Fed Hiring Freeze

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Office of Management and Budget stated that if someone was offered a job on or before Jan. 22 and have documentation showing a start date of Feb. 22 or earlier should report to work.

I'll be shocked if any agency actually abides by this. I'm still waiting to see what path DHS takes.

Why are you shocked?

[Anonymous]

How about civilians applying for jobs at the navy medical center? Does the freeze apply in that situation?

[Anonymous]

http://1yxsm73j7aop3quc9y5ifaw3.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/M-17-17-Immediate-Actions-and-Initial-Guidance-for-Federal-Civilian-Hir.pdf


OMB Guidance on hiring freeze

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: http://1yxsm73j7aop3quc9y5ifaw3.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/M-17-17-Immediate-Actions-and-Initial-Guidance-for-Federal-Civilian-Hir.pdf


OMB Guidance on hiring freeze

If only there was data from other departments as well. So far there's data from IRS to the contrary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone with the Board of Veterans Appeals heard anything? Was supposed to start on the 6th and despite various attempts got no information. I, too, gave my job 2 week notice and will be out of a job on the 1st.

Why would you do this? Not to pile on, but EVERYONE knew this was going to happen.

To answer your question: because I was told on December 30th it will take a week for all paper work to be ready blah blah, on the 6th I got a start date and it did not occur to me that a freeze would mean I could not enter on duty. Specifically hiring official said that if hiring is in the works a freeze won't block it. Now obviously what he said isn't binding and hence I am asking if anyone here heard anything.

So far I have seen reports that DHS is good to go for now.
IRS sent emails telling those with start date not to report.

And to comment on your comment, if you have nothing to say, no one needs your input.

NP. It didn't occur to you that a freeze might mean you couldn't start? This was all over the news as a very distinct possibility. I am surprised that your HR was so cavalier since even our HR (which is usually glacially slow and generally worthless) was doing everything they could to get people in ahead of time. But at the end of the day, s/he is not the one out of the job and can go back to being generally incompetent. You really should have taken more ownership of your own situation and done even a modicum of research which would have revealed you should have gotten on board already.

And, so you don't accuse me of giving no news, if you were at my agency, the assumption is that you would be SOL as they are not likely bringing most people in, but it is not set in stone at this point.

My question was specific to Board of Veteran Appeals, if that's not your department, I do not care for your "news". As aforementioned, some departments already sent emails telling people with EODs that they're good to go, others notified that they can't start, and some were told they do not have an answer yet.

If you're bored at work, play candy crush, no need to comment on posts just for the sake of commenting.

I am a little bored at work. I have a cushy federal job like the one you just pissed away. And information how other agencies and departments are handling the same issue is relevant to what is likely to happen with your (former?) position, even if there may be some variation in approaches.

What a prize jackass!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone with the Board of Veterans Appeals heard anything? Was supposed to start on the 6th and despite various attempts got no information. I, too, gave my job 2 week notice and will be out of a job on the 1st.

Why would you do this? Not to pile on, but EVERYONE knew this was going to happen.

To answer your question: because I was told on December 30th it will take a week for all paper work to be ready blah blah, on the 6th I got a start date and it did not occur to me that a freeze would mean I could not enter on duty. Specifically hiring official said that if hiring is in the works a freeze won't block it. Now obviously what he said isn't binding and hence I am asking if anyone here heard anything.

So far I have seen reports that DHS is good to go for now.
IRS sent emails telling those with start date not to report.

And to comment on your comment, if you have nothing to say, no one needs your input.

NP. It didn't occur to you that a freeze might mean you couldn't start? This was all over the news as a very distinct possibility. I am surprised that your HR was so cavalier since even our HR (which is usually glacially slow and generally worthless) was doing everything they could to get people in ahead of time. But at the end of the day, s/he is not the one out of the job and can go back to being generally incompetent. You really should have taken more ownership of your own situation and done even a modicum of research which would have revealed you should have gotten on board already.

And, so you don't accuse me of giving no news, if you were at my agency, the assumption is that you would be SOL as they are not likely bringing most people in, but it is not set in stone at this point.

My question was specific to Board of Veteran Appeals, if that's not your department, I do not care for your "news". As aforementioned, some departments already sent emails telling people with EODs that they're good to go, others notified that they can't start, and some were told they do not have an answer yet.

If you're bored at work, play candy crush, no need to comment on posts just for the sake of commenting.

I am a little bored at work. I have a cushy federal job like the one you just pissed away. And information how other agencies and departments are handling the same issue is relevant to what is likely to happen with your (former?) position, even if there may be some variation in approaches.

NP. Wow, you are the worst.

[Anonymous]

Yesterday, I received a notice/link to fill out my security clearance documentation (just a Public Trust) from my agency. I haven't received a final offer yet; tentative offer was received on 1/19/17. The hiring manager asked me to start on 2/6/17, but I don't have official documentation from HR yet.

I'm not really sure if this is a good sign, or just business as usual until they get a strong clarification on TO candidates without start dates.

Good luck to all of you, and I do feel bad for anyone who quit a job and is stuck in limbo right now.

[Anonymous]

Yesterday, I received a notice/link to fill out my security clearance documentation (just a Public Trust) from my agency. I haven't received a final offer yet; tentative offer was received on 1/19/17. The hiring manager asked me to start on 2/6/17, but I don't have official documentation from HR yet.

I'm not really sure if this is a good sign, or just business as usual until they get a strong clarification on TO candidates without start dates.

Thank you! I'm clinging to this as my hope. I have left 2 messages for my HR contact, and emailed my once and (hopefully) future boss, but haven't heard back. Fingers and toes hurt they're crossed so hard! I hope you get behind your new desk SOON!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: http://1yxsm73j7aop3quc9y5ifaw3.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/M-17-17-Immediate-Actions-and-Initial-Guidance-for-Federal-Civilian-Hir.pdf


OMB Guidance on hiring freeze

If only there was data from other departments as well. So far there's data from IRS to the contrary.

OMBs interpretation should apply to all agencies.

[Anonymous]

I also have a TO and a tentative start date of Feb 21. No word yet from my HR Rep, but until this morning I was thinking the 'worst case' is that my start date would get pushed back a couple of months.

But this morning I found this:

https://www.defense.gov/Portals/1/Documents/pubs/OSD000467-17-RES-Final.pdf

A RIF would definitely make federal employment in the coming months very challenging.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I also have a TO and a tentative start date of Feb 21. No word yet from my HR Rep, but until this morning I was thinking the 'worst case' is that my start date would get pushed back a couple of months.

But this morning I found this:

https://www.defense.gov/Portals/1/Documents/pubs/OSD000467-17-RES-Final.pdf

A RIF would definitely make federal employment in the coming months very challenging.

I think the OMB memo is only for firm offer letters, not TO, but I hope I am wrong and you get it!

[Anonymous]

Not sure if this was brought up but from looking at usajobs, there are still vacancies before and after the freeze date posted. Wouldn't they be purged or canceled if they aren't national security related jobs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this was brought up but from looking at usajobs, there are still vacancies before and after the freeze date posted. Wouldn't they be purged or canceled if they aren't national security related jobs?

You would think but this is the government again, lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this was brought up but from looking at usajobs, there are still vacancies before and after the freeze date posted. Wouldn't they be purged or canceled if they aren't national security related jobs?

I read somewhere that agencies were to 'continue business as usual', but stop short of sending out anymore offers. In other words, jobs will be announced and interviews conducted, but no TO's would be made until after the freeze.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: http://1yxsm73j7aop3quc9y5ifaw3.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/M-17-17-Immediate-Actions-and-Initial-Guidance-for-Federal-Civilian-Hir.pdf


OMB Guidance on hiring freeze

If only there was data from other departments as well. So far there's data from IRS to the contrary.

OMBs interpretation should apply to all agencies.

Should is the key word, my HR didn't even know about it, and when I emailed it to her she asked what is my question about it. Each department can do what they want at the end. It could also be a political thing, meaning, let's say they have 50 offers they made but can only justify 20 as necessary, they will pick whatever 20 they want not based on when they made the offer etc.