Sorority recruitment

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

And once again, just because your sorority at your school doesn't do it does NOT mean it doesn't happen elsewhere. You only have accurate information about rush at your sorority at your school.
There are hundreds of schools that Rush.
Plenty of people are stating that NOT EVERYONE gets bids at their school. So it obviously happens at many schools.

No, it isn’t obvious. Identify the school where you claim not everyone gets bids so we can get to the bottom of this.

Not the person you’re responding to but I understand this is true at UT Knoxville.

It's true across the SEC, and probably worse at Ole Miss, UGA, Auburn, etc.

No, it's not true across the SEC.

My DD attends an SEC school and is in a sorority. Every girl who wants a bid gets a bid. Unless they do something like a previous person mentioned like being rude about the houses they don't want, or choosing not to rank their final choices because they only want a particular house. As to why a girl would do that? Maybe she only wants a "top" house. Maybe she wants to be a legacy. Maybe she only wants her time and her money going to a particular philanthropy.

My DD is not in a top house. We're not a Greek system family, we had no idea there was such a thing. She went in with an open mind and found the perfect spot for her. But she's said during rush there are definitely some girls who aren't interested in her sorority. Maybe kids are better off indicating they're not interested so no one wastes their time. And there are definitely girls every year who drop rush if their preferred houses drop them. I assume they'll later try through the open bid process, or rush again the following year, or decide not to join a sorority after all. Even at a very Greek school like an SEC school, there are plenty of opportunities for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:From what I understand, the process is less brutal at SLACs. But you may want to ask around. At my school, it was absolutely brutal. There were houses with horrible nicknames that no one wanted to be in.

My daughter attends a SLAC. She decided to rush and was only asked back to the "loser" sorority for the preference round. Her friends went to other sororities or, in a few cases, also only had the "loser" sorority as an option, so they decided not to pledge at all. They all seemed a little PTSD about the whole experience. Putting 20/21 year olds in charge of 18 year olds: what could go wrong?

I knew I should not have opened this thread.

Your use of the word loser speaks volumes about you and the values you've instilled in your daughter.

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Anonymous wrote:From what I understand, the process is less brutal at SLACs. But you may want to ask around. At my school, it was absolutely brutal. There were houses with horrible nicknames that no one wanted to be in.

My daughter attends a SLAC. She decided to rush and was only asked back to the "loser" sorority for the preference round. Her friends went to other sororities or, in a few cases, also only had the "loser" sorority as an option, so they decided not to pledge at all. They all seemed a little PTSD about the whole experience. Putting 20/21 year olds in charge of 18 year olds: what could go wrong?

I knew I should not have opened this thread.

Your use of the word loser speaks volumes about you and the values you've instilled in your daughter.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

And once again, just because your sorority at your school doesn't do it does NOT mean it doesn't happen elsewhere. You only have accurate information about rush at your sorority at your school.
There are hundreds of schools that Rush.
Plenty of people are stating that NOT EVERYONE gets bids at their school. So it obviously happens at many schools.

No, it isn’t obvious. Identify the school where you claim not everyone gets bids so we can get to the bottom of this.

Identify yourself so we can understand why you, internet stranger, are capable of getting to the bottom of this.

Umm, I know how to use google and look up rush at a particular university. Which we all could do, but it seems to be more fun to make up horror stories for some here.

I am a PP that shared my daughter’s experience and resulting feelings of inadequacy and anxiety. It is definitely not made up. I am still living it on the phone with her often 3 weeks out.

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Anonymous wrote:toxic and vapid. have her find one real friend who she takes classes with. she'll be better off...

If you say so. My DD just called me and told me she has class with 2 of her sorority sisters who she didn't know well at all. This is a sorority of 200+ so no she doesn't know everyone. They both hunted her down before the class and asked her to sit with them. This is in class of 300+. My DD is still new to the sorority and loved that these older girls went out of their way to find her and sit with her, since she isn't exactly friends with them (yet). That's what being in a sorority gives you. A large community that can make your school smaller and more intimate per se. If she had "one real friend" from a class, she'd be very alone, trust me. My DS had one very best friend freshman year, his roommate. His social world was way too small and depended on that one person. They both joined a fraternity together and now he has a bunch of friends that he would never have known if he hadn't joined. It's actually very beneficial for a more introverted person to join a greek house, because it does bring people to them, rather than them always trying to find and befriend others. Some people are just more shy and need to have a smaller community to try to make friends within, rather than a 10-20K person university. Shout all you want about "paying for friends" but it works exactly the same if you join a club, an athletic team, whatever.

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Anonymous wrote:I see we’ve entered the crazy sock puppeting stage of this thread. Happens every time . .

Actually can't believe we have 16 pages of inane babbling and temper tantrums of how mean a voluntary process that 750,00 college students participate in.

Your replies, tone, and callousness validate every negative stereotype about sorority mean girl behavior.

No it doesn't, it highlights the ignorance of a few people on this board that think the Greek system is evil and that everyone that joins are shallow misguided morons that are constantly on the verge of death. For all of the "morally superior" parents out there making rude comments just remember that it's someone else's child and another human being your are disparaging. Not exactly your best moment.

There were just a couple of those. Mostly we have a few parents upset about how cruel it was, a mom who says it’s wonderful, and a few people that say it can be good or bad - it depends. You’re being super dramatic and defensive.

I think you’re wrong, there are like two people whose kids were shut out or they didn’t get into the house they wanted and several others whose DDs have had a fine time of it (certainly not just “a mom”). Historically on this board, there are 2-3 people who virulently disparage the Greek system over and over. It’s pretty recognizable across several threads but makes it look like everyone is against it. That’s not true at all. But again the OP is Long gone so let’s just agree that people have had varying experiences and if the OPs Dd wants to try it, she should.

How do you know this? Are you Jeff?

I am a 100% NP on this thread and here to say my observation is that the system is for the most part mean, shallow, unhealthy and anxiety-producing for college freshman.

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Anonymous wrote:toxic and vapid. have her find one real friend who she takes classes with. she'll be better off...

If you say so. My DD just called me and told me she has class with 2 of her sorority sisters who she didn't know well at all. This is a sorority of 200+ so no she doesn't know everyone. They both hunted her down before the class and asked her to sit with them. This is in class of 300+. My DD is still new to the sorority and loved that these older girls went out of their way to find her and sit with her, since she isn't exactly friends with them (yet). That's what being in a sorority gives you. A large community that can make your school smaller and more intimate per se. If she had "one real friend" from a class, she'd be very alone, trust me. My DS had one very best friend freshman year, his roommate. His social world was way too small and depended on that one person. They both joined a fraternity together and now he has a bunch of friends that he would never have known if he hadn't joined. It's actually very beneficial for a more introverted person to join a greek house, because it does bring people to them, rather than them always trying to find and befriend others. Some people are just more shy and need to have a smaller community to try to make friends within, rather than a 10-20K person university. Shout all you want about "paying for friends" but it works exactly the same if you join a club, an athletic team, whatever.

So greek life is for the shy and those unable to form friend groups and an individual identity on their own?

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

And once again, just because your sorority at your school doesn't do it does NOT mean it doesn't happen elsewhere. You only have accurate information about rush at your sorority at your school.
There are hundreds of schools that Rush.
Plenty of people are stating that NOT EVERYONE gets bids at their school. So it obviously happens at many schools.

No, it isn’t obvious. Identify the school where you claim not everyone gets bids so we can get to the bottom of this.

Identify yourself so we can understand why you, internet stranger, are capable of getting to the bottom of this.

Umm, I know how to use google and look up rush at a particular university. Which we all could do, but it seems to be more fun to make up horror stories for some here.

I am a PP that shared my daughter’s experience and resulting feelings of inadequacy and anxiety. It is definitely not made up. I am still living it on the phone with her often 3 weeks out.

And that sucks, for sure, but she needs to be resilient and get out there and find something else to focus on. She's going to be turned down by jobs, grad programs, boyfriends, friends... she is going to need to build her own self confidence so that she can say, "well it's their loss". My DD was in a similar position and told me that if she didn't join a sorority, she had already targeted some clubs (athletic as well as academic interest) that she was going to spend her time focusing on. I know everyone has different issues and even mental health disorders which make that harder (my DD has an eating disorder so I get 100%), but they have to learn to pick up and soldier on. More than likely the campus is doing informal recruitment, has she looked into that? If her friends ended up going into sororities she can ask them about informal "COB" recruitment. Again I am sorry she is so upset and struggling.

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Anonymous wrote:toxic and vapid. have her find one real friend who she takes classes with. she'll be better off...

If you say so. My DD just called me and told me she has class with 2 of her sorority sisters who she didn't know well at all. This is a sorority of 200+ so no she doesn't know everyone. They both hunted her down before the class and asked her to sit with them. This is in class of 300+. My DD is still new to the sorority and loved that these older girls went out of their way to find her and sit with her, since she isn't exactly friends with them (yet). That's what being in a sorority gives you. A large community that can make your school smaller and more intimate per se. If she had "one real friend" from a class, she'd be very alone, trust me. My DS had one very best friend freshman year, his roommate. His social world was way too small and depended on that one person. They both joined a fraternity together and now he has a bunch of friends that he would never have known if he hadn't joined. It's actually very beneficial for a more introverted person to join a greek house, because it does bring people to them, rather than them always trying to find and befriend others. Some people are just more shy and need to have a smaller community to try to make friends within, rather than a 10-20K person university. Shout all you want about "paying for friends" but it works exactly the same if you join a club, an athletic team, whatever.

So greek life is for the shy and those unable to form friend groups and an individual identity on their own?

oh good lord. Yes you're right go ahead and generalize. Why do you care so much that when opinions are asked for, you need to continually disparage? The OP said her DD was more introverted, so that is why I highlighted why she might like it, being more introverted. Trust me both my kids have their own identities and are not one bit defined by their greek house, but it is nice to have a community to be part of that offers social interactions, philanthropic involvement and leadership opportunities. But Im sorry I derailed your rant and tried to actually address the question which was initially brought up, though I know she's long gone.

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oh and to follow up, what do you have against introverts? More than half of the population are and yeah, sometimes they need a push to get out and make friends. Sorry you feel so superior to them.

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Anonymous wrote:toxic and vapid. have her find one real friend who she takes classes with. she'll be better off...

If you say so. My DD just called me and told me she has class with 2 of her sorority sisters who she didn't know well at all. This is a sorority of 200+ so no she doesn't know everyone. They both hunted her down before the class and asked her to sit with them. This is in class of 300+. My DD is still new to the sorority and loved that these older girls went out of their way to find her and sit with her, since she isn't exactly friends with them (yet). That's what being in a sorority gives you. A large community that can make your school smaller and more intimate per se. If she had "one real friend" from a class, she'd be very alone, trust me. My DS had one very best friend freshman year, his roommate. His social world was way too small and depended on that one person. They both joined a fraternity together and now he has a bunch of friends that he would never have known if he hadn't joined. It's actually very beneficial for a more introverted person to join a greek house, because it does bring people to them, rather than them always trying to find and befriend others. Some people are just more shy and need to have a smaller community to try to make friends within, rather than a 10-20K person university. Shout all you want about "paying for friends" but it works exactly the same if you join a club, an athletic team, whatever.

Well said.

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Anonymous wrote:I see we’ve entered the crazy sock puppeting stage of this thread. Happens every time . .

Actually can't believe we have 16 pages of inane babbling and temper tantrums of how mean a voluntary process that 750,00 college students participate in.

Your replies, tone, and callousness validate every negative stereotype about sorority mean girl behavior.

No it doesn't, it highlights the ignorance of a few people on this board that think the Greek system is evil and that everyone that joins are shallow misguided morons that are constantly on the verge of death. For all of the "morally superior" parents out there making rude comments just remember that it's someone else's child and another human being your are disparaging. Not exactly your best moment.

There were just a couple of those. Mostly we have a few parents upset about how cruel it was, a mom who says it’s wonderful, and a few people that say it can be good or bad - it depends. You’re being super dramatic and defensive.

I think you’re wrong, there are like two people whose kids were shut out or they didn’t get into the house they wanted and several others whose DDs have had a fine time of it (certainly not just “a mom”). Historically on this board, there are 2-3 people who virulently disparage the Greek system over and over. It’s pretty recognizable across several threads but makes it look like everyone is against it. That’s not true at all. But again the OP is Long gone so let’s just agree that people have had varying experiences and if the OPs Dd wants to try it, she should.

How do you know this? Are you Jeff?

I am a 100% NP on this thread and here to say my observation is that the system is for the most part mean, shallow, unhealthy and anxiety-producing for college freshman.

And you are wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

And once again, just because your sorority at your school doesn't do it does NOT mean it doesn't happen elsewhere. You only have accurate information about rush at your sorority at your school.
There are hundreds of schools that Rush.
Plenty of people are stating that NOT EVERYONE gets bids at their school. So it obviously happens at many schools.

No, it isn’t obvious. Identify the school where you claim not everyone gets bids so we can get to the bottom of this.

Not the person you’re responding to but I understand this is true at UT Knoxville.

It's true across the SEC, and probably worse at Ole Miss, UGA, Auburn, etc.

No, it's not true across the SEC.

My DD attends an SEC school and is in a sorority. Every girl who wants a bid gets a bid. Unless they do something like a previous person mentioned like being rude about the houses they don't want, or choosing not to rank their final choices because they only want a particular house. As to why a girl would do that? Maybe she only wants a "top" house. Maybe she wants to be a legacy. Maybe she only wants her time and her money going to a particular philanthropy.

My DD is not in a top house. We're not a Greek system family, we had no idea there was such a thing. She went in with an open mind and found the perfect spot for her. But she's said during rush there are definitely some girls who aren't interested in her sorority. Maybe kids are better off indicating they're not interested so no one wastes their time. And there are definitely girls every year who drop rush if their preferred houses drop them. I assume they'll later try through the open bid process, or rush again the following year, or decide not to join a sorority after all. Even at a very Greek school like an SEC school, there are plenty of opportunities for everyone.

Disagree that there are plenty of opportunities but otherwise, this is pretty typical. But girls who grew up in the south are under pressure that your DD wasn’t under. “I knew nothing and was happy with my one option” is different than “I grew up around moms and girls who prepped for this for years and told me I want this house, I don’t want that house and now I’m down to one I didn’t even like”

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

And once again, just because your sorority at your school doesn't do it does NOT mean it doesn't happen elsewhere. You only have accurate information about rush at your sorority at your school.
There are hundreds of schools that Rush.
Plenty of people are stating that NOT EVERYONE gets bids at their school. So it obviously happens at many schools.

No, it isn’t obvious. Identify the school where you claim not everyone gets bids so we can get to the bottom of this.

Identify yourself so we can understand why you, internet stranger, are capable of getting to the bottom of this.

Umm, I know how to use google and look up rush at a particular university. Which we all could do, but it seems to be more fun to make up horror stories for some here.

I am a PP that shared my daughter’s experience and resulting feelings of inadequacy and anxiety. It is definitely not made up. I am still living it on the phone with her often 3 weeks out.

I’m so sorry. We went through it too and I know how upsetting and painful it is for them- and therefore us.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

And once again, just because your sorority at your school doesn't do it does NOT mean it doesn't happen elsewhere. You only have accurate information about rush at your sorority at your school.
There are hundreds of schools that Rush.
Plenty of people are stating that NOT EVERYONE gets bids at their school. So it obviously happens at many schools.

No, it isn’t obvious. Identify the school where you claim not everyone gets bids so we can get to the bottom of this.

Identify yourself so we can understand why you, internet stranger, are capable of getting to the bottom of this.

Umm, I know how to use google and look up rush at a particular university. Which we all could do, but it seems to be more fun to make up horror stories for some here.

I am a PP that shared my daughter’s experience and resulting feelings of inadequacy and anxiety. It is definitely not made up. I am still living it on the phone with her often 3 weeks out.

I’m so sorry. We went through it too and I know how upsetting and painful it is for them- and therefore us.

Glass half full is now is an amazing opportunity to do some outstanding parenting on the ills of the world and get them on the right track!