John Oliver slams Democrats who think transgender people lost them the election

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Anonymous wrote:I know and have known more than a handful of adolescent girls and a few boys who are dealing with gender identity issues. It is mainly girls, honestly. I used to work in a school and I have teen boys. I think there are multiple causes and it is a complicated phenomenon. Unfortunately, the R's have demonized the issue and in turn the kids who are clearly struggling along with their parents. I find it sad all around and not sure how it became such a political issue.


Except that no one is demonizing anyone. The issue is simply that biological males should not be playing sports against biological females. Why can’t you grasp this?


The issue is much bigger than sports. And yes people, the most vulnerable here, are being demonized.


I'm a huge supporter of individual rights but I have to agree with the PP if simply stating the fact that biological males shouldn't be allowed to compete biological females in athletics/sports. That's just basic common sense and acknowledging that obvious truth isn't demonizing anyone.


I understand that! But rhetoric on the right especially is demonizing those who are struggling with these issues. I am NOT talking about sports.


I'm not "on the right" and I am specifically talking about sports. Nothing else.


Great. But again, the right has used bigotry to win. Many are couching it in concern for girls sports. Ok, legit issue but in bad faith for many who don't give damn about protecting women except when it is useful politically for them.


Exactly. Go look at the voting records of those on the right and see who voted against the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act, which also deals with violence on college campuses. Protectors of women my ass. Performative BS.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


Schools are quite literally teaching gender identity ideology
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.
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Anonymous wrote:I know and have known more than a handful of adolescent girls and a few boys who are dealing with gender identity issues. It is mainly girls, honestly. I used to work in a school and I have teen boys. I think there are multiple causes and it is a complicated phenomenon. Unfortunately, the R's have demonized the issue and in turn the kids who are clearly struggling along with their parents. I find it sad all around and not sure how it became such a political issue.


Except that no one is demonizing anyone. The issue is simply that biological males should not be playing sports against biological females. Why can’t you grasp this?


The issue is much bigger than sports. And yes people, the most vulnerable here, are being demonized.


I'm a huge supporter of individual rights but I have to agree with the PP if simply stating the fact that biological males shouldn't be allowed to compete biological females in athletics/sports. That's just basic common sense and acknowledging that obvious truth isn't demonizing anyone.


I understand that! But rhetoric on the right especially is demonizing those who are struggling with these issues. I am NOT talking about sports.


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I’m a vocal trans rights proponent and the sports stuff just isn’t the huge deal PPs are making it out to be. It’s minuscule. But the fact is that it’s masking true demonization of trans people in general. It’s a platform to express hatred for them masquerading as concern for women and girls sports. It’s so obvious because it’s just not any real concern. Look at the comments here. Equating trans rights to some douche high schooler dressing like a fox. GMAFB.

But don’t worry. All trans kids will evaporate from your schools on Jan 21.


Yes, we've heard you. We've heard a lot of earnest people telling us that what we know about men and women, and girls and boys, is wrong and harmful. We've heard you.

And we aren't happy about it.


I don’t care if you’re happy or not. I will continue to speak and be vocal. Unlike you I’m sure, I actually know transgender people and have spoken to them. Yes, real live trans folks not made up foxes in high school. There’s real harm being done with this rhetoric.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


Schools are quite literally teaching gender identity ideology


Do parents cease to exist? They want prayer back in schools now. We’re an atheist family. Is my kid going to turn Christian because there’s prayer in school? No. Because I’m still the parent.
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Anonymous wrote:I know and have known more than a handful of adolescent girls and a few boys who are dealing with gender identity issues. It is mainly girls, honestly. I used to work in a school and I have teen boys. I think there are multiple causes and it is a complicated phenomenon. Unfortunately, the R's have demonized the issue and in turn the kids who are clearly struggling along with their parents. I find it sad all around and not sure how it became such a political issue.


Except that no one is demonizing anyone. The issue is simply that biological males should not be playing sports against biological females. Why can’t you grasp this?


The issue is much bigger than sports. And yes people, the most vulnerable here, are being demonized.


I'm a huge supporter of individual rights but I have to agree with the PP if simply stating the fact that biological males shouldn't be allowed to compete biological females in athletics/sports. That's just basic common sense and acknowledging that obvious truth isn't demonizing anyone.


Yes. We don't need to all suffer the bad consequences of a trump presidency to accomplish that.



Then why did Biden/Harris let it come to this?
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


Schools are quite literally teaching gender identity ideology


Do parents cease to exist? They want prayer back in schools now. We’re an atheist family. Is my kid going to turn Christian because there’s prayer in school? No. Because I’m still the parent.


Which is why school policies forbidding staff from telling parents about a child’s going by a different gender at school are especially pernicious.
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Anonymous wrote:I know and have known more than a handful of adolescent girls and a few boys who are dealing with gender identity issues. It is mainly girls, honestly. I used to work in a school and I have teen boys. I think there are multiple causes and it is a complicated phenomenon. Unfortunately, the R's have demonized the issue and in turn the kids who are clearly struggling along with their parents. I find it sad all around and not sure how it became such a political issue.


Except that no one is demonizing anyone. The issue is simply that biological males should not be playing sports against biological females. Why can’t you grasp this?


The issue is much bigger than sports. And yes people, the most vulnerable here, are being demonized.


I'm a huge supporter of individual rights but I have to agree with the PP if simply stating the fact that biological males shouldn't be allowed to compete biological females in athletics/sports. That's just basic common sense and acknowledging that obvious truth isn't demonizing anyone.


Yes. We don't need to all suffer the bad consequences of a trump presidency to accomplish that.



Then why did Biden/Harris let it come to this?


Because they underestimated the bigotry of many of Americans.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.
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Anonymous wrote:The whole transgender debate is bizarre. It is such a small portion of the country. The whole transgender in sports argument is such a bad faith argument.


Not a young woman's athletic scholarship depends on pitching on the softball team or the university allowing a trans man to take your place and scholarship because they can't compete with non-trans men.


Kamala voter and I agree—the fact that this rarely happens is totally irrelevant to a low info voter. They don’t like it, people have to stop defending it and not be afraid to say that it’s wrong.


If it happens a single time, it’s happened too many times.

Biological males should not play sports on any level with women. They are not women, women are women. It’s not hurting their feelings, it’s telling the truth.


None of you gave a shit about women and girls sports until it gave you a reason to have a grievance against transwomen.


The only people I know who bring up this topic are female athletes and parents of daughters.


Republican men were bringing it up constantly and I would expect that to continue even after Trump bans trans girls in girl’s sports because Republicans would melt away if they didn’t have something to be angry about. People still talk about Lia Thomas and she hasn’t swam in 2.5 years. Republicans talk more about trans people than trans people do.


Then it's good that Democrats are finally talking about trans men. Trans men do not spark joy in the electorate despite Kamala's beliefs.


this is also false. the dems actually did not run on progressive identity issues at ALL. find me one democratic ad that did. go on, i'll wait.

Let's see:

You spent over a decade trying to remold society to impose transgenderism as a "human rights issue."

You bastardized everything from science to education to laws like Title IX in order to replace sex with gender identity.

You destroyed careers to punish dissent, stripped parents of custody, and passed forced speech "anti-misgendering" laws in places like Harris's home state of California.

You groomed children with patently false ideas like selecting their own gender and then infiltrated education and corrupt medical bodies so teachers and doctors would affirm the lies you told these children.

You promoted the misuse of powerful drugs to chemically castrate children into ghoulish facsimiles of the opposite sex so the adult transgender "women" who run your cult could say "see, it's natural! even children are trans!"

AND THEN, seeing a major backlash building, you decided you would try a trick. You decided not to admit or repudiate any of your misdeeds, but to instead keep quiet about them. You colluded with legacy media to try to shift the narrative and pretend those blowing the whistle on your insane deeds were the ones "obsessed." You thought you were so clever in pretending the 10-year timeline in which your cult tried to gaslight, intimidate, indoctrinate society into transgenderism never happened.

But oops, it didn't work. Voters' memories are longer than three seconds as it turns out.

Yet you're still out in force trying to lie that what you made sure was happening for 10 years never happened. Maybe if you keep going, people won't notice you have never abandoned your transgender agenda and still intend to impose it at the next opportunity. We'll see, I guess.


+1 to every single point here. What the left has been doing is monstrous, and I haven’t forgotten — nor will I.
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Anonymous wrote:I know and have known more than a handful of adolescent girls and a few boys who are dealing with gender identity issues. It is mainly girls, honestly. I used to work in a school and I have teen boys. I think there are multiple causes and it is a complicated phenomenon. Unfortunately, the R's have demonized the issue and in turn the kids who are clearly struggling along with their parents. I find it sad all around and not sure how it became such a political issue.


Except that no one is demonizing anyone. The issue is simply that biological males should not be playing sports against biological females. Why can’t you grasp this?


The issue is much bigger than sports. And yes people, the most vulnerable here, are being demonized.


I'm a huge supporter of individual rights but I have to agree with the PP if simply stating the fact that biological males shouldn't be allowed to compete biological females in athletics/sports. That's just basic common sense and acknowledging that obvious truth isn't demonizing anyone.


I was glad to see the Washington Post Editorial Board now supporting this commonsense approach.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/11/14/moulton-trans-women-sports/

It is true that bigots will seize upon the sports issue to demonize transgender people. I find the issue somewhat similar to how antisemites will seize upon criticism of Israel to demonize Jews. But this doesn't mean that we should never criticize Israel or set boundaries when trans rights conflict with women's rights.
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Anonymous wrote:I know and have known more than a handful of adolescent girls and a few boys who are dealing with gender identity issues. It is mainly girls, honestly. I used to work in a school and I have teen boys. I think there are multiple causes and it is a complicated phenomenon. Unfortunately, the R's have demonized the issue and in turn the kids who are clearly struggling along with their parents. I find it sad all around and not sure how it became such a political issue.


Except that no one is demonizing anyone. The issue is simply that biological males should not be playing sports against biological females. Why can’t you grasp this?


The issue is much bigger than sports. And yes people, the most vulnerable here, are being demonized.


I'm a huge supporter of individual rights but I have to agree with the PP if simply stating the fact that biological males shouldn't be allowed to compete biological females in athletics/sports. That's just basic common sense and acknowledging that obvious truth isn't demonizing anyone.


Yes. We don't need to all suffer the bad consequences of a trump presidency to accomplish that.



Then why did Biden/Harris let it come to this?


Because they underestimated the bigotry of many of Americans.


Are you the PP who said “yes” to this all being common sense?

Odd how people go from Biden supporters to bigots in four years, no?
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


Schools are quite literally teaching gender identity ideology


Do parents cease to exist? They want prayer back in schools now. We’re an atheist family. Is my kid going to turn Christian because there’s prayer in school? No. Because I’m still the parent.


Which is why school policies forbidding staff from telling parents about a child’s going by a different gender at school are especially pernicious.


Why? Are they receiving surgery and puberty blockers at school?
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I loathe the Far Left, but I voted for Harris because I feel strongly that Trump is even worse.

When Trump is out of the picture, that calculus inevitably changes. If Democrats decide to double down on Far Left stuff, they will lose.


Same. As a moderate independent, I could never ever vote for Trump. But other Republicans? Yes, I will vote for them, once Trump is gone from the party.



I'm afraid Trump is masking how out-of-touch the Democrats are from the majority of voters. A LOT of people only voted for Harris in order to vote "against" Trump.

Granted the GOP is just as bad with the MAGA stuff. But, I suspect that will fade without Trump's active patronage.

Basically, when Trump is gone, the GOP could easily win the POTUS by running a Chris Christy or Mitt Romney type.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?
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