Who will be Governor of Maryland after Hogan?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the SC ruling today helps Franchot big time. No way in hell can MD go to either of the Republicans. People who would've considered Moore are going to strategically vote for the moderate Franchot.

This makes no sense. Wes Moore is a centrist candidate. Franchot is actually more liberal. And why would overturning Roe make someone vote more moderate? Or make someone want to vote for an old white guy even?


Old white guys get nominated when Democrats are operating from a place of fear.

See: Joe Biden’s 2020 Presidential primary campaign rescued by strategic black voters in the South.

Franchot is gonna win this, just watch.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I moved to Maryland about 16 years ago and don't understand how a state dominated by Democrats for so long manages to have such a short bench of qualified candidates for governor. Ehrlich and Hogan aren't amazing politicians but even I (die hard liberal) had a hard time pulling the lever for Katherine Kennedy Townsend ("I have Kennedy in my name") or Anthony Brown or Ben Jealous.

Seems like I should be prepared for another candidate from the Democratic establishment who has spent their life in government and has all the inspiration of a dish towel. My wife will join a million other Democrats who vote for the Republican businessman who will be our next governor.


Hell no

Extremely weathly here never ever voting republican again nor is anyone in our circle

Nope never republican ex republican

They lie they cheat they ruined this country

Raising taxes not on my vote social security gone not on my vote
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I think the SC ruling today helps Franchot big time. No way in hell can MD go to either of the Republicans. People who would've considered Moore are going to strategically vote for the moderate Franchot.

This makes no sense. Wes Moore is a centrist candidate. Franchot is actually more liberal. And why would overturning Roe make someone vote more moderate? Or make someone want to vote for an old white guy even?


Old white guys get nominated when Democrats are operating from a place of fear.

See: Joe Biden’s 2020 Presidential primary campaign rescued by strategic black voters in the South.

Franchot is gonna win this, just watch.

If you live in Maryland, I am going to guess that you are either new to MD or your life is completely structured around DC.

Roe will have zero impact on the democratic primary and the overturn of Roe does not favor Franchot, who is not running a progressive campaign.

The campaign will 100% be about who’s supporters vote and how many. Franchot has the advantage that he has a lot of name recognition and people have voted for him multiple times in the past. However, despite living in Takoma Park, he has a disadvantage in that he is least popular with people of color and consequently will have a challenge in the high population areas of the state, including Montgomery and PG Counties and Baltimore City. His base is primarily to quintessential Maryland conservative Democratic voter, who is white, drives a big SUV and lives in the suburbs/exurbs. He will undoubtedly win the white areas of the Eastern Shore, Frederick, Howard, Carroll and Anne Arundel. He also has a good chance to pick up a lot of votes in Baltimore County, which is a big county with a lot of people. But will that be enough votes? Maybe, considering that the remaining candidates will split the Montgomery and PG County votes. Combined with Baltimore City, these three jurisdictions have supplied the votes for every Democratic governor nomination since Glendening and it is also where Franchot is weakest.
Anonymous
This race is between Franchot and Moore at this point (sorry Perez fans). If I had to pick a winner, I'd say it'll be Franchot just solely based on name recognition alone.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the SC ruling today helps Franchot big time. No way in hell can MD go to either of the Republicans. People who would've considered Moore are going to strategically vote for the moderate Franchot.

This makes no sense. Wes Moore is a centrist candidate. Franchot is actually more liberal. And why would overturning Roe make someone vote more moderate? Or make someone want to vote for an old white guy even?


Old white guys get nominated when Democrats are operating from a place of fear.

See: Joe Biden’s 2020 Presidential primary campaign rescued by strategic black voters in the South.

Franchot is gonna win this, just watch.

If you live in Maryland, I am going to guess that you are either new to MD or your life is completely structured around DC.

Roe will have zero impact on the democratic primary and the overturn of Roe does not favor Franchot, who is not running a progressive campaign.

The campaign will 100% be about who’s supporters vote and how many. Franchot has the advantage that he has a lot of name recognition and people have voted for him multiple times in the past. However, despite living in Takoma Park, he has a disadvantage in that he is least popular with people of color and consequently will have a challenge in the high population areas of the state, including Montgomery and PG Counties and Baltimore City. His base is primarily to quintessential Maryland conservative Democratic voter, who is white, drives a big SUV and lives in the suburbs/exurbs. He will undoubtedly win the white areas of the Eastern Shore, Frederick, Howard, Carroll and Anne Arundel. He also has a good chance to pick up a lot of votes in Baltimore County, which is a big county with a lot of people. But will that be enough votes? Maybe, considering that the remaining candidates will split the Montgomery and PG County votes. Combined with Baltimore City, these three jurisdictions have supplied the votes for every Democratic governor nomination since Glendening and it is also where Franchot is weakest.


Do you have polling that shows he's the least popular with BIPOC voters?
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Anonymous wrote:Who is the closest to Hogan? I'm looking for a moderate!


Kelly Schulz will literally be an extension of Larry Hogan, and has my vote over the clown car of a democratic field.


Her major ding is that she’s a republican. Republicans like Larry Hogan don’t come by often.


She is not at all like Hogan. Hogan only won lasr time due to the untimely death of the Dem candidate. We aren't voting in Republicans again.

Kamenetz wasn’t favored to win the primary and if he did he would have lost, just like Ben Jealous. Keeping in mind that this was for Hogan’s second term.

For Hogan’s first term, he easily beat Anthony Brown who deserved to lose because he’s a terrible politician who has done nothing in his career to this point and has ascended state politics due to party machine backing. His main claim to fame at the time was bungling the state health care exchange, which was the only responsibility he’d been given as Lt Governor to O’Malley. Democrats might have had a chance to stop Hogan at the outset with Gansler. But the machine vote turned out for Brown. A similar thing happened with Erlich and Kennedy-Townsend, so it’s surprising that state Democrats refuse to learn their lesson. Erlich ended up being a terrible governor and lost to O’Malley and Hogan learned that lesson.


Nope. Kamenetz would have absolutely won. Jealous never had a chance, and the death of Kamenetz changed nothing for him.

Schultz is completely right wing, while Hogan made it clear he was a centrist at the time of election, even if he wasn't fully centrist. He also stood up to Trump. Schulz will not be elected, but if the situation repeats, she would lean in to a R president like a bug to light.
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Anonymous wrote:Who is the closest to Hogan? I'm looking for a moderate!


Kelly Schulz will literally be an extension of Larry Hogan, and has my vote over the clown car of a democratic field.


Her major ding is that she’s a republican. Republicans like Larry Hogan don’t come by often.


She is not at all like Hogan. Hogan only won lasr time due to the untimely death of the Dem candidate. We aren't voting in Republicans again.



Here is where I differ, and my comment isn’t directed at any of the current nominees for governor. I think “we” should vote for the best candidate regardless of party affiliation. by only voting Democrat we got O’Malley and would’ve gotten Ben jealous. By refusing to vote Republican we would not have gotten Larry Hogan. I think that extreme political thinking or rigid political thinking is bad for the state.

At this point I don’t know who I think will be a good governor, I’m researching and trying to learn.


I honestly don't understand Md's love for Larry Hogan. And I'm not saying this because I'm a democrat (I am), but because I don't understand why everyone thinks he is so great. He lied about the covid test from south korea, he violated the states open meetings act, he was found the violated the first amendment when he blocked people from his social media sites, and now he is trying to sell himself as some "not a republican" republican. I honestly don't get it.

We don't "love" him. We realize it could have been much worse and we didn't have a viable Dem candidate. Kamenetz would've won, but he died. As for me, a Dem, I wasn't happy with what he vetoed in legislation, but there were workarounds in our Dem legislative majority to overturn them. He also denounced Trump, and was vocal about it....I thought that was great. He didn't lie about the tests, it was just a complete blunder, but at least he tried. He did block his social media, but he got more grief from Trumpers than anyone. It was getting crazy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This race is between Franchot and Moore at this point (sorry Perez fans). If I had to pick a winner, I'd say it'll be Franchot just solely based on name recognition alone.

Yup. Also don’t think Baltimore and PG county primary turnout is going to be very strong in July.
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Anonymous wrote:I think the SC ruling today helps Franchot big time. No way in hell can MD go to either of the Republicans. People who would've considered Moore are going to strategically vote for the moderate Franchot.

This makes no sense. Wes Moore is a centrist candidate. Franchot is actually more liberal. And why would overturning Roe make someone vote more moderate? Or make someone want to vote for an old white guy even?


Old white guys get nominated when Democrats are operating from a place of fear.

See: Joe Biden’s 2020 Presidential primary campaign rescued by strategic black voters in the South.

Franchot is gonna win this, just watch.

If you live in Maryland, I am going to guess that you are either new to MD or your life is completely structured around DC.

Roe will have zero impact on the democratic primary and the overturn of Roe does not favor Franchot, who is not running a progressive campaign.

The campaign will 100% be about who’s supporters vote and how many. Franchot has the advantage that he has a lot of name recognition and people have voted for him multiple times in the past. However, despite living in Takoma Park, he has a disadvantage in that he is least popular with people of color and consequently will have a challenge in the high population areas of the state, including Montgomery and PG Counties and Baltimore City. His base is primarily to quintessential Maryland conservative Democratic voter, who is white, drives a big SUV and lives in the suburbs/exurbs. He will undoubtedly win the white areas of the Eastern Shore, Frederick, Howard, Carroll and Anne Arundel. He also has a good chance to pick up a lot of votes in Baltimore County, which is a big county with a lot of people. But will that be enough votes? Maybe, considering that the remaining candidates will split the Montgomery and PG County votes. Combined with Baltimore City, these three jurisdictions have supplied the votes for every Democratic governor nomination since Glendening and it is also where Franchot is weakest.


Do you have polling that shows he's the least popular with BIPOC voters?

Do you have polling data that shows that he is popular with Black voters? He has zero relationships with Black lawmakers in the Assembly. None. It’s why he’s pulled Monique Anderson-Walker into the race as Lt. Gov, who is a first term district CM from PG County. The guy is 75 and has been around forever. There are no prominent state Black democrats that lined up with him. He’s spent more time campaigning on the Eastern Shore than Baltimore. Absolute joke to suggest otherwise.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the SC ruling today helps Franchot big time. No way in hell can MD go to either of the Republicans. People who would've considered Moore are going to strategically vote for the moderate Franchot.

This makes no sense. Wes Moore is a centrist candidate. Franchot is actually more liberal. And why would overturning Roe make someone vote more moderate? Or make someone want to vote for an old white guy even?


Old white guys get nominated when Democrats are operating from a place of fear.

See: Joe Biden’s 2020 Presidential primary campaign rescued by strategic black voters in the South.

Franchot is gonna win this, just watch.

If you live in Maryland, I am going to guess that you are either new to MD or your life is completely structured around DC.

Roe will have zero impact on the democratic primary and the overturn of Roe does not favor Franchot, who is not running a progressive campaign.

The campaign will 100% be about who’s supporters vote and how many. Franchot has the advantage that he has a lot of name recognition and people have voted for him multiple times in the past. However, despite living in Takoma Park, he has a disadvantage in that he is least popular with people of color and consequently will have a challenge in the high population areas of the state, including Montgomery and PG Counties and Baltimore City. His base is primarily to quintessential Maryland conservative Democratic voter, who is white, drives a big SUV and lives in the suburbs/exurbs. He will undoubtedly win the white areas of the Eastern Shore, Frederick, Howard, Carroll and Anne Arundel. He also has a good chance to pick up a lot of votes in Baltimore County, which is a big county with a lot of people. But will that be enough votes? Maybe, considering that the remaining candidates will split the Montgomery and PG County votes. Combined with Baltimore City, these three jurisdictions have supplied the votes for every Democratic governor nomination since Glendening and it is also where Franchot is weakest.


Do you have polling that shows he's the least popular with BIPOC voters?

Do you have polling data that shows that he is popular with Black voters? He has zero relationships with Black lawmakers in the Assembly. None. It’s why he’s pulled Monique Anderson-Walker into the race as Lt. Gov, who is a first term district CM from PG County. The guy is 75 and has been around forever. There are no prominent state Black democrats that lined up with him. He’s spent more time campaigning on the Eastern Shore than Baltimore. Absolute joke to suggest otherwise.


I wasn’t trying to be antagonistic. It was a sincere question. A significant portion of voters (or any race) don’t pay much attention and just vote by name recognition. And none of the candidates particularly stand out, for good or for ill. I feel Franchot will take this on name alone, barring any significant event before the 19th.
Anonymous
What is up with the creepy bicycle-built-for-two ad from unknown white guy from MoCo (never elected to any office)? His black female lieutenant Gov candidate just rides along....behind him. Poor optics.
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Anonymous wrote:What is up with the creepy bicycle-built-for-two ad from unknown white guy from MoCo (never elected to any office)? His black female lieutenant Gov candidate just rides along....behind him. Poor optics.


John Baron??? Yeah I got his ad last night on my phone and was sooooo unimpressed.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the SC ruling today helps Franchot big time. No way in hell can MD go to either of the Republicans. People who would've considered Moore are going to strategically vote for the moderate Franchot.

This makes no sense. Wes Moore is a centrist candidate. Franchot is actually more liberal. And why would overturning Roe make someone vote more moderate? Or make someone want to vote for an old white guy even?


Old white guys get nominated when Democrats are operating from a place of fear.

See: Joe Biden’s 2020 Presidential primary campaign rescued by strategic black voters in the South.

Franchot is gonna win this, just watch.

If you live in Maryland, I am going to guess that you are either new to MD or your life is completely structured around DC.

Roe will have zero impact on the democratic primary and the overturn of Roe does not favor Franchot, who is not running a progressive campaign.

The campaign will 100% be about who’s supporters vote and how many. Franchot has the advantage that he has a lot of name recognition and people have voted for him multiple times in the past. However, despite living in Takoma Park, he has a disadvantage in that he is least popular with people of color and consequently will have a challenge in the high population areas of the state, including Montgomery and PG Counties and Baltimore City. His base is primarily to quintessential Maryland conservative Democratic voter, who is white, drives a big SUV and lives in the suburbs/exurbs. He will undoubtedly win the white areas of the Eastern Shore, Frederick, Howard, Carroll and Anne Arundel. He also has a good chance to pick up a lot of votes in Baltimore County, which is a big county with a lot of people. But will that be enough votes? Maybe, considering that the remaining candidates will split the Montgomery and PG County votes. Combined with Baltimore City, these three jurisdictions have supplied the votes for every Democratic governor nomination since Glendening and it is also where Franchot is weakest.


Do you have polling that shows he's the least popular with BIPOC voters?

Do you have polling data that shows that he is popular with Black voters? He has zero relationships with Black lawmakers in the Assembly. None. It’s why he’s pulled Monique Anderson-Walker into the race as Lt. Gov, who is a first term district CM from PG County. The guy is 75 and has been around forever. There are no prominent state Black democrats that lined up with him. He’s spent more time campaigning on the Eastern Shore than Baltimore. Absolute joke to suggest otherwise.


TBF there seems to be a theme of picking female Lt. Gov candidates, it just so happens she is black.
Anonymous
What exactly does the Lt. Governor do? Maryland has one of the most powerful Governors in the United States, I would hazard to guess the Lt. Gov is more symbolic than anything given that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What exactly does the Lt. Governor do? Maryland has one of the most powerful Governors in the United States, I would hazard to guess the Lt. Gov is more symbolic than anything given that.


Waits in the wings in case the Governor dies.
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