Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

[Anonymous]

Per Jeff’s request, a new thread. Will Arlington Mom dominate once again?

[Anonymous]

Subpoena Serena vs Justin Full of Baloney

[Anonymous]

I am disappointed he is not referred to as Jason Baldoni in the title here.

I predict I will continue to dominate in correctly predicting the legal outcome re various filings since the Baldoni supporters cannot seem to understand that their boy chose the best PR guy but the absolute worst attorney in California. But he's killing it on Reddit, so I guess it's all worth it to him.

Arlington Mom

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am disappointed he is not referred to as Jason Baldoni in the title here.

I predict I will continue to dominate in correctly predicting the legal outcome re various filings since the Baldoni supporters cannot seem to understand that their boy chose the best PR guy but the absolute worst attorney in California. But he's killing it on Reddit, so I guess it's all worth it to him.

Arlington Mom

I too am sad to say goodbye to Jason Baldoni. The man, the myth, the legend.

I look forward to Arlington Mom's prescient takes on legal developments, but suspect his thread with also become mired in discussion about Blake's weight, the state of her marriage, and whether she was too old for this role.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am disappointed he is not referred to as Jason Baldoni in the title here.

I predict I will continue to dominate in correctly predicting the legal outcome re various filings since the Baldoni supporters cannot seem to understand that their boy chose the best PR guy but the absolute worst attorney in California. But he's killing it on Reddit, so I guess it's all worth it to him.

Arlington Mom

Off to a bad start with today’s order.

[Anonymous]

Can someone summarize the key debates in the previous thread?

I’m calling it now. Blake’s new castaway movie will do “surprisingly” well.

She’s still a gorgeous woman (looks better thick too) and people crave mindless romcoms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone summarize the key debates in the previous thread?

I’m calling it now. Blake’s new castaway movie will do “surprisingly” well.

She’s still a gorgeous woman (looks better thick too) and people crave mindless romcoms.

Blake is looking too old to star in romcoms.

Playing the “hot blonde” doesn’t work when you’re in your 40’s and look it.

[Anonymous]

It will be years until this movie is made if ever. It’s basically only Blake committed at this point. Seems like yet another primarily pr move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone summarize the key debates in the previous thread?

I’m calling it now. Blake’s new castaway movie will do “surprisingly” well.

She’s still a gorgeous woman (looks better thick too) and people crave mindless romcoms.

Blake is looking too old to star in romcoms.

Playing the “hot blonde” doesn’t work when you’re in your 40’s and look it.

I actually think this movie sounds like a good fit for her age and personality. Rom coms are targeted at women, not men. The point is not to cast the most stunningly beautiful young actress you can find. Rom com actresses have to be relatable. That's why women in rom coms are always falling down, putting their foot in their mouth, or making boneheaded mistakes at work -- it helps the women those films/tv shows are targeted at feel like they can relate to someone who otherwise would be out of their league. So Blake actually suits a rom com concept more in her late 30s or 40s than she would have at 28, because her age and status as a mom (and maybe even her experience with this lawsuit) humanizes her and makes her feel like an attainable avatar for regular women watching her on screen. Thus, when she gets the guy and lands the big job, the audience will root for her instead of resenting her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone summarize the key debates in the previous thread?

I’m calling it now. Blake’s new castaway movie will do “surprisingly” well.

She’s still a gorgeous woman (looks better thick too) and people crave mindless romcoms.

Blake is looking too old to star in romcoms.

Playing the “hot blonde” doesn’t work when you’re in your 40’s and look it.

I actually think this movie sounds like a good fit for her age and personality. Rom coms are targeted at women, not men. The point is not to cast the most stunningly beautiful young actress you can find. Rom com actresses have to be relatable. That's why women in rom coms are always falling down, putting their foot in their mouth, or making boneheaded mistakes at work -- it helps the women those films/tv shows are targeted at feel like they can relate to someone who otherwise would be out of their league. So Blake actually suits a rom com concept more in her late 30s or 40s than she would have at 28, because her age and status as a mom (and maybe even her experience with this lawsuit) humanizes her and makes her feel like an attainable avatar for regular women watching her on screen. Thus, when she gets the guy and lands the big job, the audience will root for her instead of resenting her.

The problem with that viewpoint is that romcoms are usually about women in their 20’s or 30’s. I agree that there’s a market for actresses that have an interesting look and it’s not just about casting the most beautiful model.

But it has to make sense…

An actress who looks 40+ playing a 20 something takes me out of the story. That’s part of the reason Blake fell flat in IEWU. It’s bad casting. Like the 1980’s movies with “high school” students who were in their 30’s or white actors in blackface.

[Anonymous]

Yeah they need to lean into her oatmeal. Blake is insecure about not being a young starlet - of course. Ryan wants tradwife and tradwife can never win.

But is she just accepts her body. I’m trying to think. Maybe Melanie Zelinsky style, women will love it. She’s a mama. She’s got pooch. She’s got life in her face. That’s beautiful. The bag lady approach in IEWU wasn’t cute.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am disappointed he is not referred to as Jason Baldoni in the title here.

I predict I will continue to dominate in correctly predicting the legal outcome re various filings since the Baldoni supporters cannot seem to understand that their boy chose the best PR guy but the absolute worst attorney in California. But he's killing it on Reddit, so I guess it's all worth it to him.

Arlington Mom

Off to a bad start with today’s order.

Elsewhere actually I had suggested WF could try to move to strike Lively's filing here, and that under similar circumstances (where Lively filed a response that wasn't really called for) the judge had determined he would not consider it. So I'm doing pretty good actually. :p

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone summarize the key debates in the previous thread?

I’m calling it now. Blake’s new castaway movie will do “surprisingly” well.

She’s still a gorgeous woman (looks better thick too) and people crave mindless romcoms.

Blake is looking too old to star in romcoms.

Playing the “hot blonde” doesn’t work when you’re in your 40’s and look it.

I actually think this movie sounds like a good fit for her age and personality. Rom coms are targeted at women, not men. The point is not to cast the most stunningly beautiful young actress you can find. Rom com actresses have to be relatable. That's why women in rom coms are always falling down, putting their foot in their mouth, or making boneheaded mistakes at work -- it helps the women those films/tv shows are targeted at feel like they can relate to someone who otherwise would be out of their league. So Blake actually suits a rom com concept more in her late 30s or 40s than she would have at 28, because her age and status as a mom (and maybe even her experience with this lawsuit) humanizes her and makes her feel like an attainable avatar for regular women watching her on screen. Thus, when she gets the guy and lands the big job, the audience will root for her instead of resenting her.

The problem with that viewpoint is that romcoms are usually about women in their 20’s or 30’s. I agree that there’s a market for actresses that have an interesting look and it’s not just about casting the most beautiful model.

But it has to make sense…

An actress who looks 40+ playing a 20 something takes me out of the story. That’s part of the reason Blake fell flat in IEWU. It’s bad casting. Like the 1980’s movies with “high school” students who were in their 30’s or white actors in blackface.

She wasn't cast as a 20-something though. She was cast to play her age (which is currently 37, not 40+). Baldoni specifically rejected suggestions of younger actresses because he was playing Ryle and he thought they'd look way too young with him (he actually is in his 40s). He was really enthusiastic about Lively's interest in the role. So she was hired to play a woman in her 30s.

Colleen Hoover has also talked about why the characters were aged up for the movie, and how she wrote the novel when she was younger and less experienced and she now realizes the ages of the characters in the book don't really make sense. An established neurosurgeon in his late 20s? An entrepreneur starting and running a successful retail business in her early 20s? It doesn't make sense. Justin's and Blake's actual ages make much more sense for these characters, plus having older actors/characters works better with the subject matter because then it's less about the impulsive behaviors of younger people with limited relationship experience. It allows the characters to all be held more accountable for their actions in a way that wouldn't necessarily be true for younger characters.

Also arguing that an actor playing down in age is similar to blackface is deranged. Time for a level set there. No one thinks Gabrielle Carteris should be canceled for playing a high school student when she was in her 30s -- they just think it was funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone summarize the key debates in the previous thread?

I’m calling it now. Blake’s new castaway movie will do “surprisingly” well.

She’s still a gorgeous woman (looks better thick too) and people crave mindless romcoms.

+1

Can someone provide a TLDR? I was keeping up with the last thread until maybe page 300 or 400 but no idea what’s going on now. Am very curious. Who’s “winning” now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone summarize the key debates in the previous thread?

I’m calling it now. Blake’s new castaway movie will do “surprisingly” well.

She’s still a gorgeous woman (looks better thick too) and people crave mindless romcoms.

Blake is looking too old to star in romcoms.

Playing the “hot blonde” doesn’t work when you’re in your 40’s and look it.

Actresses who have made rom coms in recent years: Sandra Bullock (The Lost City), Julia Roberts (Ticket to Paradise), Kristen Bell (Nobody Wants This), Reese Witherspoon (You're Cordially Invited, Your Place or Mine). Bell is the youngest of that group at 45. Sandra Bullock is in her 60s.

It's usually middle aged women who watch rom coms anyway. It's a less appealing format for Gen Z. So it's Boomers, Gen X, and Millennials watching anyway. Women in their 30s and up.