Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

[Anonymous]

Blake shouldn’t have done the movie so soon after baby 4. The scene where he is seducing her and she refuses to have her body shown so she stays in these dumb high waisted tights was so stupid. They should have just cut the scene. It’s super obvious in all her wardrobe choices she was self conscious about her body and it really distracts from the movie.

Then to see she emailed the head of WME complaining she was working out 4 hours a day and couldn’t lose weight…..like why was that his problem and what was he supposed to do about it?

She had another movie lined up for the summer - why not just focus on that?

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Anonymous wrote:Here is Justin Baldoni explaining what he was trying to do with a scene in which his character, Ryle, r*pes Lively's character, Lily, in a jealous rage:

"For me what that scene was more about was Ryle feeling like had lost all power and feeling so insecure and jealous that the only way in his mind that he could show her how much he loved her was um and I won't say the word that we used in developing it, but what was essentially to force any love she had for Atlas out of her. So Ryle's motivation, if you're talking about character motivation, or why he did what he did, from the filmmaking perspective and from the actor perspective, was um he was trying to, in his twisted mind, love... Atlas out of her. There's another word we used and I'm sure in your imagination you can go from there."

And after that SONY wanted him to stop doing press for the movie because Oh. My. God.

To be clear, he said this to a reporter at the Dallas Morning News during the early stages of his press tour. Not privately or in text. He said it to the press while trying to promote a move about domestic violence.

Um, he’s describing the scene in the movie. This is pretty much spot on and I don’t see the problem.

It's fine for him to discuss that with an acting coach or a director, or talk about it in an acting class. But it was an interview to promote the movie.

Sony did research to find out what test audience wanted to see in the movie and what they didn't, and had a list of "don't's". One of them was to not try to humanize Ryle or make the movie about his journey. Audiences said they wanted to hear about Lily's empowerment, and not to over focus on the abuse or on Ryle.

So this was actually very in appropriate choice from Baldoni. It was actually Sony that flagged that flagged it because it was so problematic.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is Justin Baldoni explaining what he was trying to do with a scene in which his character, Ryle, r*pes Lively's character, Lily, in a jealous rage:

"For me what that scene was more about was Ryle feeling like had lost all power and feeling so insecure and jealous that the only way in his mind that he could show her how much he loved her was um and I won't say the word that we used in developing it, but what was essentially to force any love she had for Atlas out of her. So Ryle's motivation, if you're talking about character motivation, or why he did what he did, from the filmmaking perspective and from the actor perspective, was um he was trying to, in his twisted mind, love... Atlas out of her. There's another word we used and I'm sure in your imagination you can go from there."

And after that SONY wanted him to stop doing press for the movie because Oh. My. God.

To be clear, he said this to a reporter at the Dallas Morning News during the early stages of his press tour. Not privately or in text. He said it to the press while trying to promote a move about domestic violence.

Um, he’s describing the scene in the movie. This is pretty much spot on and I don’t see the problem.

It's fine for him to discuss that with an acting coach or a director, or talk about it in an acting class. But it was an interview to promote the movie.

Sony did research to find out what test audience wanted to see in the movie and what they didn't, and had a list of "don't's". One of them was to not try to humanize Ryle or make the movie about his journey. Audiences said they wanted to hear about Lily's empowerment, and not to over focus on the abuse or on Ryle.

So this was actually very in appropriate choice from Baldoni. It was actually Sony that flagged that flagged it because it was so problematic.

There was no backlash against Justin for the way he marketed the film. Blake comes off as really immature. The purpose of art is to explore complexity. It’s a movie not a PSA. That’s why this ended up being basically a lifetime movie with no chance at an award.

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Anonymous wrote:If anything, Sony is probably pissed they went with the lower rated cut, potentially forfeiting tens of millions on a cut that audience preferred.

So the movie that came out was her crappier version? I didn't know who won that fight

Yes, Sony hesitated and she recruited Matt Damon and her agency to pressure Sony.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is Justin Baldoni explaining what he was trying to do with a scene in which his character, Ryle, r*pes Lively's character, Lily, in a jealous rage:

"For me what that scene was more about was Ryle feeling like had lost all power and feeling so insecure and jealous that the only way in his mind that he could show her how much he loved her was um and I won't say the word that we used in developing it, but what was essentially to force any love she had for Atlas out of her. So Ryle's motivation, if you're talking about character motivation, or why he did what he did, from the filmmaking perspective and from the actor perspective, was um he was trying to, in his twisted mind, love... Atlas out of her. There's another word we used and I'm sure in your imagination you can go from there."

And after that SONY wanted him to stop doing press for the movie because Oh. My. God.

To be clear, he said this to a reporter at the Dallas Morning News during the early stages of his press tour. Not privately or in text. He said it to the press while trying to promote a move about domestic violence.

Um, he’s describing the scene in the movie. This is pretty much spot on and I don’t see the problem.

It's fine for him to discuss that with an acting coach or a director, or talk about it in an acting class. But it was an interview to promote the movie.

Sony did research to find out what test audience wanted to see in the movie and what they didn't, and had a list of "don't's". One of them was to not try to humanize Ryle or make the movie about his journey. Audiences said they wanted to hear about Lily's empowerment, and not to over focus on the abuse or on Ryle.

So this was actually very in appropriate choice from Baldoni. It was actually Sony that flagged that flagged it because it was so problematic.

Idk, his version scored much better than hers, maybe he should be given a bit of leeway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the giant document dump is confusing people. People are reading things that Blake, Justin, and others said in texts and emails that are coming out now in the unsealing, and conflating that with arguments being made in court. They are the same thing.

Blake told friends in private texts/emails that she "basically" had to direct the movie because she felt Justin was so incompetent. But that is not the argument she's making in legal filings. At no point in any of her filings is she contending that, actually, she directed the movie. It's just something she said to friends. Now, depending on whose side you're on here, you might view those claims as either (1) evidence that Blake had a lot of power on the movie and therefore was not an employee and also could not have been harassed, OR (2) evidence that Justin was so incompetent that Blake felt she had no choice but to take over.

But it's actually not good evidence of either. People say all kinds of stuff in communications with friends. None of these were formal work communications. I tend to think the texts with Taylor and Matt Damon, the email to Affleck, etc., as fun as they are to discuss, will have little to no bearing on the case. Most likely won't even be brought in at trial, and those that are will mostly be brought just to show something like "state of mind" not to establish Blake's employment status.

The PGA letter is obviously different, that's actual evidence of Blake's position within the film. But that one actually makes me laugh because it puts both sides in a bind.

The pro-Lively folks want to argue that (1) Justin was incompetent and Blake had no choice but to take over the movie, making the PGA letter truthful and her PGA credit merited, AND (2) that Blake was just an employee of the movie and Justin/Jamey were very powerful and harassed her. See how that's hard to argue?

But the pro-Baldoni folks wind up in a similar bind because they want the opposite. They want to argue that (1) Blake didn't deserve he PGA credit and didn't actually do the stuff she claims to have done in the PGA letter and was not as instrumental in the making of the movie as she claims, AND (2) that she was too powerful and had too much control over the set to have been harassed by Justin and Jamey.

It's just funny. Everyone sucks here, and everyone is a hypocrite!

Blake lively was hired to star in a movie. End of story.The competence or lack therof of the director was none of her business.

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Anonymous wrote:Source for Baldoni's parents being MAGA? I read his depo and to me it came off like he was laughing at the idea of him being with "red hats" because it's far from his worldview. (PP who thinks his supporters are SJW).

Sorry there was a Reddit thread that put together a series of articles, etc on them. I can’t find it so I will retract that statement. But the rest is easily backed up by a quick google search, especially the associations of his lawyers and representatives.

Once again, it’s all bs. Keep calling her out on it.

And if you are also the poster making representations about the case law last night, I am still waiting for the cites for that.

Then address the actions of his lawyer and representatives. Why are they clearly cultivating support from conservative media and conservative supporters? And why can’t you address it? And if Justin is big on social justice and feminism, why is he allowing it?

Baldoni supporters are all over this thread bringing up nonsense that has nothing to do with this case. I think it’s well within the realm of discussion to address his team, given what happened in Depp v Heard.

Also not the person you ask for case cites.

Oh please, you falsely have claimed he is MAGA and previously, that anyone that posts on “It Ends with Lawsuits” is MAGA. This is clearly a “you” issue.

Meanwhile, you are stanning Mean Girl Blake who got married on a plantation and only made friends with the white people on the set IEWU, thinks it’s funny to mock the religion of others and uses an Alladin emojito refer to Justin because she is mistakenly of the belief he is Middleeastern due to his faith. Can’t see the forest for the trees, apparently.

+100, I'm a middle eastern woman, and I support Baldoni. I was also an Amber Heard supporter during that debacle. The blatant racism from Lively and Reynolds among many other heinous things is enough to make me sick. I can't believe anyone is defending these psychopaths who don't give a crap about anyone but themselves and throw around lawsuits for fun.

Wayfarer and Sarowitz are pro Israel. Hope you sleep well tonight.

That doesn't give mediocre lively a license to be a vile person. Her talent agency is also full of pro Israel Zionists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the giant document dump is confusing people. People are reading things that Blake, Justin, and others said in texts and emails that are coming out now in the unsealing, and conflating that with arguments being made in court. They are the same thing.

Blake told friends in private texts/emails that she "basically" had to direct the movie because she felt Justin was so incompetent. But that is not the argument she's making in legal filings. At no point in any of her filings is she contending that, actually, she directed the movie. It's just something she said to friends. Now, depending on whose side you're on here, you might view those claims as either (1) evidence that Blake had a lot of power on the movie and therefore was not an employee and also could not have been harassed, OR (2) evidence that Justin was so incompetent that Blake felt she had no choice but to take over.

But it's actually not good evidence of either. People say all kinds of stuff in communications with friends. None of these were formal work communications. I tend to think the texts with Taylor and Matt Damon, the email to Affleck, etc., as fun as they are to discuss, will have little to no bearing on the case. Most likely won't even be brought in at trial, and those that are will mostly be brought just to show something like "state of mind" not to establish Blake's employment status.

The PGA letter is obviously different, that's actual evidence of Blake's position within the film. But that one actually makes me laugh because it puts both sides in a bind.

The pro-Lively folks want to argue that (1) Justin was incompetent and Blake had no choice but to take over the movie, making the PGA letter truthful and her PGA credit merited, AND (2) that Blake was just an employee of the movie and Justin/Jamey were very powerful and harassed her. See how that's hard to argue?

But the pro-Baldoni folks wind up in a similar bind because they want the opposite. They want to argue that (1) Blake didn't deserve he PGA credit and didn't actually do the stuff she claims to have done in the PGA letter and was not as instrumental in the making of the movie as she claims, AND (2) that she was too powerful and had too much control over the set to have been harassed by Justin and Jamey.

It's just funny. Everyone sucks here, and everyone is a hypocrite!

Blake lively was hired to star in a movie. End of story.The competence or lack therof of the director was none of her business.

If she had just done what she was hired to do and not tried to control everything, everyone would have been better off, but especially her.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a mark of me not "getting" social media, but I have never understood why people got so worked up about Blake and other cast members (and I guess Hoover and perhaps some others) unfollowing Justin on Instagram. They didn't like him. I also don't follow people I dislike on Instagram. If I was a public person and someone asked me "why did you unfollow so-and-so on Instagram" I'd say "none of your business, that is not something you should care about" because... it's not.

It just seems like a weird amount of drama over something that I think really, really does not matter. It's just the shallowest possible thing.

Come on. It’s a huge public FU because people track that.

Did you not see the absolute sh-t storm when Travis unfollowed Ryan? They knew that it would be public with an hour. It’s a public way of saying I no longer like this person without having to put out a statement and if you don’t think it has impact, look at the Sony executives absolutely freaking out when it happened because they were afraid of what it would do to the movie. It mattered a lot.

But yes, it’s incredibly childish. It’s just a bunch of toddlers lashing out.

Yes, I see that some people online are obsessive about finding out which celebs follow others and post reddit threads and speculate about it. I have seen those headlines.

But it also seems to me that the obvious response to that would be "guys, it doesn't matter, it's just social media." People will get worked up about anything, but they forget about it the next day. The news cycle is always churning and this isn't actually important.

I just tend to think that could have been handled by just telling anyone who asks that it's not important, and they want to talk about the movie.

I guess I don't view it as childish to unfollow (why follow someone you actively don't like). I do think it's childish to care. Just let it go. Like in the example of Jenny Slate, she says she unfollowed because she didn't want to help Justin promote a "feminist ally" brand that she thought was BS, and I think that was a genuinely held opinion from her, not something she was talked into. She's entitled to that. But also -- who cares? Just move on. It's the fixating on this that I think is infantile.

Have to hard disagree about Slate. She literally was at Blake’s beck and call, and did everything Blake asked her to, it’s all in the texts. Blake even basically scripted Slate’s housing complaint.

Wasn't Slate the first to unfollow though? And also, I don't think Baldoni even noticed he was being unfollowed until Ryan did it. At least, that's what I remember from his texts with Abel.

I think it's pretty clear from Slate's depo and texts that she really disliked Justin from the jump and didn't need encouragement from Blake. She also really clearly articulates her issue with him. It's not like "I just didn't like him" or "he gave me the creeps." She considered him a fraud because he presents as an ally to women and then his in person behavior is... not that. Blake doesn't even express it that clearly, so I don't think Jenny is getting that from Blake.

Jenny slate is the only person involved in this with critical thinking skills. She was valedictorian at one of the best prep schools in the country and then went to an Ivy League college.

Could you be any more status obsessed ?

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Anonymous wrote:Blake shouldn’t have done the movie so soon after baby 4. The scene where he is seducing her and she refuses to have her body shown so she stays in these dumb high waisted tights was so stupid. They should have just cut the scene. It’s super obvious in all her wardrobe choices she was self conscious about her body and it really distracts from the movie.

Then to see she emailed the head of WME complaining she was working out 4 hours a day and couldn’t lose weight…..like why was that his problem and what was he supposed to do about it?

She had another movie lined up for the summer - why not just focus on that?

She said in her PGA letter that she did all that work on wardrobe. The stills came out and the comments on her looks were critical and hilarious if mean.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is Justin Baldoni explaining what he was trying to do with a scene in which his character, Ryle, r*pes Lively's character, Lily, in a jealous rage:

"For me what that scene was more about was Ryle feeling like had lost all power and feeling so insecure and jealous that the only way in his mind that he could show her how much he loved her was um and I won't say the word that we used in developing it, but what was essentially to force any love she had for Atlas out of her. So Ryle's motivation, if you're talking about character motivation, or why he did what he did, from the filmmaking perspective and from the actor perspective, was um he was trying to, in his twisted mind, love... Atlas out of her. There's another word we used and I'm sure in your imagination you can go from there."

And after that SONY wanted him to stop doing press for the movie because Oh. My. God.

To be clear, he said this to a reporter at the Dallas Morning News during the early stages of his press tour. Not privately or in text. He said it to the press while trying to promote a move about domestic violence.

Um, he’s describing the scene in the movie. This is pretty much spot on and I don’t see the problem.

It's fine for him to discuss that with an acting coach or a director, or talk about it in an acting class. But it was an interview to promote the movie.

Sony did research to find out what test audience wanted to see in the movie and what they didn't, and had a list of "don't's". One of them was to not try to humanize Ryle or make the movie about his journey. Audiences said they wanted to hear about Lily's empowerment, and not to over focus on the abuse or on Ryle.

So this was actually very in appropriate choice from Baldoni. It was actually Sony that flagged that flagged it because it was so problematic.

There was no backlash against Justin for the way he marketed the film. Blake comes off as really immature. The purpose of art is to explore complexity. It’s a movie not a PSA. That’s why this ended up being basically a lifetime movie with no chance at an award.

Maybe there was no backlash because when he did dumb stuff like this, Blake didn't hire Melissa Nathan and Jed Wallace to "boost" it online or seed negative comments about it on Reddit.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is Justin Baldoni explaining what he was trying to do with a scene in which his character, Ryle, r*pes Lively's character, Lily, in a jealous rage:

"For me what that scene was more about was Ryle feeling like had lost all power and feeling so insecure and jealous that the only way in his mind that he could show her how much he loved her was um and I won't say the word that we used in developing it, but what was essentially to force any love she had for Atlas out of her. So Ryle's motivation, if you're talking about character motivation, or why he did what he did, from the filmmaking perspective and from the actor perspective, was um he was trying to, in his twisted mind, love... Atlas out of her. There's another word we used and I'm sure in your imagination you can go from there."

And after that SONY wanted him to stop doing press for the movie because Oh. My. God.

To be clear, he said this to a reporter at the Dallas Morning News during the early stages of his press tour. Not privately or in text. He said it to the press while trying to promote a move about domestic violence.

Um, he’s describing the scene in the movie. This is pretty much spot on and I don’t see the problem.

It's fine for him to discuss that with an acting coach or a director, or talk about it in an acting class. But it was an interview to promote the movie.

Sony did research to find out what test audience wanted to see in the movie and what they didn't, and had a list of "don't's". One of them was to not try to humanize Ryle or make the movie about his journey. Audiences said they wanted to hear about Lily's empowerment, and not to over focus on the abuse or on Ryle.

So this was actually very in appropriate choice from Baldoni. It was actually Sony that flagged that flagged it because it was so problematic.

There was no backlash against Justin for the way he marketed the film. Blake comes off as really immature. The purpose of art is to explore complexity. It’s a movie not a PSA. That’s why this ended up being basically a lifetime movie with no chance at an award.

Maybe there was no backlash because when he did dumb stuff like this, Blake didn't hire Melissa Nathan and Jed Wallace to "boost" it online or seed negative comments about it on Reddit.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Here is Justin Baldoni explaining what he was trying to do with a scene in which his character, Ryle, r*pes Lively's character, Lily, in a jealous rage:

"For me what that scene was more about was Ryle feeling like had lost all power and feeling so insecure and jealous that the only way in his mind that he could show her how much he loved her was um and I won't say the word that we used in developing it, but what was essentially to force any love she had for Atlas out of her. So Ryle's motivation, if you're talking about character motivation, or why he did what he did, from the filmmaking perspective and from the actor perspective, was um he was trying to, in his twisted mind, love... Atlas out of her. There's another word we used and I'm sure in your imagination you can go from there."

And after that SONY wanted him to stop doing press for the movie because Oh. My. God.

To be clear, he said this to a reporter at the Dallas Morning News during the early stages of his press tour. Not privately or in text. He said it to the press while trying to promote a move about domestic violence.

Um, he’s describing the scene in the movie. This is pretty much spot on and I don’t see the problem.

It's fine for him to discuss that with an acting coach or a director, or talk about it in an acting class. But it was an interview to promote the movie.

Sony did research to find out what test audience wanted to see in the movie and what they didn't, and had a list of "don't's". One of them was to not try to humanize Ryle or make the movie about his journey. Audiences said they wanted to hear about Lily's empowerment, and not to over focus on the abuse or on Ryle.

So this was actually very in appropriate choice from Baldoni. It was actually Sony that flagged that flagged it because it was so problematic.

There was no backlash against Justin for the way he marketed the film. Blake comes off as really immature. The purpose of art is to explore complexity. It’s a movie not a PSA. That’s why this ended up being basically a lifetime movie with no chance at an award.

Maybe there was no backlash because when he did dumb stuff like this, Blake didn't hire Melissa Nathan and Jed Wallace to "boost" it online or seed negative comments about it on Reddit.

Are you joking? She has some super expensive, ex CIA social media guy that she still employs.

[Anonymous]

The comedians have discovered the Blake and Ryan emails, and have hit TikTok. So funny. How some of you can defend their obvious nonsense is beyond me.

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Anonymous wrote:NY Post calls Blake and Taylor pathological lying middle aged mean girls. Ouch.

https://nypost.com/2026/01/22/opinion/blake-lively-never-graduated-from-being-a-middle-school-mean-girl/

Its encouraging watching some white women call out these vile white women who are weaponizing #Metoo for their petty grievances thereby hurting real victims of sex crimes.