Sorority recruitment

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

And once again, just because your sorority at your school doesn't do it does NOT mean it doesn't happen elsewhere. You only have accurate information about rush at your sorority at your school.
There are hundreds of schools that Rush.
Plenty of people are stating that NOT EVERYONE gets bids at their school. So it obviously happens at many schools.

No, it isn’t obvious. Identify the school where you claim not everyone gets bids so we can get to the bottom of this.

Identify yourself so we can understand why you, internet stranger, are capable of getting to the bottom of this.

Umm, I know how to use google and look up rush at a particular university. Which we all could do, but it seems to be more fun to make up horror stories for some here.

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Anonymous wrote:I see we’ve entered the crazy sock puppeting stage of this thread. Happens every time . .

Actually can't believe we have 16 pages of inane babbling and temper tantrums of how mean a voluntary process that 750,00 college students participate in.

Your replies, tone, and callousness validate every negative stereotype about sorority mean girl behavior.

No it doesn't, it highlights the ignorance of a few people on this board that think the Greek system is evil and that everyone that joins are shallow misguided morons that are constantly on the verge of death. For all of the "morally superior" parents out there making rude comments just remember that it's someone else's child and another human being your are disparaging. Not exactly your best moment.

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Anonymous wrote:I see we’ve entered the crazy sock puppeting stage of this thread. Happens every time . .

Actually can't believe we have 16 pages of inane babbling and temper tantrums of how mean a voluntary process that 750,00 college students participate in.

Your replies, tone, and callousness validate every negative stereotype about sorority mean girl behavior.

No it doesn't, it highlights the ignorance of a few people on this board that think the Greek system is evil and that everyone that joins are shallow misguided morons that are constantly on the verge of death. For all of the "morally superior" parents out there making rude comments just remember that it's someone else's child and another human being your are disparaging. Not exactly your best moment.

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the hypocrisy is quite something

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Anonymous wrote:I see we’ve entered the crazy sock puppeting stage of this thread. Happens every time . .

Actually can't believe we have 16 pages of inane babbling and temper tantrums of how mean a voluntary process that 750,00 college students participate in.

Your replies, tone, and callousness validate every negative stereotype about sorority mean girl behavior.

No it doesn't, it highlights the ignorance of a few people on this board that think the Greek system is evil and that everyone that joins are shallow misguided morons that are constantly on the verge of death. For all of the "morally superior" parents out there making rude comments just remember that it's someone else's child and another human being your are disparaging. Not exactly your best moment.

There were just a couple of those. Mostly we have a few parents upset about how cruel it was, a mom who says it’s wonderful, and a few people that say it can be good or bad - it depends. You’re being super dramatic and defensive.

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Anonymous wrote:I see we’ve entered the crazy sock puppeting stage of this thread. Happens every time . .

Actually can't believe we have 16 pages of inane babbling and temper tantrums of how mean a voluntary process that 750,00 college students participate in.

Your replies, tone, and callousness validate every negative stereotype about sorority mean girl behavior.

No it doesn't, it highlights the ignorance of a few people on this board that think the Greek system is evil and that everyone that joins are shallow misguided morons that are constantly on the verge of death. For all of the "morally superior" parents out there making rude comments just remember that it's someone else's child and another human being your are disparaging. Not exactly your best moment.

There were just a couple of those. Mostly we have a few parents upset about how cruel it was, a mom who says it’s wonderful, and a few people that say it can be good or bad - it depends. You’re being super dramatic and defensive.

Again, no. No one is being defensive or dramatic, simply stating fact. "Super dramatic and defensive" are you 12?

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Anonymous wrote:OP I would advise against this.

Have her join specific clubs of her interest instead. Sorriorties can be cruel, rush is cruel.

Ugh, our resident Greek Life hater. Hi! Op, my DD pledged a sorority and can be described very much like your daughter. It has had its' ups and downs, but, in the end, has been a very gratifying experience for her and her friend group. I was ultimately on the side of no Greek life, while my DH fully supported it, with us deciding it was her life and her decision. She eventually received six bids to six sororities and wisely chose the one that she knew she would fit into, not the most popular one which was originally her first choice. The rush experience truly helped her sort out the minute differences that helped her arrive at the final selection. It has been a very supportive and enlightening environment she chose to place herself in, no regrets whatsoever. And yes, my DH gets to tell my "I told you so" whenever he wants on the subject. Lol.

But your DD got 6 bids, including her original first choice. Now imagine being a girl who only gets one bid (or none), and it's to the "lowest ranked" sorority and not one she envisioned being a part of. Can you see how demeaning and damaging that can be to her moral and overall well being?

+2 My freshman DD calls often in tears about how miserable she is at school now that all her friends are in a sorority and she isn’t. It is even worse when other girls mention how sorry they are and that they “can’t believe” she was dropped by XYZ sorority. It seems like a silly thing to transfer colleges over, but she really can’t see how this gets better over the next 4 years unless she finds all new friends. I was neutral on Greek life before, but this entire experience has turned me into a hater!

In this situation, a girl stands a very good chance of getting a sophomore invite to the sorority when her friends can talk her up at the rush meetings.

Very few, if any, sophomores get into top houses at most sororities. They prefer the pledge class to be freshman.

This is not true at my DD school. Recruitment numbers have been in steady decline the past couple of years. They need bodies. She said they get heat from corporate (or "council" or whatever they call the head office) to get more girls.

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Anonymous wrote:OP I would advise against this.

Have her join specific clubs of her interest instead. Sorriorties can be cruel, rush is cruel.

Ugh, our resident Greek Life hater. Hi! Op, my DD pledged a sorority and can be described very much like your daughter. It has had its' ups and downs, but, in the end, has been a very gratifying experience for her and her friend group. I was ultimately on the side of no Greek life, while my DH fully supported it, with us deciding it was her life and her decision. She eventually received six bids to six sororities and wisely chose the one that she knew she would fit into, not the most popular one which was originally her first choice. The rush experience truly helped her sort out the minute differences that helped her arrive at the final selection. It has been a very supportive and enlightening environment she chose to place herself in, no regrets whatsoever. And yes, my DH gets to tell my "I told you so" whenever he wants on the subject. Lol.

But your DD got 6 bids, including her original first choice. Now imagine being a girl who only gets one bid (or none), and it's to the "lowest ranked" sorority and not one she envisioned being a part of. Can you see how demeaning and damaging that can be to her moral and overall well being?

+2 My freshman DD calls often in tears about how miserable she is at school now that all her friends are in a sorority and she isn’t. It is even worse when other girls mention how sorry they are and that they “can’t believe” she was dropped by XYZ sorority. It seems like a silly thing to transfer colleges over, but she really can’t see how this gets better over the next 4 years unless she finds all new friends. I was neutral on Greek life before, but this entire experience has turned me into a hater!

In this situation, a girl stands a very good chance of getting a sophomore invite to the sorority when her friends can talk her up at the rush meetings.

Very few, if any, sophomores get into top houses at most sororities. They prefer the pledge class to be freshman.

This is not true at my DD school. Recruitment numbers have been in steady decline the past couple of years. They need bodies. She said they get heat from corporate (or "council" or whatever they call the head office) to get more girls.

The houses usually have a quota of upper class women which is completely different than the quota for freshman.

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Anonymous wrote:I see we’ve entered the crazy sock puppeting stage of this thread. Happens every time . .

Actually can't believe we have 16 pages of inane babbling and temper tantrums of how mean a voluntary process that 750,00 college students participate in.

Your replies, tone, and callousness validate every negative stereotype about sorority mean girl behavior.

No it doesn't, it highlights the ignorance of a few people on this board that think the Greek system is evil and that everyone that joins are shallow misguided morons that are constantly on the verge of death. For all of the "morally superior" parents out there making rude comments just remember that it's someone else's child and another human being your are disparaging. Not exactly your best moment.

There were just a couple of those. Mostly we have a few parents upset about how cruel it was, a mom who says it’s wonderful, and a few people that say it can be good or bad - it depends. You’re being super dramatic and defensive.

I think you’re wrong, there are like two people whose kids were shut out or they didn’t get into the house they wanted and several others whose DDs have had a fine time of it (certainly not just “a mom”). Historically on this board, there are 2-3 people who virulently disparage the Greek system over and over. It’s pretty recognizable across several threads but makes it look like everyone is against it. That’s not true at all. But again the OP is Long gone so let’s just agree that people have had varying experiences and if the OPs Dd wants to try it, she should.

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Anonymous wrote:OP I would advise against this.

Have her join specific clubs of her interest instead. Sorriorties can be cruel, rush is cruel.

Ugh, our resident Greek Life hater. Hi! Op, my DD pledged a sorority and can be described very much like your daughter. It has had its' ups and downs, but, in the end, has been a very gratifying experience for her and her friend group. I was ultimately on the side of no Greek life, while my DH fully supported it, with us deciding it was her life and her decision. She eventually received six bids to six sororities and wisely chose the one that she knew she would fit into, not the most popular one which was originally her first choice. The rush experience truly helped her sort out the minute differences that helped her arrive at the final selection. It has been a very supportive and enlightening environment she chose to place herself in, no regrets whatsoever. And yes, my DH gets to tell my "I told you so" whenever he wants on the subject. Lol.

But your DD got 6 bids, including her original first choice. Now imagine being a girl who only gets one bid (or none), and it's to the "lowest ranked" sorority and not one she envisioned being a part of. Can you see how demeaning and damaging that can be to her moral and overall well being?

+2 My freshman DD calls often in tears about how miserable she is at school now that all her friends are in a sorority and she isn’t. It is even worse when other girls mention how sorry they are and that they “can’t believe” she was dropped by XYZ sorority. It seems like a silly thing to transfer colleges over, but she really can’t see how this gets better over the next 4 years unless she finds all new friends. I was neutral on Greek life before, but this entire experience has turned me into a hater!

In this situation, a girl stands a very good chance of getting a sophomore invite to the sorority when her friends can talk her up at the rush meetings.

Very few, if any, sophomores get into top houses at most sororities. They prefer the pledge class to be freshman.

This is not true at my DD school. Recruitment numbers have been in steady decline the past couple of years. They need bodies. She said they get heat from corporate (or "council" or whatever they call the head office) to get more girls.

The houses usually have a quota of upper class women which is completely different than the quota for freshman.

And much, much smaller.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

And once again, just because your sorority at your school doesn't do it does NOT mean it doesn't happen elsewhere. You only have accurate information about rush at your sorority at your school.
There are hundreds of schools that Rush.
Plenty of people are stating that NOT EVERYONE gets bids at their school. So it obviously happens at many schools.

No, it isn’t obvious. Identify the school where you claim not everyone gets bids so we can get to the bottom of this.

Identify yourself so we can understand why you, internet stranger, are capable of getting to the bottom of this.

Umm, I know how to use google and look up rush at a particular university. Which we all could do, but it seems to be more fun to make up horror stories for some here.

“Make up” horror stories? Just because your experience was different, everyone else is lying?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes you can end up with no bids, you can also be dropped entirely from rush for poor behavior. One girl i know had her sights set on a top house so she was purposefully rude to all the other houses. Told them flat out that she didn't need to be there. Well guess what, she was dropped by everyone.

How does this happen? Why would she be rude?

I attended a no Greek school, which must've been fate as I would really fail at rush.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

And once again, just because your sorority at your school doesn't do it does NOT mean it doesn't happen elsewhere. You only have accurate information about rush at your sorority at your school.
There are hundreds of schools that Rush.
Plenty of people are stating that NOT EVERYONE gets bids at their school. So it obviously happens at many schools.

No, it isn’t obvious. Identify the school where you claim not everyone gets bids so we can get to the bottom of this.

Not the person you’re responding to but I understand this is true at UT Knoxville.

It's true across the SEC, and probably worse at Ole Miss, UGA, Auburn, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes you can end up with no bids, you can also be dropped entirely from rush for poor behavior. One girl i know had her sights set on a top house so she was purposefully rude to all the other houses. Told them flat out that she didn't need to be there. Well guess what, she was dropped by everyone.

How does this happen? Why would she be rude?

I attended a no Greek school, which must've been fate as I would really fail at rush.

Some people think they can game the system. If you only want one house and are guaranteed a bid and no houses want you back, they think that the house you preference will have to take you. It's an incorrect assumption though

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

And once again, just because your sorority at your school doesn't do it does NOT mean it doesn't happen elsewhere. You only have accurate information about rush at your sorority at your school.
There are hundreds of schools that Rush.
Plenty of people are stating that NOT EVERYONE gets bids at their school. So it obviously happens at many schools.

No, it isn’t obvious. Identify the school where you claim not everyone gets bids so we can get to the bottom of this.

Not the person you’re responding to but I understand this is true at UT Knoxville.

It's true across the SEC, and probably worse at Ole Miss, UGA, Auburn, etc.

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toxic and vapid. have her find one real friend who she takes classes with. she'll be better off...