Sorority recruitment

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

And once again, just because your sorority at your school doesn't do it does NOT mean it doesn't happen elsewhere. You only have accurate information about rush at your sorority at your school.
There are hundreds of schools that Rush.
Plenty of people are stating that NOT EVERYONE gets bids at their school. So it obviously happens at many schools.

No, it isn’t obvious. Identify the school where you claim not everyone gets bids so we can get to the bottom of this.

Identify yourself so we can understand why you, internet stranger, are capable of getting to the bottom of this.

Umm, I know how to use google and look up rush at a particular university. Which we all could do, but it seems to be more fun to make up horror stories for some here.

I am a PP that shared my daughter’s experience and resulting feelings of inadequacy and anxiety. It is definitely not made up. I am still living it on the phone with her often 3 weeks out.

I’m so sorry. We went through it too and I know how upsetting and painful it is for them- and therefore us.

Glass half full is now is an amazing opportunity to do some outstanding parenting on the ills of the world and get them on the right track!

As if they didn’t just go through those things in high school and were looking forward to a fresh, new experience. That’s why having this the week they show is especially cruel.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

And once again, just because your sorority at your school doesn't do it does NOT mean it doesn't happen elsewhere. You only have accurate information about rush at your sorority at your school.
There are hundreds of schools that Rush.
Plenty of people are stating that NOT EVERYONE gets bids at their school. So it obviously happens at many schools.

No, it isn’t obvious. Identify the school where you claim not everyone gets bids so we can get to the bottom of this.

Identify yourself so we can understand why you, internet stranger, are capable of getting to the bottom of this.

Umm, I know how to use google and look up rush at a particular university. Which we all could do, but it seems to be more fun to make up horror stories for some here.

I am a PP that shared my daughter’s experience and resulting feelings of inadequacy and anxiety. It is definitely not made up. I am still living it on the phone with her often 3 weeks out.

I’m so sorry. We went through it too and I know how upsetting and painful it is for them- and therefore us.

Glass half full is now is an amazing opportunity to do some outstanding parenting on the ills of the world and get them on the right track!

As if they didn’t just go through those things in high school and were looking forward to a fresh, new experience. That’s why having this the week they show is especially cruel.

It will happen the rest of their life in various situations hence the parenting part. Resiliency is an actual thing and parenting is a verb, good luck!

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

And once again, just because your sorority at your school doesn't do it does NOT mean it doesn't happen elsewhere. You only have accurate information about rush at your sorority at your school.
There are hundreds of schools that Rush.
Plenty of people are stating that NOT EVERYONE gets bids at their school. So it obviously happens at many schools.

No, it isn’t obvious. Identify the school where you claim not everyone gets bids so we can get to the bottom of this.

Identify yourself so we can understand why you, internet stranger, are capable of getting to the bottom of this.

Umm, I know how to use google and look up rush at a particular university. Which we all could do, but it seems to be more fun to make up horror stories for some here.

I am a PP that shared my daughter’s experience and resulting feelings of inadequacy and anxiety. It is definitely not made up. I am still living it on the phone with her often 3 weeks out.

I’m so sorry. We went through it too and I know how upsetting and painful it is for them- and therefore us.

Glass half full is now is an amazing opportunity to do some outstanding parenting on the ills of the world and get them on the right track!

As if they didn’t just go through those things in high school and were looking forward to a fresh, new experience. That’s why having this the week they show is especially cruel.

It will happen the rest of their life in various situations hence the parenting part. Resiliency is an actual thing and parenting is a verb, good luck!

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

And once again, just because your sorority at your school doesn't do it does NOT mean it doesn't happen elsewhere. You only have accurate information about rush at your sorority at your school.
There are hundreds of schools that Rush.
Plenty of people are stating that NOT EVERYONE gets bids at their school. So it obviously happens at many schools.

No, it isn’t obvious. Identify the school where you claim not everyone gets bids so we can get to the bottom of this.

Identify yourself so we can understand why you, internet stranger, are capable of getting to the bottom of this.

Umm, I know how to use google and look up rush at a particular university. Which we all could do, but it seems to be more fun to make up horror stories for some here.

I am a PP that shared my daughter’s experience and resulting feelings of inadequacy and anxiety. It is definitely not made up. I am still living it on the phone with her often 3 weeks out.

I’m so sorry. We went through it too and I know how upsetting and painful it is for them- and therefore us.

Glass half full is now is an amazing opportunity to do some outstanding parenting on the ills of the world and get them on the right track!

As if they didn’t just go through those things in high school and were looking forward to a fresh, new experience. That’s why having this the week they show is especially cruel.

It will happen the rest of their life in various situations hence the parenting part. Resiliency is an actual thing and parenting is a verb, good luck!

Ah. You’re the “parenting is a verb” troll. I recognize you from other topics where you live to insult people who have empathy and feelings.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

And once again, just because your sorority at your school doesn't do it does NOT mean it doesn't happen elsewhere. You only have accurate information about rush at your sorority at your school.
There are hundreds of schools that Rush.
Plenty of people are stating that NOT EVERYONE gets bids at their school. So it obviously happens at many schools.

No, it isn’t obvious. Identify the school where you claim not everyone gets bids so we can get to the bottom of this.

Identify yourself so we can understand why you, internet stranger, are capable of getting to the bottom of this.

Umm, I know how to use google and look up rush at a particular university. Which we all could do, but it seems to be more fun to make up horror stories for some here.

I am a PP that shared my daughter’s experience and resulting feelings of inadequacy and anxiety. It is definitely not made up. I am still living it on the phone with her often 3 weeks out.

I’m so sorry. We went through it too and I know how upsetting and painful it is for them- and therefore us.

Glass half full is now is an amazing opportunity to do some outstanding parenting on the ills of the world and get them on the right track!

As if they didn’t just go through those things in high school and were looking forward to a fresh, new experience. That’s why having this the week they show is especially cruel.

It will happen the rest of their life in various situations hence the parenting part. Resiliency is an actual thing and parenting is a verb, good luck!

Ah. You’re the “parenting is a verb” troll. I recognize you from other topics where you live to insult people who have empathy and feelings.

Actually no, that's someone else. I'm not insulting you, nothing I said is an insult. Go back and read what I said. This is the way of the world and sometimes it's harsh, take the opportunity to find positive outcomes from this situation and move forward from 3 weeks of as you put it "feelings of inadequacy and anxiety" so she can excel at school with a positive attitude.

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see here's the thing, when a poster posts a question, asking for info, sure post your Dd's negative experience. Others will post their positive experiences, and then it should be done. Done. There is no need to tell anyone that their experience isn't valid but there is also no need to continue to trash something as evil just because of your one experience. Just understand that not everyone had the same experience for better or for worse. If i drove a car i had a bad experience with, such as a Jeep, and someone asked for opinions, I'd say, "had two and they both left me stranded on the road and I won't buy one again." And then I'd be done. I wouldn't continue to berate people who love their Jeeps. That's what the negative posters are doing on this board. Just let it go. Question asked and answered by multiple people and its done.

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Anonymous wrote:toxic and vapid. have her find one real friend who she takes classes with. she'll be better off...

If you say so. My DD just called me and told me she has class with 2 of her sorority sisters who she didn't know well at all. This is a sorority of 200+ so no she doesn't know everyone. They both hunted her down before the class and asked her to sit with them. This is in class of 300+. My DD is still new to the sorority and loved that these older girls went out of their way to find her and sit with her, since she isn't exactly friends with them (yet). That's what being in a sorority gives you. A large community that can make your school smaller and more intimate per se. If she had "one real friend" from a class, she'd be very alone, trust me. My DS had one very best friend freshman year, his roommate. His social world was way too small and depended on that one person. They both joined a fraternity together and now he has a bunch of friends that he would never have known if he hadn't joined. It's actually very beneficial for a more introverted person to join a greek house, because it does bring people to them, rather than them always trying to find and befriend others. Some people are just more shy and need to have a smaller community to try to make friends within, rather than a 10-20K person university. Shout all you want about "paying for friends" but it works exactly the same if you join a club, an athletic team, whatever.

The ironic part is that rush weeds those people out

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Anonymous wrote:see here's the thing, when a poster posts a question, asking for info, sure post your Dd's negative experience. Others will post their positive experiences, and then it should be done. Done. There is no need to tell anyone that their experience isn't valid but there is also no need to continue to trash something as evil just because of your one experience. Just understand that not everyone had the same experience for better or for worse. If i drove a car i had a bad experience with, such as a Jeep, and someone asked for opinions, I'd say, "had two and they both left me stranded on the road and I won't buy one again." And then I'd be done. I wouldn't continue to berate people who love their Jeeps. That's what the negative posters are doing on this board. Just let it go. Question asked and answered by multiple people and its done.

Bravo! See, you come from a place of logic and reason, others come from a place of emotion, bias and the feeling of moral superiority and can't help themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:toxic and vapid. have her find one real friend who she takes classes with. she'll be better off...

If you say so. My DD just called me and told me she has class with 2 of her sorority sisters who she didn't know well at all. This is a sorority of 200+ so no she doesn't know everyone. They both hunted her down before the class and asked her to sit with them. This is in class of 300+. My DD is still new to the sorority and loved that these older girls went out of their way to find her and sit with her, since she isn't exactly friends with them (yet). That's what being in a sorority gives you. A large community that can make your school smaller and more intimate per se. If she had "one real friend" from a class, she'd be very alone, trust me. My DS had one very best friend freshman year, his roommate. His social world was way too small and depended on that one person. They both joined a fraternity together and now he has a bunch of friends that he would never have known if he hadn't joined. It's actually very beneficial for a more introverted person to join a greek house, because it does bring people to them, rather than them always trying to find and befriend others. Some people are just more shy and need to have a smaller community to try to make friends within, rather than a 10-20K person university. Shout all you want about "paying for friends" but it works exactly the same if you join a club, an athletic team, whatever.

The ironic part is that rush weeds those people out

No they don't. Those people might be "weeded" out by the "top tier" popular girls but I 100% guarantee you there is a sorority that has more like minded kids who are less extroverted where that person can find a happy home. I posted that my DS is introverted, he is in a fraternity. My DD is not introverted but she is not really a small talk person, and she is in a sorority. So again, the PNM just needs to find the people that they fit with and if they keep their eyes open to different possibilities, they will.

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Okay I did a little googling.

Alabama is Exhibit 1. You can go through the process and not get a bid.

You’re not guaranteed a bid
The majority of the women participating in primary recruitment are invited to join a chapter at the end. APA says, for the last five years, more than 89 percent of the women participating in the Open House Round of Recruitment have received a bid.

But it is possible to go through recruitment and not pledge a sorority. Recruitment is a process of “mutual selection,” which means it can result in “many different outcomes.”

APA says approximately 4-8 percent of women participating in recruitment voluntarily withdraw themselves from the process during the week, choosing not to continue participating. “Each sorority at UA has their own membership criteria, oftentimes governed by their national organization, which they use to make there selections,” the website says. “As such, unfortunately, we also have women who are completely released from the recruitment process, although this number is relatively low, around 5 percent.”

DePauw University, where over 60 per cent of students are Greek is Exhibit 2.

College of Wooster is Exhibit 3. My source is The Wooster Voice, official school newspaper.

University of Georgia is Exhibit 4.

Dartmouth College--"rare but does happen"--is Exhibit 5.

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Anonymous wrote:Okay I did a little googling.

Alabama is Exhibit 1. You can go through the process and not get a bid.

You’re not guaranteed a bid
The majority of the women participating in primary recruitment are invited to join a chapter at the end. APA says, for the last five years, more than 89 percent of the women participating in the Open House Round of Recruitment have received a bid.

But it is possible to go through recruitment and not pledge a sorority. Recruitment is a process of “mutual selection,” which means it can result in “many different outcomes.”

APA says approximately 4-8 percent of women participating in recruitment voluntarily withdraw themselves from the process during the week, choosing not to continue participating. “Each sorority at UA has their own membership criteria, oftentimes governed by their national organization, which they use to make there selections,” the website says. “As such, unfortunately, we also have women who are completely released from the recruitment process, although this number is relatively low, around 5 percent.”

DePauw University, where over 60 per cent of students are Greek is Exhibit 2.

College of Wooster is Exhibit 3. My source is The Wooster Voice, official school newspaper.

University of Georgia is Exhibit 4.

Dartmouth College--"rare but does happen"--is Exhibit 5.

NP- Glad you took the time to Google all of that extremely useful information...the world is a better place because of your grand effort.

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and again it depends on the school. At UVA, if you go through the process and attend every event you're inited to, and rank two houses after the pref round, you WILL get a bid (unless you're awful and did something to get you kicked out of rush)

So can we all agree that not every school treats it the same way, but the vast majority of girls will get a bid.

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Anonymous wrote:Okay I did a little googling.

Alabama is Exhibit 1. You can go through the process and not get a bid.

You’re not guaranteed a bid
The majority of the women participating in primary recruitment are invited to join a chapter at the end. APA says, for the last five years, more than 89 percent of the women participating in the Open House Round of Recruitment have received a bid.

But it is possible to go through recruitment and not pledge a sorority. Recruitment is a process of “mutual selection,” which means it can result in “many different outcomes.”

APA says approximately 4-8 percent of women participating in recruitment voluntarily withdraw themselves from the process during the week, choosing not to continue participating. “Each sorority at UA has their own membership criteria, oftentimes governed by their national organization, which they use to make there selections,” the website says. “As such, unfortunately, we also have women who are completely released from the recruitment process, although this number is relatively low, around 5 percent.”

DePauw University, where over 60 per cent of students are Greek is Exhibit 2.

College of Wooster is Exhibit 3. My source is The Wooster Voice, official school newspaper.

University of Georgia is Exhibit 4.

Dartmouth College--"rare but does happen"--is Exhibit 5.

The above you've quoted about Alabama says you can start the process (that's the open house round) and not get a bid. Then it describes kids removing themselves from the process.
Obviously girls who decide to stop rushing won't get a bid.

If I send my resume to a job opportunity and then decide not to attend the interview, obviously I'm not going to get a job offer. That's not because the company was rejecting me - I rejected them.

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Anonymous wrote:see here's the thing, when a poster posts a question, asking for info, sure post your Dd's negative experience. Others will post their positive experiences, and then it should be done. Done. There is no need to tell anyone that their experience isn't valid but there is also no need to continue to trash something as evil just because of your one experience. Just understand that not everyone had the same experience for better or for worse. If i drove a car i had a bad experience with, such as a Jeep, and someone asked for opinions, I'd say, "had two and they both left me stranded on the road and I won't buy one again." And then I'd be done. I wouldn't continue to berate people who love their Jeeps. That's what the negative posters are doing on this board. Just let it go. Question asked and answered by multiple people and its done.

Bravo! See, you come from a place of logic and reason, others come from a place of emotion, bias and the feeling of moral superiority and can't help themselves.

This is rich coming from the troll that just joined to argue with people sharing those negative experiences.

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Anonymous wrote:toxic and vapid. have her find one real friend who she takes classes with. she'll be better off...

If you say so. My DD just called me and told me she has class with 2 of her sorority sisters who she didn't know well at all. This is a sorority of 200+ so no she doesn't know everyone. They both hunted her down before the class and asked her to sit with them. This is in class of 300+. My DD is still new to the sorority and loved that these older girls went out of their way to find her and sit with her, since she isn't exactly friends with them (yet). That's what being in a sorority gives you. A large community that can make your school smaller and more intimate per se. If she had "one real friend" from a class, she'd be very alone, trust me. My DS had one very best friend freshman year, his roommate. His social world was way too small and depended on that one person. They both joined a fraternity together and now he has a bunch of friends that he would never have known if he hadn't joined. It's actually very beneficial for a more introverted person to join a greek house, because it does bring people to them, rather than them always trying to find and befriend others. Some people are just more shy and need to have a smaller community to try to make friends within, rather than a 10-20K person university. Shout all you want about "paying for friends" but it works exactly the same if you join a club, an athletic team, whatever.

The ironic part is that rush weeds those people out

Yup---because someone who is that shy is likely not a star at 5 minute small talk then move to the next girl type of thing, all while knowing she is being judged on these 5 min sessions. That's not how most shy people work