PSA: Please do not host a Christian seder

[Anonymous]

I wonder: if any other minority group was saying something was offensive to them, would they be getting this much pushback?

[Anonymous]

I’m the poster who said reading a book is fine. It is. Having a Seder isn’t.

This was her explanation for what she is doing “And I'm not talking about doing the prayers or anything. I'm talking about reading a children's book about passover, discussing some of the traditions and why it is an important holy day for Jewish people (while reiterating that we are not Jewish and we are not play acting at being Jewish) and then discussing it. While also making a meal with some traditional Passover food since that will help it feel more real for her. “ Glad you can finally agree it’s fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The privilege on display here is sad, but unsurprising.

Newsflash: You can go do whatever you want in your own home and in your own house of worship, too!

Newsflash: it’s not ok to appropriate people’s cultures or religions.

Christianity was founded by Jews, and as adapted and merged them with other cultures. The Hebrew Scriptures are the foundation for the New Testament and are an important part of the Bible.

So Judaism is Christianity Jr. to you. You realize that Jews don’t see it that way? For the umpteenth time, nobody owns Exodus, but Passover is a Jewish rite.

Guess what? The stories in the New Testament of the Christian Bible are a big part of Islam. Jesus is a prophet in the Quran—and not even the most important one! I’m Christian and I can deal with that. You need to find a way to deal with the fact that Judaism and Christianity (and Islam) have a lot of overlap and most of it is in the Torah and old testament.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder: if any other minority group was saying something was offensive to them, would they be getting this much pushback?

I guess it would depend if the people making that argument also had reading comprehension problems like we have here. The bulk of this thread is invented by one or two people pushing an agenda that lots of Christians have Passover seders when that isn’t true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The privilege on display here is sad, but unsurprising.

Newsflash: You can go do whatever you want in your own home and in your own house of worship, too!

Newsflash: it’s not ok to appropriate people’s cultures or religions.

Christianity was founded by Jews, and as adapted and merged them with other cultures. The Hebrew Scriptures are the foundation for the New Testament and are an important part of the Bible.

So Judaism is Christianity Jr. to you. You realize that Jews don’t see it that way? For the umpteenth time, nobody owns Exodus, but Passover is a Jewish rite.

Guess what? The stories in the New Testament of the Christian Bible are a big part of Islam. Jesus is a prophet in the Quran—and not even the most important one! I’m Christian and I can deal with that. You need to find a way to deal with the fact that Judaism and Christianity (and Islam) have a lot of overlap and most of it is in the Torah and old testament.

And you need to accept that Judaism is a distinct religion and you can’t just insert Jesus into our traditions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder: if any other minority group was saying something was offensive to them, would they be getting this much pushback?

I guess it would depend if the people making that argument also had reading comprehension problems like we have here. The bulk of this thread is invented by one or two people pushing an agenda that lots of Christians have Passover seders when that isn’t true.

If it’s not common, then why are there so many articles urging Christians to not do it, including in mainstream publications like WaPo?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The privilege on display here is sad, but unsurprising.

Newsflash: You can go do whatever you want in your own home and in your own house of worship, too!

Newsflash: it’s not ok to appropriate people’s cultures or religions.

Christianity was founded by Jews, and as adapted and merged them with other cultures. The Hebrew Scriptures are the foundation for the New Testament and are an important part of the Bible.

So Judaism is Christianity Jr. to you. You realize that Jews don’t see it that way? For the umpteenth time, nobody owns Exodus, but Passover is a Jewish rite.

Guess what? The stories in the New Testament of the Christian Bible are a big part of Islam. Jesus is a prophet in the Quran—and not even the most important one! I’m Christian and I can deal with that. You need to find a way to deal with the fact that Judaism and Christianity (and Islam) have a lot of overlap and most of it is in the Torah and old testament.

And you need to accept that Judaism is a distinct religion and you can’t just insert Jesus into our traditions.

Why do you keep repeating this when no one has said this? You’re inventing a comeback to a non-existent argument?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder: if any other minority group was saying something was offensive to them, would they be getting this much pushback?

What people do in the privacy of their own homes is their own business. Being offended by that is stupid, period. One’s status as majority/minority has nothing to do with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder: if any other minority group was saying something was offensive to them, would they be getting this much pushback?

I guess it would depend if the people making that argument also had reading comprehension problems like we have here. The bulk of this thread is invented by one or two people pushing an agenda that lots of Christians have Passover seders when that isn’t true.

If it’s not common, then why are there so many articles urging Christians to not do it, including in mainstream publications like WaPo?

There are 205 million Christians in the US. And a handful of articles saying do not celebrate Passover. Yep. “Lots” of Christians sure are celebrating Passover.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The privilege on display here is sad, but unsurprising.

Newsflash: You can go do whatever you want in your own home and in your own house of worship, too!

Newsflash: it’s not ok to appropriate people’s cultures or religions.

Christianity was founded by Jews, and as adapted and merged them with other cultures. The Hebrew Scriptures are the foundation for the New Testament and are an important part of the Bible.

So Judaism is Christianity Jr. to you. You realize that Jews don’t see it that way? For the umpteenth time, nobody owns Exodus, but Passover is a Jewish rite.

Guess what? The stories in the New Testament of the Christian Bible are a big part of Islam. Jesus is a prophet in the Quran—and not even the most important one! I’m Christian and I can deal with that. You need to find a way to deal with the fact that Judaism and Christianity (and Islam) have a lot of overlap and most of it is in the Torah and old testament.

And you need to accept that Judaism is a distinct religion and you can’t just insert Jesus into our traditions.

Why do you keep repeating this when no one has said this? You’re inventing a comeback to a non-existent argument?

A Christian Seder absolutely involves inserting Jesus into Jewish traditions. That’s the entire reason it’s offensive.

You need to read this article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/04/22/adding-jesus-to-a-seder-dinner-not-kosher/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder: if any other minority group was saying something was offensive to them, would they be getting this much pushback?

I guess it would depend if the people making that argument also had reading comprehension problems like we have here. The bulk of this thread is invented by one or two people pushing an agenda that lots of Christians have Passover seders when that isn’t true.

If it’s not common, then why are there so many articles urging Christians to not do it, including in mainstream publications like WaPo?

There are 205 million Christians in the US. And a handful of articles saying do not celebrate Passover. Yep. “Lots” of Christians sure are celebrating Passover.

Enough are doing it to generate the articles.

Why not just say, “You’re right that it’s offensive. That’s why I’m not doing it,” rather than constantly arguing with us?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The privilege on display here is sad, but unsurprising.

Newsflash: You can go do whatever you want in your own home and in your own house of worship, too!

Newsflash: it’s not ok to appropriate people’s cultures or religions.

Christianity was founded by Jews, and as adapted and merged them with other cultures. The Hebrew Scriptures are the foundation for the New Testament and are an important part of the Bible.

So Judaism is Christianity Jr. to you. You realize that Jews don’t see it that way? For the umpteenth time, nobody owns Exodus, but Passover is a Jewish rite.

uhh, no. I don't see Judaism as Christianity Jr. Just like I don't see Christianity as Islam Lite. Yeesh. Some Jews "appropriated" things from Judaism and blended with other things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The privilege on display here is sad, but unsurprising.

Newsflash: You can go do whatever you want in your own home and in your own house of worship, too!

Newsflash: it’s not ok to appropriate people’s cultures or religions.

Christianity was founded by Jews, and as adapted and merged them with other cultures. The Hebrew Scriptures are the foundation for the New Testament and are an important part of the Bible.

So Judaism is Christianity Jr. to you. You realize that Jews don’t see it that way? For the umpteenth time, nobody owns Exodus, but Passover is a Jewish rite.

Guess what? The stories in the New Testament of the Christian Bible are a big part of Islam. Jesus is a prophet in the Quran—and not even the most important one! I’m Christian and I can deal with that. You need to find a way to deal with the fact that Judaism and Christianity (and Islam) have a lot of overlap and most of it is in the Torah and old testament.

And you need to accept that Judaism is a distinct religion and you can’t just insert Jesus into our traditions.

Why do you keep repeating this when no one has said this? You’re inventing a comeback to a non-existent argument?

A Christian Seder absolutely involves inserting Jesus into Jewish traditions. That’s the entire reason it’s offensive.

You need to read this article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/04/22/adding-jesus-to-a-seder-dinner-not-kosher/

The PP never said they were hosting a Christian Seder so why again are you making a comeback to and argument they didn’t make?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The privilege on display here is sad, but unsurprising.

Newsflash: You can go do whatever you want in your own home and in your own house of worship, too!

Newsflash: it’s not ok to appropriate people’s cultures or religions.

Christianity was founded by Jews, and as adapted and merged them with other cultures. The Hebrew Scriptures are the foundation for the New Testament and are an important part of the Bible.

So Judaism is Christianity Jr. to you. You realize that Jews don’t see it that way? For the umpteenth time, nobody owns Exodus, but Passover is a Jewish rite.

uhh, no. I don't see Judaism as Christianity Jr. Just like I don't see Christianity as Islam Lite. Yeesh. Some Jews "appropriated" things from Judaism and blended with other things.

Huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder: if any other minority group was saying something was offensive to them, would they be getting this much pushback?

I guess it would depend if the people making that argument also had reading comprehension problems like we have here. The bulk of this thread is invented by one or two people pushing an agenda that lots of Christians have Passover seders when that isn’t true.

If it’s not common, then why are there so many articles urging Christians to not do it, including in mainstream publications like WaPo?

NP here, but I’m not concerned with how many people do something in their homes. I am very concerned, however, with WaPo — or anyone — urging people not to take part in a religious celebration. We have religious freedom in this country.