Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Here is Justin Baldoni explaining what he was trying to do with a scene in which his character, Ryle, r*pes Lively's character, Lily, in a jealous rage:

"For me what that scene was more about was Ryle feeling like had lost all power and feeling so insecure and jealous that the only way in his mind that he could show her how much he loved her was um and I won't say the word that we used in developing it, but what was essentially to force any love she had for Atlas out of her. So Ryle's motivation, if you're talking about character motivation, or why he did what he did, from the filmmaking perspective and from the actor perspective, was um he was trying to, in his twisted mind, love... Atlas out of her. There's another word we used and I'm sure in your imagination you can go from there."

And after that SONY wanted him to stop doing press for the movie because Oh. My. God.

To be clear, he said this to a reporter at the Dallas Morning News during the early stages of his press tour. Not privately or in text. He said it to the press while trying to promote a move about domestic violence.

Um, he’s describing the scene in the movie. This is pretty much spot on and I don’t see the problem.

It's fine for him to discuss that with an acting coach or a director, or talk about it in an acting class. But it was an interview to promote the movie.

Sony did research to find out what test audience wanted to see in the movie and what they didn't, and had a list of "don't's". One of them was to not try to humanize Ryle or make the movie about his journey. Audiences said they wanted to hear about Lily's empowerment, and not to over focus on the abuse or on Ryle.

So this was actually very in appropriate choice from Baldoni. It was actually Sony that flagged that flagged it because it was so problematic.

There was no backlash against Justin for the way he marketed the film. Blake comes off as really immature. The purpose of art is to explore complexity. It’s a movie not a PSA. That’s why this ended up being basically a lifetime movie with no chance at an award.

Maybe there was no backlash because when he did dumb stuff like this, Blake didn't hire Melissa Nathan and Jed Wallace to "boost" it online or seed negative comments about it on Reddit.

Blake is getting pretty bad press right now. Is Baldoni boosting that too? Or could it be everyone read the filings and realized she’s a sociopath?!

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When i logged onto my laptop earlier Blake and Taylor were in the main Microsoft news backsplash.

This isn’t going to cancel swift by any means but lively is done and RR is damaged.

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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting that Jamey and Justin managed to marry women far more beautiful and centered than any of the Mean Girl actresses that find them so “creepy.”

You know how you can tell someone secretly hates women? When their first instinct when they don't like a woman is to call her ugly or fat. It's a trick that has never steered me wrong. Because someone who was not a misogynist would be able to make an argument on Baldoni's behalf that didn't literally rank the women involved in this story based on looks. And yet... you can't do it.

You the one ranting about Zionists and sex pests? Zip it.

Hit dogs will holler.

Sorry you were hit.

Funny how pretty much every woman in a professional capacity loathed Baldoni. Even Jen Abel and Melissa Nathan who were paid to pretend to like him, but his adoring fans who've never met him, think they know best. It's almost like they are getting paid. If not, how sad.

This is a stretch. He’s in his early 40s and he’s been in this business a while. The two PR people sound terrible and very unprofessional and should not have been gossiping with their buddies. I don’t think they’ll be working in PR anymore so I don’t think they’re the best example. They seem to be really petty and he seemed to be calling them out on that and the only adult in that room.

We see how Blake turned the cast against him so that’s a little biased. Colleen and Isabel had a perfectly fine working relationship with him until Blake got involved. Brandon too. The text with Blake feeding him information and telling him things like didn’t I hear Justin say this ???and him being like I’m not sure. That was truly pathetic.

And then Liz apparently didn’t like working with him but again after doing 124 episodes of a podcast with him pretty rich that she picked the New York Times drop to dramatically exit and then we find out she’s partners with Ryan Reynolds in a production company.

And then there was that Claire woman that sounded like she had a bad experience on a set, but it was nowhere near sexual harassment. Sounds like they just didn’t get along.

And that’s pretty much all they could find across his career. It’s not exactly a history of sexual harassment or abuse. They’re just does not seem to be much they’re there.

Now let’s do Blake. She famously does not get along with any gossip girl classmates, Anna Kendrick and her have a terrible relationship, her movie the rhythm section was a disaster and the biggest cinematic bomb in history with the kinds of tensions on that set. Harrison Ford hated working with her in age of Adaline and complained that she got the job because of Ryan and that she was entitled and couldn’t act.

Her lifestyle company preserve is filled with people who had to sign NDA’s about the sexual harassment and inappropriate working conditions from her brother who ran the company (I’m sure he was deeply qualified.)

And finally, the Sony executives called a terrorist and said that she brought this on herself and that she’d likely never work again.

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Anonymous wrote:When i logged onto my laptop earlier Blake and Taylor were in the main Microsoft news backsplash.

This isn’t going to cancel swift by any means but lively is done and RR is damaged.

Blake and Ryan have such a carefully curated image. It was reported well before this movie that they spent something like 75,000 a month on their social media banter. This has been a disaster.

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Question for the lawyers here:

There were major discrepancies between Blake's account of the dance scene in her original CRD complaint and the video Justin released. Blake later corrected her account of the dance scene in her amended complaint after the video was released.

If a juror is shown the video, can Wayfarer point to Blake's inconsistent testimony based on the original complaint to cast doubt on her reputation? Or will WF be barred from doing that and will a jury be instructed to only pay attention to Blake's claim in the amended complaint?

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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting that Jamey and Justin managed to marry women far more beautiful and centered than any of the Mean Girl actresses that find them so “creepy.”

You know how you can tell someone secretly hates women? When their first instinct when they don't like a woman is to call her ugly or fat. It's a trick that has never steered me wrong. Because someone who was not a misogynist would be able to make an argument on Baldoni's behalf that didn't literally rank the women involved in this story based on looks. And yet... you can't do it.

You the one ranting about Zionists and sex pests? Zip it.

Hit dogs will holler.

Sorry you were hit.

Funny how pretty much every woman in a professional capacity loathed Baldoni. Even Jen Abel and Melissa Nathan who were paid to pretend to like him, but his adoring fans who've never met him, think they know best. It's almost like they are getting paid. If not, how sad.

This is a stretch. He’s in his early 40s and he’s been in this business a while. The two PR people sound terrible and very unprofessional and should not have been gossiping with their buddies. I don’t think they’ll be working in PR anymore so I don’t think they’re the best example. They seem to be really petty and he seemed to be calling them out on that and the only adult in that room.

We see how Blake turned the cast against him so that’s a little biased. Colleen and Isabel had a perfectly fine working relationship with him until Blake got involved. Brandon too. The text with Blake feeding him information and telling him things like didn’t I hear Justin say this ???and him being like I’m not sure. That was truly pathetic.

And then Liz apparently didn’t like working with him but again after doing 124 episodes of a podcast with him pretty rich that she picked the New York Times drop to dramatically exit and then we find out she’s partners with Ryan Reynolds in a production company.

And then there was that Claire woman that sounded like she had a bad experience on a set, but it was nowhere near sexual harassment. Sounds like they just didn’t get along.

And that’s pretty much all they could find across his career. It’s not exactly a history of sexual harassment or abuse. They’re just does not seem to be much they’re there.

Now let’s do Blake. She famously does not get along with any gossip girl classmates, Anna Kendrick and her have a terrible relationship, her movie the rhythm section was a disaster and the biggest cinematic bomb in history with the kinds of tensions on that set. Harrison Ford hated working with her in age of Adaline and complained that she got the job because of Ryan and that she was entitled and couldn’t act.

Her lifestyle company preserve is filled with people who had to sign NDA’s about the sexual harassment and inappropriate working conditions from her brother who ran the company (I’m sure he was deeply qualified.)

And finally, the Sony executives called a terrorist and said that she brought this on herself and that she’d likely never work again.

I understood why she got the Gossip Girl gig: they needed a young girl with looks and attitude. Okay.

But she confirmed she cannot act in Age of Adaline, so I’m shocked anyone hired her after that disastrous painful to watch movie. Hearing that Harrison Ford and others thought she was difficult on set is more proof that she’s just as most assume: a stuck up mean girl.

This never ending drama from this dumb movie surely has ruined her career and image. Everything that recently leaked points to retribution: Blake was on a mission to destroy Justin, thought it would be easy enough thanks to her clout and connections, and she didn’t think it would drag on like this.

The reality is there are plenty of actresses and she isn’t so special that Hollywood will tolerate this. She’s done. And I suspect her husband’s image has been tarnished as well. At least he exudes a certain kind of charm, but likeability only gets you so far.

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Anonymous wrote:When i logged onto my laptop earlier Blake and Taylor were in the main Microsoft news backsplash.

This isn’t going to cancel swift by any means but lively is done and RR is damaged.

Even without this, Blake and Ryan were aging out of Hollywood. Blake was totally washed up for a decade and only got this role because of Ryan's clout after Deadpool. Ryan is 50 years old, he's an old man. At this point they're both radioactive.

I've never seen Taylor Swift take viral heat like this. The zoomer sleuths are going back and questioning EVERYTHING about her in retrospect totally phony goody two shoes image, her creepy behavior, all the cyberbullying and smear campaigns she did to ex boyfriends, chasing men linked to her friends, obviously fabricating all the drama with her masters and Scooter, her shameless greed and money grabbing ... EVERYTHING.

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So when all of the stuff going around that Taylor Swift was a Nazi and that was going viral and everyone was talking about it, it took about 10 or 12 days for them to realize it was bots. Rolling Stones did an article on it.

So if it was so obvious that there was this big smear campaign, why 18 months later have we not seen much evidence other than $90,000 for Jed Wallace? If $90,000 is all it takes to take Blake Ryan and Taylor down that man’s phone must be ringing off the hook.

I have no doubt he did some things to make some things go viral, but the issues that the Sony people were talking about that were epic level stupid in their words and taking her career were Blake’s own doing.

Did Jed plant a story that Blake launched a hair product line in alignment with promoting this movie? No.

Did Jed Wallace and Baldoni get her to market her and Ryan’s alcohol lines and name an alcohol drink after the abuser in the movie at one of the pop-up events? That was just dumb and offensive.

People were having an absolute field day over the “grab your girls and put on your florals” remarks that she made for a domestic violence movie as well. Whether or not that was her idea, she agreed to do it and did it and got backlash for it and that was not Baldoni‘s fault or Jed Wallace.

Add onto that the just very bad interviews and the journalist being deposed under oath saying that she had never been contacted by Baldoni’s team and that she wanted the clicks. She also released a bad Anne Hathaway video that was not nearly as bad but was anne being rude and Anne immediately issued a statement and apologized. And frankly no one’s talking about it cause it really was not a big deal.

Finally, it was really clear from Blake’s text with Taylor in December that she was still feeling bad about the interview she did with Brandon where she was asked about survivors of domestic violence, reaching out to her and making that sarcastic joke about should she drop a pin and give them her location. She knew that it was super tone deaf and got a lot of pushback and she clearly was still hung up on that. That was totally Blake.

What strikes me about Blake and Ryan is that they got past the point of listening to advisors. It’s just plain hubris. They ignored emails from heads of agencies, studio executives advising them differently, and Ryan just pushed back and couldn’t see past his anger and outrage, which is understandable but they did this to themselves.

What struck me early on was a couple of texts that leaked from Leslie Sloan and Ryan. Leslie was just asking him what she should do. Which I get, he is her client and so she’s not going to do anything without his permission, but it just seemed like they are surrounding themselves with the yes people who do what they want and they were too close to this to make sound decisions.

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I’m 1000000% convinced Ryan was writing her dramatic crazy emails and texts.

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Anonymous wrote:When i logged onto my laptop earlier Blake and Taylor were in the main Microsoft news backsplash.

This isn’t going to cancel swift by any means but lively is done and RR is damaged.

I think Isabella is done as well. She got some bad advice.

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Anonymous wrote:When i logged onto my laptop earlier Blake and Taylor were in the main Microsoft news backsplash.

This isn’t going to cancel swift by any means but lively is done and RR is damaged.

Even without this, Blake and Ryan were aging out of Hollywood. Blake was totally washed up for a decade and only got this role because of Ryan's clout after Deadpool. Ryan is 50 years old, he's an old man. At this point they're both radioactive.

I've never seen Taylor Swift take viral heat like this. The zoomer sleuths are going back and questioning EVERYTHING about her in retrospect totally phony goody two shoes image, her creepy behavior, all the cyberbullying and smear campaigns she did to ex boyfriends, chasing men linked to her friends, obviously fabricating all the drama with her masters and Scooter, her shameless greed and money grabbing ... EVERYTHING.

There are thousands of posts on Travis Kelce’s latest insta post by people disappointed in Taylor. It’s quite something,

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Anonymous wrote:When i logged onto my laptop earlier Blake and Taylor were in the main Microsoft news backsplash.

This isn’t going to cancel swift by any means but lively is done and RR is damaged.

Even without this, Blake and Ryan were aging out of Hollywood. Blake was totally washed up for a decade and only got this role because of Ryan's clout after Deadpool. Ryan is 50 years old, he's an old man. At this point they're both radioactive.

I've never seen Taylor Swift take viral heat like this. The zoomer sleuths are going back and questioning EVERYTHING about her in retrospect totally phony goody two shoes image, her creepy behavior, all the cyberbullying and smear campaigns she did to ex boyfriends, chasing men linked to her friends, obviously fabricating all the drama with her masters and Scooter, her shameless greed and money grabbing ... EVERYTHING.

There are thousands of posts on Travis Kelce’s latest insta post by people disappointed in Taylor. It’s quite something,

Should have said thousands of comments.

[Anonymous]

Couple of thoughts - the interview where JB discussed his characters motivations wasn’t great but it wasn’t awful either - in the scheme of things it was a non event compared to the on going blunders made by BL.

The judge seemed to be echoing earlier thoughts that we had discussed. Defending oneself isn’t retaliation. I’m not a lawyer but I think most of BL’s legal case gets tossed. Regardless, BL is an awful person and is not going to recover from this.

I saw a poll on TMZ and it split on Swifts involvement. She may be able to lay victim once again.

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Swift is an easy exposure target for zoomers because she’s a talentless industry plant we’ve been led to believe is a Beatles tier genius. These texts are a smoking gun that Swift is and always has been a fraud.

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Anonymous wrote:Couple of thoughts - the interview where JB discussed his characters motivations wasn’t great but it wasn’t awful either - in the scheme of things it was a non event compared to the on going blunders made by BL.

The judge seemed to be echoing earlier thoughts that we had discussed. Defending oneself isn’t retaliation. I’m not a lawyer but I think most of BL’s legal case gets tossed. Regardless, BL is an awful person and is not going to recover from this.

I saw a poll on TMZ and it split on Swifts involvement. She may be able to lay victim once again.

The part of the hearing that I found most interesting was Thor the judge realizes the bulk of the claims were not conventional harassment claims but disagreements about how scenes with intimacy should be filmed. I found this interesting because several posters here have been unable to grasp that. He mentioned creative freedom, and seems to be pondering whether nudity rider and other contractual remedies are a better vehicle for such disputes than sexual harassment laws.