined up with him. He’s spent more time campaigning on the Eastern Shore than Baltimore. Absolute joke to suggest otherwise.

TBF there seems to be a theme of picking female Lt. Gov candidates, it just so happens she is black.

+1 it’s a huge field and the one (I think?) woman dropped out already, so all the men picked women.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is the closest to Hogan? I'm looking for a moderate!

Kelly Schulz will literally be an extension of Larry Hogan, and has my vote over the clown car of a democratic field.

Her major ding is that she’s a republican. Republicans like Larry Hogan don’t come by often.

She is not at all like Hogan. Hogan only won lasr time due to the untimely death of the Dem candidate. We aren't voting in Republicans again.

Here is where I differ, and my comment isn’t directed at any of the current nominees for governor. I think “we” should vote for the best candidate regardless of party affiliation. by only voting Democrat we got O’Malley and would’ve gotten Ben jealous. By refusing to vote Republican we would not have gotten Larry Hogan. I think that extreme political thinking or rigid political thinking is bad for the state.

At this point I don’t know who I think will be a good governor, I’m researching and trying to learn.

I honestly don't understand Md's love for Larry Hogan. And I'm not saying this because I'm a democrat (I am), but because I don't understand why everyone thinks he is so great. He lied about the covid test from south korea, he violated the states open meetings act, he was found the violated the first amendment when he blocked people from his social media sites, and now he is trying to sell himself as some "not a republican" republican. I honestly don't get it.

We don't "love" him. We realize it could have been much worse and we didn't have a viable Dem candidate. Kamenetz would've won, but he died. As for me, a Dem, I wasn't happy with what he vetoed in legislation, but there were workarounds in our Dem legislative majority to overturn them. He also denounced Trump, and was vocal about it....I thought that was great. He didn't lie about the tests, it was just a complete blunder, but at least he tried. He did block his social media, but he got more grief from Trumpers than anyone. It was getting crazy.

Sounds like we need to remind people that MoCo does not = MD.

MD does in fact "love" Larry. His approval ratings are high, and he would probably cruise to a 3rd term if permitted.

The rest of the state (outside Bmore) is mostly red or purple. People love Larry here

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Anonymous wrote:I think the SC ruling today helps Franchot big time. No way in hell can MD go to either of the Republicans. People who would've considered Moore are going to strategically vote for the moderate Franchot.

This makes no sense. Wes Moore is a centrist candidate. Franchot is actually more liberal. And why would overturning Roe make someone vote more moderate? Or make someone want to vote for an old white guy even?

Old white guys get nominated when Democrats are operating from a place of fear.

See: Joe Biden’s 2020 Presidential primary campaign rescued by strategic black voters in the South.

Franchot is gonna win this, just watch.

If you live in Maryland, I am going to guess that you are either new to MD or your life is completely structured around DC.

Roe will have zero impact on the democratic primary and the overturn of Roe does not favor Franchot, who is not running a progressive campaign.

The campaign will 100% be about who’s supporters vote and how many. Franchot has the advantage that he has a lot of name recognition and people have voted for him multiple times in the past. However, despite living in Takoma Park, he has a disadvantage in that he is least popular with people of color and consequently will have a challenge in the high population areas of the state, including Montgomery and PG Counties and Baltimore City. His base is primarily to quintessential Maryland conservative Democratic voter, who is white, drives a big SUV and lives in the suburbs/exurbs. He will undoubtedly win the white areas of the Eastern Shore, Frederick, Howard, Carroll and Anne Arundel. He also has a good chance to pick up a lot of votes in Baltimore County, which is a big county with a lot of people. But will that be enough votes? Maybe, considering that the remaining candidates will split the Montgomery and PG County votes. Combined with Baltimore City, these three jurisdictions have supplied the votes for every Democratic governor nomination since Glendening and it is also where Franchot is weakest.

Do you have polling that shows he's the least popular with BIPOC voters?

Do you have polling data that shows that he is popular with Black voters? He has zero relationships with Black lawmakers in the Assembly. None. It’s why he’s pulled Monique Anderson-Walker into the race as Lt. Gov, who is a first term district CM from PG County. The guy is 75 and has been around forever. There are no prominent state Black democrats that lined up with him. He’s spent more time campaigning on the Eastern Shore than Baltimore. Absolute joke to suggest otherwise.

TBF there seems to be a theme of picking female Lt. Gov candidates, it just so happens she is black.

+1 it’s a huge field and the one (I think?) woman dropped out already, so all the men picked women.

All the white guys picked Black women because pandering.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is the closest to Hogan? I'm looking for a moderate!

Kelly Schulz will literally be an extension of Larry Hogan, and has my vote over the clown car of a democratic field.

Her major ding is that she’s a republican. Republicans like Larry Hogan don’t come by often.

She is not at all like Hogan. Hogan only won lasr time due to the untimely death of the Dem candidate. We aren't voting in Republicans again.

Here is where I differ, and my comment isn’t directed at any of the current nominees for governor. I think “we” should vote for the best candidate regardless of party affiliation. by only voting Democrat we got O’Malley and would’ve gotten Ben jealous. By refusing to vote Republican we would not have gotten Larry Hogan. I think that extreme political thinking or rigid political thinking is bad for the state.

At this point I don’t know who I think will be a good governor, I’m researching and trying to learn.

I honestly don't understand Md's love for Larry Hogan. And I'm not saying this because I'm a democrat (I am), but because I don't understand why everyone thinks he is so great. He lied about the covid test from south korea, he violated the states open meetings act, he was found the violated the first amendment when he blocked people from his social media sites, and now he is trying to sell himself as some "not a republican" republican. I honestly don't get it.

We don't "love" him. We realize it could have been much worse and we didn't have a viable Dem candidate. Kamenetz would've won, but he died. As for me, a Dem, I wasn't happy with what he vetoed in legislation, but there were workarounds in our Dem legislative majority to overturn them. He also denounced Trump, and was vocal about it....I thought that was great. He didn't lie about the tests, it was just a complete blunder, but at least he tried. He did block his social media, but he got more grief from Trumpers than anyone. It was getting crazy.

Sounds like we need to remind people that MoCo does not = MD.

MD does in fact "love" Larry. His approval ratings are high, and he would probably cruise to a 3rd term if permitted.

The rest of the state (outside Bmore) is mostly red or purple. People love Larry here

Baltimore City, Howard, MoCo, PG and Charles, AA and Baltimore County decided the elections. 5 of those jurisdictions are Blue and 2 are Purple

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Anonymous wrote:Who is the closest to Hogan? I'm looking for a moderate!

Kelly Schulz will literally be an extension of Larry Hogan, and has my vote over the clown car of a democratic field.

Her major ding is that she’s a republican. Republicans like Larry Hogan don’t come by often.

She is not at all like Hogan. Hogan only won lasr time due to the untimely death of the Dem candidate. We aren't voting in Republicans again.

Here is where I differ, and my comment isn’t directed at any of the current nominees for governor. I think “we” should vote for the best candidate regardless of party affiliation. by only voting Democrat we got O’Malley and would’ve gotten Ben jealous. By refusing to vote Republican we would not have gotten Larry Hogan. I think that extreme political thinking or rigid political thinking is bad for the state.

At this point I don’t know who I think will be a good governor, I’m researching and trying to learn.

I honestly don't understand Md's love for Larry Hogan. And I'm not saying this because I'm a democrat (I am), but because I don't understand why everyone thinks he is so great. He lied about the covid test from south korea, he violated the states open meetings act, he was found the violated the first amendment when he blocked people from his social media sites, and now he is trying to sell himself as some "not a republican" republican. I honestly don't get it.

We don't "love" him. We realize it could have been much worse and we didn't have a viable Dem candidate. Kamenetz would've won, but he died. As for me, a Dem, I wasn't happy with what he vetoed in legislation, but there were workarounds in our Dem legislative majority to overturn them. He also denounced Trump, and was vocal about it....I thought that was great. He didn't lie about the tests, it was just a complete blunder, but at least he tried. He did block his social media, but he got more grief from Trumpers than anyone. It was getting crazy.

Sounds like we need to remind people that MoCo does not = MD.

MD does in fact "love" Larry. His approval ratings are high, and he would probably cruise to a 3rd term if permitted.

The rest of the state (outside Bmore) is mostly red or purple. People love Larry here

It's true. Even the D's love Hogan in MD.

The most recent Goucher polling is that 64 percent of Maryland Dems had a favorable view of Hogan.

That's love from the opposite party, for sure

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Anonymous wrote:Who is the closest to Hogan? I'm looking for a moderate!

Kelly Schulz will literally be an extension of Larry Hogan, and has my vote over the clown car of a democratic field.

Her major ding is that she’s a republican. Republicans like Larry Hogan don’t come by often.

She is not at all like Hogan. Hogan only won lasr time due to the untimely death of the Dem candidate. We aren't voting in Republicans again.

Here is where I differ, and my comment isn’t directed at any of the current nominees for governor. I think “we” should vote for the best candidate regardless of party affiliation. by only voting Democrat we got O’Malley and would’ve gotten Ben jealous. By refusing to vote Republican we would not have gotten Larry Hogan. I think that extreme political thinking or rigid political thinking is bad for the state.

At this point I don’t know who I think will be a good governor, I’m researching and trying to learn.

I honestly don't understand Md's love for Larry Hogan. And I'm not saying this because I'm a democrat (I am), but because I don't understand why everyone thinks he is so great. He lied about the covid test from south korea, he violated the states open meetings act, he was found the violated the first amendment when he blocked people from his social media sites, and now he is trying to sell himself as some "not a republican" republican. I honestly don't get it.

We don't "love" him. We realize it could have been much worse and we didn't have a viable Dem candidate. Kamenetz would've won, but he died. As for me, a Dem, I wasn't happy with what he vetoed in legislation, but there were workarounds in our Dem legislative majority to overturn them. He also denounced Trump, and was vocal about it....I thought that was great. He didn't lie about the tests, it was just a complete blunder, but at least he tried. He did block his social media, but he got more grief from Trumpers than anyone. It was getting crazy.

Sounds like we need to remind people that MoCo does not = MD.

MD does in fact "love" Larry. His approval ratings are high, and he would probably cruise to a 3rd term if permitted.

The rest of the state (outside Bmore) is mostly red or purple. People love Larry here

Baltimore City, Howard, MoCo, PG and Charles, AA and Baltimore County decided the elections. 5 of those jurisdictions are Blue and 2 are Purple

+1 And the rest of the state is empty. Yes Garrett County is always red but it has the same number of people as Bethesda.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is the closest to Hogan? I'm looking for a moderate!

Kelly Schulz will literally be an extension of Larry Hogan, and has my vote over the clown car of a democratic field.

Her major ding is that she’s a republican. Republicans like Larry Hogan don’t come by often.

She is not at all like Hogan. Hogan only won lasr time due to the untimely death of the Dem candidate. We aren't voting in Republicans again.

Here is where I differ, and my comment isn’t directed at any of the current nominees for governor. I think “we” should vote for the best candidate regardless of party affiliation. by only voting Democrat we got O’Malley and would’ve gotten Ben jealous. By refusing to vote Republican we would not have gotten Larry Hogan. I think that extreme political thinking or rigid political thinking is bad for the state.

At this point I don’t know who I think will be a good governor, I’m researching and trying to learn.

I honestly don't understand Md's love for Larry Hogan. And I'm not saying this because I'm a democrat (I am), but because I don't understand why everyone thinks he is so great. He lied about the covid test from south korea, he violated the states open meetings act, he was found the violated the first amendment when he blocked people from his social media sites, and now he is trying to sell himself as some "not a republican" republican. I honestly don't get it.

We don't "love" him. We realize it could have been much worse and we didn't have a viable Dem candidate. Kamenetz would've won, but he died. As for me, a Dem, I wasn't happy with what he vetoed in legislation, but there were workarounds in our Dem legislative majority to overturn them. He also denounced Trump, and was vocal about it....I thought that was great. He didn't lie about the tests, it was just a complete blunder, but at least he tried. He did block his social media, but he got more grief from Trumpers than anyone. It was getting crazy.

Sounds like we need to remind people that MoCo does not = MD.

MD does in fact "love" Larry. His approval ratings are high, and he would probably cruise to a 3rd term if permitted.

The rest of the state (outside Bmore) is mostly red or purple. People love Larry here

Baltimore City, Howard, MoCo, PG and Charles, AA and Baltimore County decided the elections. 5 of those jurisdictions are Blue and 2 are Purple

+1 And the rest of the state is empty. Yes Garrett County is always red but it has the same number of people as Bethesda.

This is true. But it doesnt negate the fact that the PP was wrong when they said MD doesnt love Larry; they absolutely do. Its almost equal favorability between Ds and Rs (bc Rs don't think he's conservative enough)

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Apparently Schulz only leads Cox by 3 points, 25 to 22....

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently Schulz only leads Cox by 3 points, 25 to 22....

I would assume all the people that switched from D to R will vote for Schulz.

And republicans have to understand that Cox getting the nom is a surefire to guarantee a Dem governor

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently Schulz only leads Cox by 3 points, 25 to 22....

I would assume all the people that switched from D to R will vote for Schulz.

And republicans have to understand that Cox getting the nom is a surefire to guarantee a Dem governor

You'd think that, but a LARGE segment of Maryland Republicans are in lock step with Fmr. President Trump and by extension, Daniel Cox, who got his endorsement. But yes, barring the Dems nominating Jerome Segal, an avowed socialist, a Cox nomination virtually clinches the race for Democrats.

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently Schulz only leads Cox by 3 points, 25 to 22....

I would assume all the people that switched from D to R will vote for Schulz.

And republicans have to understand that Cox getting the nom is a surefire to guarantee a Dem governor

A lot of white MD Dems are Catholic so they may not mind her past stances on abortion. Especially since party leaders don’t seem to mind too much about the court ruling.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is the closest to Hogan? I'm looking for a moderate!

Kelly Schulz will literally be an extension of Larry Hogan, and has my vote over the clown car of a democratic field.

Her major ding is that she’s a republican. Republicans like Larry Hogan don’t come by often.

She is not at all like Hogan. Hogan only won lasr time due to the untimely death of the Dem candidate. We aren't voting in Republicans again.

Here is where I differ, and my comment isn’t directed at any of the current nominees for governor. I think “we” should vote for the best candidate regardless of party affiliation. by only voting Democrat we got O’Malley and would’ve gotten Ben jealous. By refusing to vote Republican we would not have gotten Larry Hogan. I think that extreme political thinking or rigid political thinking is bad for the state.

At this point I don’t know who I think will be a good governor, I’m researching and trying to learn.

I honestly don't understand Md's love for Larry Hogan. And I'm not saying this because I'm a democrat (I am), but because I don't understand why everyone thinks he is so great. He lied about the covid test from south korea, he violated the states open meetings act, he was found the violated the first amendment when he blocked people from his social media sites, and now he is trying to sell himself as some "not a republican" republican. I honestly don't get it.

We don't "love" him. We realize it could have been much worse and we didn't have a viable Dem candidate. Kamenetz would've won, but he died. As for me, a Dem, I wasn't happy with what he vetoed in legislation, but there were workarounds in our Dem legislative majority to overturn them. He also denounced Trump, and was vocal about it....I thought that was great. He didn't lie about the tests, it was just a complete blunder, but at least he tried. He did block his social media, but he got more grief from Trumpers than anyone. It was getting crazy.

Sounds like we need to remind people that MoCo does not = MD.

MD does in fact "love" Larry. His approval ratings are high, and he would probably cruise to a 3rd term if permitted.

The rest of the state (outside Bmore) is mostly red or purple. People love Larry here

It's true. Even the D's love Hogan in MD.

The most recent Goucher polling is that 64 percent of Maryland Dems had a favorable view of Hogan.

That's love from the opposite party, for sure

I’m a Dem, and Larry’s the only R I’ve ever voted for. I would vote for him for any office he ran for, no matter what Dem he ran against. The primaries will take him out, but he could win a national election.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is the closest to Hogan? I'm looking for a moderate!

Kelly Schulz will literally be an extension of Larry Hogan, and has my vote over the clown car of a democratic field.

Her major ding is that she’s a republican. Republicans like Larry Hogan don’t come by often.

She is not at all like Hogan. Hogan only won lasr time due to the untimely death of the Dem candidate. We aren't voting in Republicans again.

Here is where I differ, and my comment isn’t directed at any of the current nominees for governor. I think “we” should vote for the best candidate regardless of party affiliation. by only voting Democrat we got O’Malley and would’ve gotten Ben jealous. By refusing to vote Republican we would not have gotten Larry Hogan. I think that extreme political thinking or rigid political thinking is bad for the state.

At this point I don’t know who I think will be a good governor, I’m researching and trying to learn.

I honestly don't understand Md's love for Larry Hogan. And I'm not saying this because I'm a democrat (I am), but because I don't understand why everyone thinks he is so great. He lied about the covid test from south korea, he violated the states open meetings act, he was found the violated the first amendment when he blocked people from his social media sites, and now he is trying to sell himself as some "not a republican" republican. I honestly don't get it.

We don't "love" him. We realize it could have been much worse and we didn't have a viable Dem candidate. Kamenetz would've won, but he died. As for me, a Dem, I wasn't happy with what he vetoed in legislation, but there were workarounds in our Dem legislative majority to overturn them. He also denounced Trump, and was vocal about it....I thought that was great. He didn't lie about the tests, it was just a complete blunder, but at least he tried. He did block his social media, but he got more grief from Trumpers than anyone. It was getting crazy.

Sounds like we need to remind people that MoCo does not = MD.

MD does in fact "love" Larry. His approval ratings are high, and he would probably cruise to a 3rd term if permitted.

The rest of the state (outside Bmore) is mostly red or purple. People love Larry here

It's true. Even the D's love Hogan in MD.

The most recent Goucher polling is that 64 percent of Maryland Dems had a favorable view of Hogan.

That's love from the opposite party, for sure

I’m a Dem, and Larry’s the only R I’ve ever voted for. I would vote for him for any office he ran for, no matter what Dem he ran against. The primaries will take him out, but he could win a national election.

Very much in the mould of Charlie Baker in MA.

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Hogan is popular because he can’t actually pass any legislation. If he were governor with a R house/senate, it would be a different game.