S/O How do you justify having an affair?

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Anonymous wrote:ABC cared because their employees and America cared. I mean if you don’t care what others think just keep doing you without trying to justify lying and sneaking around. I mean if you don’t care, why are you hiding in the shadows? Is it because whoever you are banging doesn’t want anyone to see you? Are you that hideous? I mean, why not just tell the guy’s wife? It doesn’t matter right? Or are you afraid to do that because he will dump you and call you a psycho? I guess I don’t understand people that can’t find D that is available.

Its often about the lifestyle and money, as PP noted. My exH AP was his direct subordinate at work, dependent on him with her salary, consulting contracts and so on. It happens more often than you think: married men don't get laid for free

I can assure you they get laid for free.

Then why do so many men pay for sex? Paying to be able to leave, as the comedy joke says?

Yes. They want someone who won’t cause problems or have emotional entanglements. Many men see this as more ethical than an affair.

They're also less likely to get caught. A professional is much more likely to keep her mouth shut and not have any contact with your social or work circle.

Honestly I agree with this perspective. Much better a pro than a love affair.

Agree. But the men that don't want to pay (because it ain't cheap) and don't want spouse to find out--settle for a married woman thinking she has too much to lose to tell. But--that is where it gets messy. They are looking for exit affairs and think it means more, then he has to lie to keep it going--kick the can down the road. Then-they wish they had just paid in the first place as it gets way too complicated to easily get out of. The fear of her getting mad and telling the wife.

No, using a sex worker is insane. You have a MUCH, MUCH higher chance of passing along a serious disease this way.

Wow. When you are being used because someone did the calculation and came to the conclusion that you might be 'safer' than a sex worker, and of course it's free.

Why do you assume someone is always being "used" and "discarded" etc etc? It's a mutually beneficial exchange for those people. Doesn't make it right, but it's downright misogynist to always assume the female AP is being used like a piece of trash.

NP. It's because obviously this woman doesn't actually enjoy sex.

I guess I would ask how many men dump the AP and go non-contact if it encroaches on their 'real' life? I assume that is the norm. Take a ride on the bicycle for awhile and then it gets a flat or the novelty wears off so they put her out on the curb for free-cycle. Maybe another married guy can pick her up and get some more use out of her.

Exactly this. My DH started an affair with a married coworker. We were in a bad place in our marriage and this woman gave him validation and made him feel wanted. He figured that since she was also married and lived in another city, there would be no strings attached and no one would get hurt. As their relationship went on, she became paranoid and jealous and made his life miserable dealing with her insanity. Bottom line is he ended it, and then she tried to get him fired because she was so angry. So, why did you think that this AP entered into this affair in the first place? I know her marriage wasn't happy either, but did she really think they'd end up together in the end given they only even saw each other a half a dozen times? Did she think this was an exit affair? I'm just trying to understand this because he is an ok guy, but no great catch in the physical sense.

Similar experience over here. AP love bombed my DH who ate up her free ego kibbles. A while in, she turned looney from jealousy and made his life hell.

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Anonymous wrote:ABC cared because their employees and America cared. I mean if you don’t care what others think just keep doing you without trying to justify lying and sneaking around. I mean if you don’t care, why are you hiding in the shadows? Is it because whoever you are banging doesn’t want anyone to see you? Are you that hideous? I mean, why not just tell the guy’s wife? It doesn’t matter right? Or are you afraid to do that because he will dump you and call you a psycho? I guess I don’t understand people that can’t find D that is available.

Its often about the lifestyle and money, as PP noted. My exH AP was his direct subordinate at work, dependent on him with her salary, consulting contracts and so on. It happens more often than you think: married men don't get laid for free

I can assure you they get laid for free.

Then why do so many men pay for sex? Paying to be able to leave, as the comedy joke says?

Yes. They want someone who won’t cause problems or have emotional entanglements. Many men see this as more ethical than an affair.

They're also less likely to get caught. A professional is much more likely to keep her mouth shut and not have any contact with your social or work circle.

Honestly I agree with this perspective. Much better a pro than a love affair.

Agree. But the men that don't want to pay (because it ain't cheap) and don't want spouse to find out--settle for a married woman thinking she has too much to lose to tell. But--that is where it gets messy. They are looking for exit affairs and think it means more, then he has to lie to keep it going--kick the can down the road. Then-they wish they had just paid in the first place as it gets way too complicated to easily get out of. The fear of her getting mad and telling the wife.

No, using a sex worker is insane. You have a MUCH, MUCH higher chance of passing along a serious disease this way.

Wow. When you are being used because someone did the calculation and came to the conclusion that you might be 'safer' than a sex worker, and of course it's free.

Why do you assume someone is always being "used" and "discarded" etc etc? It's a mutually beneficial exchange for those people. Doesn't make it right, but it's downright misogynist to always assume the female AP is being used like a piece of trash.

NP. It's because obviously this woman doesn't actually enjoy sex.

I guess I would ask how many men dump the AP and go non-contact if it encroaches on their 'real' life? I assume that is the norm. Take a ride on the bicycle for awhile and then it gets a flat or the novelty wears off so they put her out on the curb for free-cycle. Maybe another married guy can pick her up and get some more use out of her.

Yeah that's what usually happens. OW forums even have tips on what to do when he goes no-contact. You know, because you definitely want tips on how to navigate manipulating a married person into resuming a secret relationship with you. Ah, the internet age!

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R/theotherwoman is a wild place if anyone wants free entertainment

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I understand affairs from both sides, but AP’s turning psycho, while I believe it happens, is just crazy to me. THATs next level.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand affairs from both sides, but AP’s turning psycho, while I believe it happens, is just crazy to me. THATs next level.

Not really, especially if the OW single. Mentally stable single women want nothing to do with married men. It's only the delusional ones that actually believe he's going to leave his family, marry them and provide them with a life of leisure that will go for married men.

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Anonymous wrote:AP’s aren’t getting tortured people they are having a great time. The excitement of a secret relationship goes both ways. I also don’t believe they are the reason why marriages don’t work out. They are the result of a bad marriage, not the cause.

As a single woman I wouldn’t be nearly excited being in a secret relationship. The question is why you as AP get the kink from it and I get my kink sleeping with single men. Obviously, the men are not tortured in either case sleeping with women !

Believe it or not, not everyone gets off on the secrecy and it is not always intrinsically appealing.

I agree yet you - that’s what I also cannot understand: how this secret occasional sex can even be thrilling ?

It depends on the specific relationship. If you love someone the sex is thrilling even if you hate the secrecy.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand affairs from both sides, but AP’s turning psycho, while I believe it happens, is just crazy to me. THATs next level.

Not really, especially if the OW single. Mentally stable single women want nothing to do with married men. It's only the delusional ones that actually believe he's going to leave his family, marry them and provide them with a life of leisure that will go for married men.

Hate to break it to you but just like not all people are the same not all APs are the same.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand affairs from both sides, but AP’s turning psycho, while I believe it happens, is just crazy to me. THATs next level.

Not really, especially if the OW single. Mentally stable single women want nothing to do with married men. It's only the delusional ones that actually believe he's going to leave his family, marry them and provide them with a life of leisure that will go for married men.

+1 I'm one of the PPs and OW was single

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Anonymous wrote:ABC cared because their employees and America cared. I mean if you don’t care what others think just keep doing you without trying to justify lying and sneaking around. I mean if you don’t care, why are you hiding in the shadows? Is it because whoever you are banging doesn’t want anyone to see you? Are you that hideous? I mean, why not just tell the guy’s wife? It doesn’t matter right? Or are you afraid to do that because he will dump you and call you a psycho? I guess I don’t understand people that can’t find D that is available.

Its often about the lifestyle and money, as PP noted. My exH AP was his direct subordinate at work, dependent on him with her salary, consulting contracts and so on. It happens more often than you think: married men don't get laid for free

I can assure you they get laid for free.

Then why do so many men pay for sex? Paying to be able to leave, as the comedy joke says?

Yes. They want someone who won’t cause problems or have emotional entanglements. Many men see this as more ethical than an affair.

They're also less likely to get caught. A professional is much more likely to keep her mouth shut and not have any contact with your social or work circle.

Honestly I agree with this perspective. Much better a pro than a love affair.

Agree. But the men that don't want to pay (because it ain't cheap) and don't want spouse to find out--settle for a married woman thinking she has too much to lose to tell. But--that is where it gets messy. They are looking for exit affairs and think it means more, then he has to lie to keep it going--kick the can down the road. Then-they wish they had just paid in the first place as it gets way too complicated to easily get out of. The fear of her getting mad and telling the wife.

No, using a sex worker is insane. You have a MUCH, MUCH higher chance of passing along a serious disease this way.

Wow. When you are being used because someone did the calculation and came to the conclusion that you might be 'safer' than a sex worker, and of course it's free.

Why do you assume someone is always being "used" and "discarded" etc etc? It's a mutually beneficial exchange for those people. Doesn't make it right, but it's downright misogynist to always assume the female AP is being used like a piece of trash.

NP. It's because obviously this woman doesn't actually enjoy sex.

How do you know this?

Because she thinks these women are being "used" for sex because they aren't getting anything in return. Um, hello, they're getting sex!

Aren’t there so many available, single men for sex? Why would a woman enjoy having sex with someone who can’t even go out with her in public ?

Sometimes, if the woman is also married, neither one wants to go out in public.

That I can understand and would think that married people more often cheat with other married people or on business with strangers.

Sure, but 99.9% of the time she thinks he will be the ticket out of her marriage (or very hopeful she can turn him that way) and 99.9% of the time he has zero desire to even think of leaving his family. And when she starts hanging on a long time she wants him to take risks so they will get caught--like meet her in a public place, push for more time, start doing the hang up calls, because if it blows up she figures he will be free and she has a soft landing spot with a new guy supporting her. This is why this 'mutually assured destruction' crap is so ridiculous. They end up destroying two families, he doesn't want her anyway and there are always strings on her side. Always. And then she finds out all the things about 'staying for the kids', not having sex at home (far from it) were all just lies. It was an escape until even it gets boring and too complicated. Then he starts not being able to overlook her mustache or her gut or her passive aggressive personality and she starts seeing he can really be a critical d*ck and has a hard time holding in his contempt for her.

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Anonymous wrote:ABC cared because their employees and America cared. I mean if you don’t care what others think just keep doing you without trying to justify lying and sneaking around. I mean if you don’t care, why are you hiding in the shadows? Is it because whoever you are banging doesn’t want anyone to see you? Are you that hideous? I mean, why not just tell the guy’s wife? It doesn’t matter right? Or are you afraid to do that because he will dump you and call you a psycho? I guess I don’t understand people that can’t find D that is available.

Its often about the lifestyle and money, as PP noted. My exH AP was his direct subordinate at work, dependent on him with her salary, consulting contracts and so on. It happens more often than you think: married men don't get laid for free

I can assure you they get laid for free.

Then why do so many men pay for sex? Paying to be able to leave, as the comedy joke says?

Yes. They want someone who won’t cause problems or have emotional entanglements. Many men see this as more ethical than an affair.

They're also less likely to get caught. A professional is much more likely to keep her mouth shut and not have any contact with your social or work circle.

Honestly I agree with this perspective. Much better a pro than a love affair.

Agree. But the men that don't want to pay (because it ain't cheap) and don't want spouse to find out--settle for a married woman thinking she has too much to lose to tell. But--that is where it gets messy. They are looking for exit affairs and think it means more, then he has to lie to keep it going--kick the can down the road. Then-they wish they had just paid in the first place as it gets way too complicated to easily get out of. The fear of her getting mad and telling the wife.

No, using a sex worker is insane. You have a MUCH, MUCH higher chance of passing along a serious disease this way.

Wow. When you are being used because someone did the calculation and came to the conclusion that you might be 'safer' than a sex worker, and of course it's free.

Why do you assume someone is always being "used" and "discarded" etc etc? It's a mutually beneficial exchange for those people. Doesn't make it right, but it's downright misogynist to always assume the female AP is being used like a piece of trash.

NP. It's because obviously this woman doesn't actually enjoy sex.

How do you know this?

Because she thinks these women are being "used" for sex because they aren't getting anything in return. Um, hello, they're getting sex!

Aren’t there so many available, single men for sex? Why would a woman enjoy having sex with someone who can’t even go out with her in public ?

Sometimes, if the woman is also married, neither one wants to go out in public.

That I can understand and would think that married people more often cheat with other married people or on business with strangers.

Sure, but 99.9% of the time she thinks he will be the ticket out of her marriage (or very hopeful she can turn him that way) and 99.9% of the time he has zero desire to even think of leaving his family. And when she starts hanging on a long time she wants him to take risks so they will get caught--like meet her in a public place, push for more time, start doing the hang up calls, because if it blows up she figures he will be free and she has a soft landing spot with a new guy supporting her. This is why this 'mutually assured destruction' crap is so ridiculous. They end up destroying two families, he doesn't want her anyway and there are always strings on her side. Always. And then she finds out all the things about 'staying for the kids', not having sex at home (far from it) were all just lies. It was an escape until even it gets boring and too complicated. Then he starts not being able to overlook her mustache or her gut or her passive aggressive personality and she starts seeing he can really be a critical d*ck and has a hard time holding in his contempt for her.

^ this is what I gather from reading medium and reddit and some of those ow/married sites when bored. It's nutso. Crazy town.

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Anonymous wrote:ABC cared because their employees and America cared. I mean if you don’t care what others think just keep doing you without trying to justify lying and sneaking around. I mean if you don’t care, why are you hiding in the shadows? Is it because whoever you are banging doesn’t want anyone to see you? Are you that hideous? I mean, why not just tell the guy’s wife? It doesn’t matter right? Or are you afraid to do that because he will dump you and call you a psycho? I guess I don’t understand people that can’t find D that is available.

Its often about the lifestyle and money, as PP noted. My exH AP was his direct subordinate at work, dependent on him with her salary, consulting contracts and so on. It happens more often than you think: married men don't get laid for free

I can assure you they get laid for free.

Then why do so many men pay for sex? Paying to be able to leave, as the comedy joke says?

Yes. They want someone who won’t cause problems or have emotional entanglements. Many men see this as more ethical than an affair.

They're also less likely to get caught. A professional is much more likely to keep her mouth shut and not have any contact with your social or work circle.

Honestly I agree with this perspective. Much better a pro than a love affair.

Agree. But the men that don't want to pay (because it ain't cheap) and don't want spouse to find out--settle for a married woman thinking she has too much to lose to tell. But--that is where it gets messy. They are looking for exit affairs and think it means more, then he has to lie to keep it going--kick the can down the road. Then-they wish they had just paid in the first place as it gets way too complicated to easily get out of. The fear of her getting mad and telling the wife.

No, using a sex worker is insane. You have a MUCH, MUCH higher chance of passing along a serious disease this way.

Wow. When you are being used because someone did the calculation and came to the conclusion that you might be 'safer' than a sex worker, and of course it's free.

Why do you assume someone is always being "used" and "discarded" etc etc? It's a mutually beneficial exchange for those people. Doesn't make it right, but it's downright misogynist to always assume the female AP is being used like a piece of trash.

NP. It's because obviously this woman doesn't actually enjoy sex.

How do you know this?

Because she thinks these women are being "used" for sex because they aren't getting anything in return. Um, hello, they're getting sex!

Aren’t there so many available, single men for sex? Why would a woman enjoy having sex with someone who can’t even go out with her in public ?

Sometimes, if the woman is also married, neither one wants to go out in public.

That I can understand and would think that married people more often cheat with other married people or on business with strangers.

Sure, but 99.9% of the time she thinks he will be the ticket out of her marriage (or very hopeful she can turn him that way) and 99.9% of the time he has zero desire to even think of leaving his family. And when she starts hanging on a long time she wants him to take risks so they will get caught--like meet her in a public place, push for more time, start doing the hang up calls, because if it blows up she figures he will be free and she has a soft landing spot with a new guy supporting her. This is why this 'mutually assured destruction' crap is so ridiculous. They end up destroying two families, he doesn't want her anyway and there are always strings on her side. Always. And then she finds out all the things about 'staying for the kids', not having sex at home (far from it) were all just lies. It was an escape until even it gets boring and too complicated. Then he starts not being able to overlook her mustache or her gut or her passive aggressive personality and she starts seeing he can really be a critical d*ck and has a hard time holding in his contempt for her.

Yep- this is spot on

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Anonymous wrote:ABC cared because their employees and America cared. I mean if you don’t care what others think just keep doing you without trying to justify lying and sneaking around. I mean if you don’t care, why are you hiding in the shadows? Is it because whoever you are banging doesn’t want anyone to see you? Are you that hideous? I mean, why not just tell the guy’s wife? It doesn’t matter right? Or are you afraid to do that because he will dump you and call you a psycho? I guess I don’t understand people that can’t find D that is available.

Its often about the lifestyle and money, as PP noted. My exH AP was his direct subordinate at work, dependent on him with her salary, consulting contracts and so on. It happens more often than you think: married men don't get laid for free

I can assure you they get laid for free.

Then why do so many men pay for sex? Paying to be able to leave, as the comedy joke says?

Yes. They want someone who won’t cause problems or have emotional entanglements. Many men see this as more ethical than an affair.

They're also less likely to get caught. A professional is much more likely to keep her mouth shut and not have any contact with your social or work circle.

Honestly I agree with this perspective. Much better a pro than a love affair.

Agree. But the men that don't want to pay (because it ain't cheap) and don't want spouse to find out--settle for a married woman thinking she has too much to lose to tell. But--that is where it gets messy. They are looking for exit affairs and think it means more, then he has to lie to keep it going--kick the can down the road. Then-they wish they had just paid in the first place as it gets way too complicated to easily get out of. The fear of her getting mad and telling the wife.

No, using a sex worker is insane. You have a MUCH, MUCH higher chance of passing along a serious disease this way.

Wow. When you are being used because someone did the calculation and came to the conclusion that you might be 'safer' than a sex worker, and of course it's free.

Why do you assume someone is always being "used" and "discarded" etc etc? It's a mutually beneficial exchange for those people. Doesn't make it right, but it's downright misogynist to always assume the female AP is being used like a piece of trash.

NP. It's because obviously this woman doesn't actually enjoy sex.

I guess I would ask how many men dump the AP and go non-contact if it encroaches on their 'real' life? I assume that is the norm. Take a ride on the bicycle for awhile and then it gets a flat or the novelty wears off so they put her out on the curb for free-cycle. Maybe another married guy can pick her up and get some more use out of her.

Yeah that's what usually happens. OW forums even have tips on what to do when he goes no-contact. You know, because you definitely want tips on how to navigate manipulating a married person into resuming a secret relationship with you. Ah, the internet age!

YES!! And all the ways to try to entice him and what does it mean that I haven't heard from him in two weeks. He just got a new puppy at home--does that mean he doesn't want me? There is such push and pull and SOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH DRAMA. And that's what these women need: DRAMA. I can assure that the men are not analyzing or care about any of that. They certainly aren't pining and wasting weekends and nights wondering what she is up too. lmaof

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Anonymous wrote:ABC cared because their employees and America cared. I mean if you don’t care what others think just keep doing you without trying to justify lying and sneaking around. I mean if you don’t care, why are you hiding in the shadows? Is it because whoever you are banging doesn’t want anyone to see you? Are you that hideous? I mean, why not just tell the guy’s wife? It doesn’t matter right? Or are you afraid to do that because he will dump you and call you a psycho? I guess I don’t understand people that can’t find D that is available.

Its often about the lifestyle and money, as PP noted. My exH AP was his direct subordinate at work, dependent on him with her salary, consulting contracts and so on. It happens more often than you think: married men don't get laid for free

I can assure you they get laid for free.

Then why do so many men pay for sex? Paying to be able to leave, as the comedy joke says?

Yes. They want someone who won’t cause problems or have emotional entanglements. Many men see this as more ethical than an affair.

They're also less likely to get caught. A professional is much more likely to keep her mouth shut and not have any contact with your social or work circle.

Honestly I agree with this perspective. Much better a pro than a love affair.

Agree. But the men that don't want to pay (because it ain't cheap) and don't want spouse to find out--settle for a married woman thinking she has too much to lose to tell. But--that is where it gets messy. They are looking for exit affairs and think it means more, then he has to lie to keep it going--kick the can down the road. Then-they wish they had just paid in the first place as it gets way too complicated to easily get out of. The fear of her getting mad and telling the wife.

No, using a sex worker is insane. You have a MUCH, MUCH higher chance of passing along a serious disease this way.

Wow. When you are being used because someone did the calculation and came to the conclusion that you might be 'safer' than a sex worker, and of course it's free.

Why do you assume someone is always being "used" and "discarded" etc etc? It's a mutually beneficial exchange for those people. Doesn't make it right, but it's downright misogynist to always assume the female AP is being used like a piece of trash.

NP. It's because obviously this woman doesn't actually enjoy sex.

How do you know this?

Because she thinks these women are being "used" for sex because they aren't getting anything in return. Um, hello, they're getting sex!

Aren’t there so many available, single men for sex? Why would a woman enjoy having sex with someone who can’t even go out with her in public ?

Sometimes, if the woman is also married, neither one wants to go out in public.

That I can understand and would think that married people more often cheat with other married people or on business with strangers.

Sure, but 99.9% of the time she thinks he will be the ticket out of her marriage (or very hopeful she can turn him that way) and 99.9% of the time he has zero desire to even think of leaving his family. And when she starts hanging on a long time she wants him to take risks so they will get caught--like meet her in a public place, push for more time, start doing the hang up calls, because if it blows up she figures he will be free and she has a soft landing spot with a new guy supporting her. This is why this 'mutually assured destruction' crap is so ridiculous. They end up destroying two families, he doesn't want her anyway and there are always strings on her side. Always. And then she finds out all the things about 'staying for the kids', not having sex at home (far from it) were all just lies. It was an escape until even it gets boring and too complicated. Then he starts not being able to overlook her mustache or her gut or her passive aggressive personality and she starts seeing he can really be a critical d*ck and has a hard time holding in his contempt for her.

Yep- this is spot on

Yes. Not so romantic IRL.

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For real. I’m an AP but he is definitely definitely going on with his life and not skipping a beat with weekend plans. I only see him if he has nothing going on and we haven’t had sex in a few weeks.

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The best thing you can do as an AP is go on with your life too and turn HIM into YOUR side piece. That way if he leaves you it’s not like you wasted time.