Sorority recruitment

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

Pp Mom of college boy here — I was in a sorority in college, as well. Does that make me more of an “expert?”

“Everyone gets a bid” was not true when I was in a sorority, and it’s not true now at that college. In fact, because of the increase in the girls going through rush, it’s less true at this school. It may very well be true at the other person’s college, but the point is that every college handles rush differently — these are not National rules.

This is 100% wrong. National Panhellenic has moved to a model that requires every woman who finishes recruitment get a bid. Some women drop on their own. A fee are cross cut and don’t finish because they have no invitations for Preference round. But the at the vast majority of schools if a woman fuu it was not voluntarily drop out, she will be given a bid to a house. I can think of only one big school that doesn’t do this. (Indiana). They use a method called RFM. Chapters are all told how many women to release each round and how many to invite based on their yield. For “top” chapters, women who would be at the bottom of their bid list are released early, so that they can focus on their other options.

The “everyone gets a bid policy” is not a part of the binding agreements that Panhellenic councils agree to abide by, and I can’t find anything explicit in the “Best Practices” either. It does say under “best practices” that sororities should be willing to make a bid to girls who attend pref night, but there is nothing about making sure that all girls actually have invitations on pref night. So, sororities drop girls they don’t want to pledge before pref night, and then quotas are based on who is left on pref night. That doesn’t help you if you’re dropped before pref night.

https://npcwomen.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/NPC-Manual-of-Information.pdf

Why are you prattling on that women can get cross-cut? It's true. But it would be rare to get asked back to only houses that are top/middle of the pack (thus, eliminating the bottom house(s) that ask anyone back) early enough in the week, THEN get cross-cut prior to Pref round. At that point, the PNM would be a great candidate for a snap bid.

Because others (and you?) keep “prattling on” about how “everyone gets a bid.” It’s just not true.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole rush process is demented. I don't know about SLACs, but I went to UGA 30 years ago, and it was bad then. From what I hear from friend's kids, social media has not made it better/

My DC is at my alma mater (where I was in a sorority) and I can conclusively say that social media has made the entire process much worse. This school (not Bama!) has had some students with fairly high social media profiles and the number of women going out for rush and having their hearts set on the “top” houses has ballooned. What used to be just an informal, niche, rumor mill kind of “ranking” system has become very entrenched and documented on the internet/social media and now everyone thinks they’re a failure if they don’t pledge XYZ house. That thing about having a bid for everyone? Doesn’t work that way anymore. Too many girls. It’s kind of interesting — the boys seem unaffected by it and, if anything, less interested in frats. Guys are still rushing, but numbers are down, and plenty of guys are looking at the pledge process (hazing) and saying “no thanks.” Social media ruins everything.

Agree. At my DD’s school, rush for the girls was the miserable, one bid nightmare the girls fear. Run by a grad student who didn’t care about the girls’ experiences at all. They didn’t open enough spaces for the increased enrollment to intentionally force the one unpopular house to grow, counting on all those one bid girls to settle instead of quit: USING those girls, their first college experience, and their emotions to reach their goals of saving that house.

The boys on the other hand just dirty rush, no formal recruitment. So laid back.

Immature women just love to hurt other women and rush lets them pick “winners” and “losers” and continuing the hierarchy that they claim doesn’t exist but secretly love and take pride in. And all of this misery is endorsed by the school and the directors of recruitment. At this school, it got so bad that mothers were telling their girls to go to a different state U of they wanted to rush.

All schools give girls one bid.

Another my daughter was too good for the sorority she gotten into so the system is judgmental and superficial, but my kid is not post.

This is not true. At my DC’s school, there were only enough bids for about 50% of the girls who went through rush.

And my DC is a boy, so I don’t have any personal interest in it. I just heard a lot about the aftermath, and it wasn’t pretty.

I’m sure as a mom of a college aged boy you have more accurate info than a woman who handled in charge of rush at her sorority.

Pp Mom of college boy here — I was in a sorority in college, as well. Does that make me more of an “expert?”

“Everyone gets a bid” was not true when I was in a sorority, and it’s not true now at that college. In fact, because of the increase in the girls going through rush, it’s less true at this school. It may very well be true at the other person’s college, but the point is that every college handles rush differently — these are not National rules.

This is 100% wrong. National Panhellenic has moved to a model that requires every woman who finishes recruitment get a bid. Some women drop on their own. A fee are cross cut and don’t finish because they have no invitations for Preference round. But the at the vast majority of schools if a woman fuu it was not voluntarily drop out, she will be given a bid to a house. I can think of only one big school that doesn’t do this. (Indiana). They use a method called RFM. Chapters are all told how many women to release each round and how many to invite based on their yield. For “top” chapters, women who would be at the bottom of their bid list are released early, so that they can focus on their other options.

The “everyone gets a bid policy” is not a part of the binding agreements that Panhellenic councils agree to abide by, and I can’t find anything explicit in the “Best Practices” either. It does say under “best practices” that sororities should be willing to make a bid to girls who attend pref night, but there is nothing about making sure that all girls actually have invitations on pref night. So, sororities drop girls they don’t want to pledge before pref night, and then quotas are based on who is left on pref night. That doesn’t help you if you’re dropped before pref night.

https://npcwomen.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/NPC-Manual-of-Information.pdf

Why are you prattling on that women can get cross-cut? It's true. But it would be rare to get asked back to only houses that are top/middle of the pack (thus, eliminating the bottom house(s) that ask anyone back) early enough in the week, THEN get cross-cut prior to Pref round. At that point, the PNM would be a great candidate for a snap bid.

Because others (and you?) keep “prattling on” about how “everyone gets a bid.” It’s just not true.

Oh, and also that it is “National Panhellenic” policy, which is also not true.