Widespread looting in Philadelphia right now

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Food for thought......

I’ll spare everyone: right winger starts from a right wing lie (DeFuNd ThE pOlIcE) and it goes from there. Nothing connects to anything and if the guy was decently bright he’d have figured out how his entire screed about crime is basically about the police not doing their jobs well.

LAPD’s budget is $1.9 billion. That’s 16% of the city’s annual budget. If you count their benefits and pensions, the budget is $3.15 billion and that’s 26.8% of the annual budget. https://www.uscannenbergmedia.com/2023/04/18/karen-bass-increases-lapd-budget-by-63/#:~:text=The%20LAPD%20currently%20operates%20on,26.8%25%20of%20the%20overall%20budget.

The Chicago Police Department’s budget was increased by $64 million to $1.94 billion. https://news.wttw.com/2023/01/02/sparing-residents-tax-hikes-months-election-chicago-s-2023-budget-takes-effect#:~:text=The%20Chicago%20Police%20Department%27s%20budget,a%20total%20of%20%241.94%20billion.

NYPD’s budget for 2024 is $5.44 billion dollars, which is actually a cut of 88.1 million, but I don’t think five and a half billion dollars is really a tight budget. https://council.nyc.gov/budget/wp-content/uploads/sites/54/2023/03/NYPD-1.pdf

At some point maybe we could perhaps entertain revisiting how the police police. For this kind of money you’d think that there be some active police work.

[Anonymous]

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Yes to both PPs above. I'd venture to say that most PPs here are also tired Dems. Dem here. I'm done. Crime is up in DC and bleeding into NOVA (hello, Tysons), and I'm done. I am solidly behind reproductive rights but am wondering how much crime we have to put up with to support that.

Access to abortion strongly correlates with reduction in crime in the next generation.

Ha! True.

Democrats need to signify to their elected representatives that they've had enough of restorative justice, and they want harsh consequences so our streets can be safe.

Why the heck is that too much to ask?!?

It’s getting to the point where they will demand that. The impetus for this progressive justice reform/restorative justice stuff was because of some instances of police abuse and also because of the disparate rates of incarceration. It’ll went into overdrive post-2020. But obviously, Occam’s Razor has shown that lo and behold, lessening penalties through no bail, allowing speeders to keep licenses, liberal das not prosecuting etc…these novel methods are complete and total failures. I’m sorry it’s sucks, but we need to go back to just taking criminals off the streets. There is no better solution. Trying to fix poverty as the solution is a fools errand. Obviously, we should try to do that. However, just letting people shoplift by basically not going after thieves or seeing liberals city politicians raising the penalty for felony shoplifting to $1000 is not helpful.

Hmm. It doesn’t seem like your version of reality aligns with what’s actually happening. https://www.findlaw.com/traffic/traffic-tickets/reckless-driving.html Now this doesn’t actually show how speeding/reckless driving are prosecuted and I wasn’t able to find that, but maybe you can.

And Texas’s threshold for felony theft is $2500. Seems a little higher than that of “liberal cities,” no? In fact when South Carolina raised their felony shoplifting limit to $2000, their crime continued to drop by 15%, and rates of average value of thefts stayed around $200. From this same site it seems that addressing substance abuse is a massive way to prevent crime. https://blog.agilenceinc.com/the-real-impact-of-rising-felony-shoplifting-thresholds-on-retail

It appears that things are not quite like you present them.

Here ya go, bud:

An example progressive criminal justice:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/03/16/rock-creek-parkway-crash-suv-tickets/

dC allows anyone to renew their license even people like this: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/one-driver-with-186k-in-unpaid-tickets-what-dc-ticket-data-shows/3339753/?amp=1

My example was correct. It’s because of pandering city council idiots listening to loud SJWs who drown out common sense at council meetings. These are folks who call tickets “oppression” and that’s why we can’t even enforce traffic safety.

And yes, California lowered their felony shoplifting to $950 and it had consequences. The root of the problem lies with the Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act, also known as Prop 47, which downgraded crimes like theft of goods under $950 from felonies to misdemeanors.

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/shoplifting-crimes-in-la-are-on-the-rise/

On a macro, national level these idiotic liberal progressive criminal justice reform policies make us all less safe. They let you feel good, but they actually make crime worse.

So stop with your crime apologist posts.

[Anonymous]

The current mentality among business owners in Philly is

-“get out while you still can.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Food for thought......

Then why is crime rising in rural and red states?

Hm?

Never get an answer for that one just obfuscation and avoidance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Food for thought......

Then why is crime rising in rural and red states?

Hm?

Never get an answer for that one just obfuscation and avoidance.

Sure, there are red states that show crime.

In what parts of those states is the crime located? Which cities? And what is the dominant political party in charge of the areas the crime is occurring. Look state by state and you’ll get a better picture. It’s blue cities.

[Anonymous]

New Mexico, Delaware, Illinois, Pennslyvania, Georgia, and North Carolina are (blood) red states?
Who knew.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Food for thought......

Then why is crime rising in rural and red states?

Hm?

Never get an answer for that one just obfuscation and avoidance.

15:39 has your obfuscation and avoidance.

[Anonymous]

I really hope, but who knows what the overall sentiment is from voters because I don’t know if polls are even reliable anymore, that crime is an issue for them in 2024. I’m so sick of weak liberal apologists. Your methods suck at crime.

On abortion, weed, renewable energy, yes I am with you, but crime? You suck.

You infantalize perpetrators of crime as if they can’t help but commit crime and you excuse crime at every turn. I hope there are enough fed up votes who factor this into their decision. I wish we had a moderate pro-choice, tough on crime candidate who would happily tune out your overwrought, harpy, “social justice” cries for leniency for criminals. You make my city less safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Food for thought......

Then why is crime rising in rural and red states?

Hm?

Never get an answer for that one just obfuscation and avoidance.

Sure, there are red states that show crime.

In what parts of those states is the crime located? Which cities? And what is the dominant political party in charge of the areas the crime is occurring. Look state by state and you’ll get a better picture. It’s blue cities.

Alaska has the highest homicide rate n the USA. What part of Alaska is run by these mythical soft on crime liberals?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Food for thought......

Then why is crime rising in rural and red states?

Hm?

Never get an answer for that one just obfuscation and avoidance.

Sure, there are red states that show crime.

In what parts of those states is the crime located? Which cities? And what is the dominant political party in charge of the areas the crime is occurring. Look state by state and you’ll get a better picture. It’s blue cities.

R U R A L

not cities

do you understand basic math?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really hope, but who knows what the overall sentiment is from voters because I don’t know if polls are even reliable anymore, that crime is an issue for them in 2024. I’m so sick of weak liberal apologists. Your methods suck at crime.

On abortion, weed, renewable energy, yes I am with you, but crime? You suck.

You infantalize perpetrators of crime as if they can’t help but commit crime and you excuse crime at every turn. I hope there are enough fed up votes who factor this into their decision. I wish we had a moderate pro-choice, tough on crime candidate who would happily tune out your overwrought, harpy, “social justice” cries for leniency for criminals. You make my city less safe.

Cannabis is legal. Not a crime.

You want to lock me in a cage for consuming a plant? Is that what freedom means to you? Not gonna happen. I am not a criminal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Food for thought......

Then why is crime rising in rural and red states?

Hm?

Never get an answer for that one just obfuscation and avoidance.

Sure, there are red states that show crime.

In what parts of those states is the crime located? Which cities? And what is the dominant political party in charge of the areas the crime is occurring. Look state by state and you’ll get a better picture. It’s blue cities.

Can see you don't live in rural or small town America. It's not an either or thing. White trash meth heads are a scourge in red America.

Tell you what. How about we put both small town AND urban degenerates in prison.

Win-win

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Food for thought......

Then why is crime rising in rural and red states?

Hm?

Never get an answer for that one just obfuscation and avoidance.

Sure, there are red states that show crime.

In what parts of those states is the crime located? Which cities? And what is the dominant political party in charge of the areas the crime is occurring. Look state by state and you’ll get a better picture. It’s blue cities.

Alaska has the highest homicide rate n the USA. What part of Alaska is run by these mythical soft on crime liberals?

That is counting suicides. It’s depressing as fk up there in the winter and men are much more effective at committing suicide than women. Anyway, strip those out and then compare the actual violent crime stats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really hope, but who knows what the overall sentiment is from voters because I don’t know if polls are even reliable anymore, that crime is an issue for them in 2024. I’m so sick of weak liberal apologists. Your methods suck at crime.

On abortion, weed, renewable energy, yes I am with you, but crime? You suck.

You infantalize perpetrators of crime as if they can’t help but commit crime and you excuse crime at every turn. I hope there are enough fed up votes who factor this into their decision. I wish we had a moderate pro-choice, tough on crime candidate who would happily tune out your overwrought, harpy, “social justice” cries for leniency for criminals. You make my city less safe.

Cannabis is legal. Not a crime.

You want to lock me in a cage for consuming a plant? Is that what freedom means to you? Not gonna happen. I am not a criminal.

Can you read, bro? I am pro-weed. And pro abortion. Yes fking legalize that shit. I’m invested in MSOS. On crime you all are weak tho. On violent crime tho, and on theft, you suck. On drugs, who cares. Legalize it all. That’s a non-violent offense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Food for thought......

Then why is crime rising in rural and red states?

Hm?

Never get an answer for that one just obfuscation and avoidance.

Sure, there are red states that show crime.

In what parts of those states is the crime located? Which cities? And what is the dominant political party in charge of the areas the crime is occurring. Look state by state and you’ll get a better picture. It’s blue cities.

Can see you don't live in rural or small town America. It's not an either or thing. White trash meth heads are a scourge in red America.

Tell you what. How about we put both small town AND urban degenerates in prison.

Win-win

Great. I am all for that. I am just not for your progressive weak ways on violent crime or theft.