PSA: Please do not host a Christian seder

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The privilege on display here is sad, but unsurprising.

Newsflash: You can go do whatever you want in your own home and in your own house of worship, too!

Newsflash: it’s not ok to appropriate people’s cultures or religions.

Christianity was founded by Jews, and as adapted and merged them with other cultures. The Hebrew Scriptures are the foundation for the New Testament and are an important part of the Bible.

So Judaism is Christianity Jr. to you. You realize that Jews don’t see it that way? For the umpteenth time, nobody owns Exodus, but Passover is a Jewish rite.

Guess what? The stories in the New Testament of the Christian Bible are a big part of Islam. Jesus is a prophet in the Quran—and not even the most important one! I’m Christian and I can deal with that. You need to find a way to deal with the fact that Judaism and Christianity (and Islam) have a lot of overlap and most of it is in the Torah and old testament.

Do you understand that what you’re saying has no relevance to celebrating a religious rite?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder: if any other minority group was saying something was offensive to them, would they be getting this much pushback?

I guess it would depend if the people making that argument also had reading comprehension problems like we have here. The bulk of this thread is invented by one or two people pushing an agenda that lots of Christians have Passover seders when that isn’t true.

If it’s not common, then why are there so many articles urging Christians to not do it, including in mainstream publications like WaPo?

There are 205 million Christians in the US. And a handful of articles saying do not celebrate Passover. Yep. “Lots” of Christians sure are celebrating Passover.

so if it’s no big deal, why are you here? except for to police exactly how you think Jews should think.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder: if any other minority group was saying something was offensive to them, would they be getting this much pushback?

I guess it would depend if the people making that argument also had reading comprehension problems like we have here. The bulk of this thread is invented by one or two people pushing an agenda that lots of Christians have Passover seders when that isn’t true.

If it’s not common, then why are there so many articles urging Christians to not do it, including in mainstream publications like WaPo?

NP here, but I’m not concerned with how many people do something in their homes. I am very concerned, however, with WaPo — or anyone — urging people not to take part in a religious celebration. We have religious freedom in this country.

No one is saying you legally can’t do it.

You can do whatever you want — you can put on blackface and have a minstrel show in your home.
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Doesn’t make it right, and people would rightly urge you against it, despite the 1st Amendment allowing for freedom of expression.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder: if any other minority group was saying something was offensive to them, would they be getting this much pushback?

I guess it would depend if the people making that argument also had reading comprehension problems like we have here. The bulk of this thread is invented by one or two people pushing an agenda that lots of Christians have Passover seders when that isn’t true.

If it’s not common, then why are there so many articles urging Christians to not do it, including in mainstream publications like WaPo?

There are 205 million Christians in the US. And a handful of articles saying do not celebrate Passover. Yep. “Lots” of Christians sure are celebrating Passover.

Enough are doing it to generate the articles.

Why not just say, “You’re right that it’s offensive. That’s why I’m not doing it,” rather than constantly arguing with us?

Anyone can write an article about any topic. There doesn’t have to be a critical mass to generate someone to post a story online. You truly are just arguing to argue at this point. You must be the person Jeff spoke to in Website Feedback the other day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder: if any other minority group was saying something was offensive to them, would they be getting this much pushback?

I guess it would depend if the people making that argument also had reading comprehension problems like we have here. The bulk of this thread is invented by one or two people pushing an agenda that lots of Christians have Passover seders when that isn’t true.

If it’s not common, then why are there so many articles urging Christians to not do it, including in mainstream publications like WaPo?

There are 205 million Christians in the US. And a handful of articles saying do not celebrate Passover. Yep. “Lots” of Christians sure are celebrating Passover.

so if it’s no big deal, why are you here? except for to police exactly how you think Jews should think.

Yep, exactly!

Apparently it’s fine to not believe Jews when we tell people something is offensive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder: if any other minority group was saying something was offensive to them, would they be getting this much pushback?

I guess it would depend if the people making that argument also had reading comprehension problems like we have here. The bulk of this thread is invented by one or two people pushing an agenda that lots of Christians have Passover seders when that isn’t true.

If it’s not common, then why are there so many articles urging Christians to not do it, including in mainstream publications like WaPo?

There are 205 million Christians in the US. And a handful of articles saying do not celebrate Passover. Yep. “Lots” of Christians sure are celebrating Passover.

Enough are doing it to generate the articles.

Why not just say, “You’re right that it’s offensive. That’s why I’m not doing it,” rather than constantly arguing with us?

Anyone can write an article about any topic. There doesn’t have to be a critical mass to generate someone to post a story online. You truly are just arguing to argue at this point. You must be the person Jeff spoke to in Website Feedback the other day.

No one here is saying TONS of people are doing it.

We’re saying to the people in this thread who say they don’t think Christian Seders are offensive that yes — indeed they are offensive.

Why do you have such a difficult time understanding that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder: if any other minority group was saying something was offensive to them, would they be getting this much pushback?

I guess it would depend if the people making that argument also had reading comprehension problems like we have here. The bulk of this thread is invented by one or two people pushing an agenda that lots of Christians have Passover seders when that isn’t true.

If it’s not common, then why are there so many articles urging Christians to not do it, including in mainstream publications like WaPo?

There are 205 million Christians in the US. And a handful of articles saying do not celebrate Passover. Yep. “Lots” of Christians sure are celebrating Passover.

Enough are doing it to generate the articles.

Why not just say, “You’re right that it’s offensive. That’s why I’m not doing it,” rather than constantly arguing with us?

Anyone can write an article about any topic. There doesn’t have to be a critical mass to generate someone to post a story online. You truly are just arguing to argue at this point. You must be the person Jeff spoke to in Website Feedback the other day.

why is it so triggering to you when some Jews express that they are offended by a practice some Christians do? ask yourself that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder: if any other minority group was saying something was offensive to them, would they be getting this much pushback?

I guess it would depend if the people making that argument also had reading comprehension problems like we have here. The bulk of this thread is invented by one or two people pushing an agenda that lots of Christians have Passover seders when that isn’t true.

If it’s not common, then why are there so many articles urging Christians to not do it, including in mainstream publications like WaPo?

There are 205 million Christians in the US. And a handful of articles saying do not celebrate Passover. Yep. “Lots” of Christians sure are celebrating Passover.

Enough are doing it to generate the articles.

Why not just say, “You’re right that it’s offensive. That’s why I’m not doing it,” rather than constantly arguing with us?

Anyone can write an article about any topic. There doesn’t have to be a critical mass to generate someone to post a story online. You truly are just arguing to argue at this point. You must be the person Jeff spoke to in Website Feedback the other day.

why is it so triggering to you when some Jews express that they are offended by a practice some Christians do? ask yourself that.

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[Anonymous]

I want St. Patrick's Day back. No wearing o the green for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder: if any other minority group was saying something was offensive to them, would they be getting this much pushback?

I guess it would depend if the people making that argument also had reading comprehension problems like we have here. The bulk of this thread is invented by one or two people pushing an agenda that lots of Christians have Passover seders when that isn’t true.

If it’s not common, then why are there so many articles urging Christians to not do it, including in mainstream publications like WaPo?

There are 205 million Christians in the US. And a handful of articles saying do not celebrate Passover. Yep. “Lots” of Christians sure are celebrating Passover.

so if it’s no big deal, why are you here? except for to police exactly how you think Jews should think.

You keep inventing arguments that no one has written.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want St. Patrick's Day back. No wearing o the green for you.

The fact that you are equating Passover and wearing green on St. Patrick’s Day is awful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want St. Patrick's Day back. No wearing o the green for you.

Pretty sure no observant Jews celebrate St Paddy's day. It's all yours.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I want St. Patrick's Day back. No wearing o the green for you.

Pretty sure no observant Jews celebrate St Paddy's day. It's all yours.

Yup. Same thing when they were saying “no more Easter Bunny for you!”

Yeah, we don’t have anything to do with Easter.

[Anonymous]

OP here. Wow! Stepped away (making kugel) and this exploded.

Some posters seem very defensive -- arguing both that no Christians celebrate Passover (false) and that it is perfectly legal (true, but missing the point0.

Christian seders are an erasure. That's why it is offensive. They appropriate theJjewish seder and turn it into something else.

For example, this blog that recommend having a Christian seder says:

"Explain to your guests that Seder is part of the Passover holiday, one of the most important ancient Jewish festivals, ultimately pointing to the death and resurrection of Christ."

And at the seder? "GRAPE JUICE symbolizes Jesus’ blood shed for us on the cross. Drink it in remembrance of Him."

Umm, HARD NO.

https://lifewaywomen.com/2016/03/10/hospitality-hints-host-a-seder-meal/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Wow! Stepped away (making kugel) and this exploded.

Some posters seem very defensive -- arguing both that no Christians celebrate Passover (false) and that it is perfectly legal (true, but missing the point0.

Christian seders are an erasure. That's why it is offensive. They appropriate theJjewish seder and turn it into something else.

For example, this blog that recommend having a Christian seder says:

"Explain to your guests that Seder is part of the Passover holiday, one of the most important ancient Jewish festivals, ultimately pointing to the death and resurrection of Christ."

And at the seder? "GRAPE JUICE symbolizes Jesus’ blood shed for us on the cross. Drink it in remembrance of Him."

Umm, HARD NO.

https://lifewaywomen.com/2016/03/10/hospitality-hints-host-a-seder-meal/

Wow. That’s really screwed up.