Should grandma go to birthday party or visit with newborn?

Anonymous
Newborn. Not even close.
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Anonymous wrote:OP here - for those asking for an update. Grandma went to see the newborn. Nothing was said by birthday child’s family. No plans to reschedule the visit from either end. Sister with the baby has texted multiple pictures of the baby and updates to everyone after icing everyone out for months. People responded with congratulations.


Maybe there is hope for this family after all.


I don’t understand how you’re reading this as a hopeful update. Mom of birthday child is so upset that she posted on DCUM. She also thinks grandma is wrong to have not rescheduled the visit with birthday child already, and she’s mad at the mom of the newborn for texting baby pictures after being icy in the previous months. This family is doomed.


I agree it’s clear OP is birthday mom hoping for validation, but where Grandma has a sensible head, there is always room for hope.

OP’s language about the texting is of course silly, and I suspect the rest of the family is rolling their eyes at birthday mom quietly, but there is hope when Grandma is sensible.


Everyone is rolling their eyes at the sister who iced them out. And then expects a thaw on her terms. There she goes again.

This thread is fascinating because it helps me understand so many comments on this forum. Lots of you condone manipulative behavior. Maybe you do it yourself.


At this point, I don’t think I believe birthday mom’s narrative about the estrangement. It seems pretty clear birthday mom is the drama queen.

Having a baby three weeks early and wanting your mom is not “manipulation” to any normal person.



# weeks is not early. She had a term baby and the baby and mom are healthy. And while the daughter had no control over when she gave birth. Insisting that the only day mom could visit the baby be the same day as the planned other grandchil's party especially after other recent manipulative behavior is in fact manipulation. Normal people as you say can see that. You can't because you are either a manipulator or a victim of someone ele's manipulation on a regular basis.
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Anonymous wrote:OP here - for those asking for an update. Grandma went to see the newborn. Nothing was said by birthday child’s family. No plans to reschedule the visit from either end. Sister with the baby has texted multiple pictures of the baby and updates to everyone after icing everyone out for months. People responded with congratulations.


Maybe there is hope for this family after all.


I don’t understand how you’re reading this as a hopeful update. Mom of birthday child is so upset that she posted on DCUM. She also thinks grandma is wrong to have not rescheduled the visit with birthday child already, and she’s mad at the mom of the newborn for texting baby pictures after being icy in the previous months. This family is doomed.


I agree it’s clear OP is birthday mom hoping for validation, but where Grandma has a sensible head, there is always room for hope.

OP’s language about the texting is of course silly, and I suspect the rest of the family is rolling their eyes at birthday mom quietly, but there is hope when Grandma is sensible.


Everyone is rolling their eyes at the sister who iced them out. And then expects a thaw on her terms. There she goes again.

This thread is fascinating because it helps me understand so many comments on this forum. Lots of you condone manipulative behavior. Maybe you do it yourself.


At this point, I don’t think I believe birthday mom’s narrative about the estrangement. It seems pretty clear birthday mom is the drama queen.

Having a baby three weeks early and wanting your mom is not “manipulation” to any normal person.



# weeks is not early. She had a term baby and the baby and mom are healthy. And while the daughter had no control over when she gave birth. Insisting that the only day mom could visit the baby be the same day as the planned other grandchil's party especially after other recent manipulative behavior is in fact manipulation. Normal people as you say can see that. You can't because you are either a manipulator or a victim of someone ele's manipulation on a regular basis.


Yikes. 😳😳😳

Hoo-boy. We’ve got a live one.
Anonymous
The way the OP states the relationship is strained between the grandma and the birth-mom is entirely unreliable, unless the grandmother is writing this, which it seems clear she is not.

Newborn visit is 100% the most sane choice here.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP here - for those asking for an update. Grandma went to see the newborn. Nothing was said by birthday child’s family. No plans to reschedule the visit from either end. Sister with the baby has texted multiple pictures of the baby and updates to everyone after icing everyone out for months. People responded with congratulations.


Maybe there is hope for this family after all.


I don’t understand how you’re reading this as a hopeful update. Mom of birthday child is so upset that she posted on DCUM. She also thinks grandma is wrong to have not rescheduled the visit with birthday child already, and she’s mad at the mom of the newborn for texting baby pictures after being icy in the previous months. This family is doomed.


You are correct. But this family has been doomed for a long time it started with grandma's favoritism that created a narcissistic and manipulative daughter. Birthday child's family is best to go no contact.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The way the OP states the relationship is strained between the grandma and the birth-mom is entirely unreliable, unless the grandmother is writing this, which it seems clear she is not.

Newborn visit is 100% the most sane choice here.


No. And it's interesting that the people who repeat this are in this thread also the most abusive in their language.
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Anonymous wrote:OP here - for those asking for an update. Grandma went to see the newborn. Nothing was said by birthday child’s family. No plans to reschedule the visit from either end. Sister with the baby has texted multiple pictures of the baby and updates to everyone after icing everyone out for months. People responded with congratulations.


Maybe there is hope for this family after all.


I don’t understand how you’re reading this as a hopeful update. Mom of birthday child is so upset that she posted on DCUM. She also thinks grandma is wrong to have not rescheduled the visit with birthday child already, and she’s mad at the mom of the newborn for texting baby pictures after being icy in the previous months. This family is doomed.


I agree it’s clear OP is birthday mom hoping for validation, but where Grandma has a sensible head, there is always room for hope.

OP’s language about the texting is of course silly, and I suspect the rest of the family is rolling their eyes at birthday mom quietly, but there is hope when Grandma is sensible.


Shall I direct you to the Academy of Obstetrics for what constitutes a preterm birth?

Everyone is rolling their eyes at the sister who iced them out. And then expects a thaw on her terms. There she goes again.

This thread is fascinating because it helps me understand so many comments on this forum. Lots of you condone manipulative behavior. Maybe you do it yourself.


At this point, I don’t think I believe birthday mom’s narrative about the estrangement. It seems pretty clear birthday mom is the drama queen.

Having a baby three weeks early and wanting your mom is not “manipulation” to any normal person.



# weeks is not early. She had a term baby and the baby and mom are healthy. And while the daughter had no control over when she gave birth. Insisting that the only day mom could visit the baby be the same day as the planned other grandchil's party especially after other recent manipulative behavior is in fact manipulation. Normal people as you say can see that. You can't because you are either a manipulator or a victim of someone ele's manipulation on a regular basis.


Yikes. 😳😳😳

Hoo-boy. We’ve got a live one.
Anonymous
OP, I'm sorry. But this is your sign to let your mom and sister go. Now their drama is impacting your child and your child does not deserve to grow up thinking they are 2nd place, like you did. Cut them off now while they are young before any real damage is done.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The way the OP states the relationship is strained between the grandma and the birth-mom is entirely unreliable, unless the grandmother is writing this, which it seems clear she is not.

Newborn visit is 100% the most sane choice here.


Agreed
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm sorry. But this is your sign to let your mom and sister go. Now their drama is impacting your child and your child does not deserve to grow up thinking they are 2nd place, like you did. Cut them off now while they are young before any real damage is done.


Whaaaa this is such an over the top reaction
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here - for those asking for an update. Grandma went to see the newborn. Nothing was said by birthday child’s family. No plans to reschedule the visit from either end. Sister with the baby has texted multiple pictures of the baby and updates to everyone after icing everyone out for months. People responded with congratulations.


Maybe there is hope for this family after all.


I don’t understand how you’re reading this as a hopeful update. Mom of birthday child is so upset that she posted on DCUM. She also thinks grandma is wrong to have not rescheduled the visit with birthday child already, and she’s mad at the mom of the newborn for texting baby pictures after being icy in the previous months. This family is doomed.


I agree it’s clear OP is birthday mom hoping for validation, but where Grandma has a sensible head, there is always room for hope.

OP’s language about the texting is of course silly, and I suspect the rest of the family is rolling their eyes at birthday mom quietly, but there is hope when Grandma is sensible.


Everyone is rolling their eyes at the sister who iced them out. And then expects a thaw on her terms. There she goes again.

This thread is fascinating because it helps me understand so many comments on this forum. Lots of you condone manipulative behavior. Maybe you do it yourself.


At this point, I don’t think I believe birthday mom’s narrative about the estrangement. It seems pretty clear birthday mom is the drama queen.

Having a baby three weeks early and wanting your mom is not “manipulation” to any normal person.



# weeks is not early. She had a term baby and the baby and mom are healthy. And while the daughter had no control over when she gave birth. Insisting that the only day mom could visit the baby be the same day as the planned other grandchil's party especially after other recent manipulative behavior is in fact manipulation. Normal people as you say can see that. You can't because you are either a manipulator or a victim of someone ele's manipulation on a regular basis.


The bolded - exactly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm sorry. But this is your sign to let your mom and sister go. Now their drama is impacting your child and your child does not deserve to grow up thinking they are 2nd place, like you did. Cut them off now while they are young before any real damage is done.


This is so absurd!!! Cutting off because your mom visited your sister who just gave birth early?! Dysfunction to a whole new level.

Ps we don’t know that OP is birthday child mom. I’m wondering if she is just a family friend.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here - for those asking for an update. Grandma went to see the newborn. Nothing was said by birthday child’s family. No plans to reschedule the visit from either end. Sister with the baby has texted multiple pictures of the baby and updates to everyone after icing everyone out for months. People responded with congratulations.


Maybe there is hope for this family after all.


I don’t understand how you’re reading this as a hopeful update. Mom of birthday child is so upset that she posted on DCUM. She also thinks grandma is wrong to have not rescheduled the visit with birthday child already, and she’s mad at the mom of the newborn for texting baby pictures after being icy in the previous months. This family is doomed.


I agree it’s clear OP is birthday mom hoping for validation, but where Grandma has a sensible head, there is always room for hope.

OP’s language about the texting is of course silly, and I suspect the rest of the family is rolling their eyes at birthday mom quietly, but there is hope when Grandma is sensible.


Everyone is rolling their eyes at the sister who iced them out. And then expects a thaw on her terms. There she goes again.

This thread is fascinating because it helps me understand so many comments on this forum. Lots of you condone manipulative behavior. Maybe you do it yourself.


At this point, I don’t think I believe birthday mom’s narrative about the estrangement. It seems pretty clear birthday mom is the drama queen.

Having a baby three weeks early and wanting your mom is not “manipulation” to any normal person.



# weeks is not early. She had a term baby and the baby and mom are healthy. And while the daughter had no control over when she gave birth. Insisting that the only day mom could visit the baby be the same day as the planned other grandchil's party especially after other recent manipulative behavior is in fact manipulation. Normal people as you say can see that. You can't because you are either a manipulator or a victim of someone ele's manipulation on a regular basis.


The bolded - exactly.


Glad grandma did the right thing and ignored your advice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm sorry. But this is your sign to let your mom and sister go. Now their drama is impacting your child and your child does not deserve to grow up thinking they are 2nd place, like you did. Cut them off now while they are young before any real damage is done.


OP here - actually I agree.

I did NOT put a lot of background here because I wanted input on whether my reaction to this one event was reasonable. Seems as though if taken in isolation, my feelings might be a bit of an overreaction to this ONE instance.

But something similar happens EVERY time there’s an important event, and I’m over it. I think it’s best for everyone if I drop the rope.

Previously another sister (older sister) scheduled a random event for her child ON THE DAY of my other kid’s birthday. She invited the entire family to visit her out of the country for that event, knowing we couldn’t go because we had a medically fragile newborn at the time. She could have picked ANY other day of the year but said this was the only one that worked all summer.

Last year on my kid’s birthday the new mom in this story was invited, but her family got sick with fevers so we asked them not to come because as stated, we have a medically fragile young child. They didn’t talk to us for a while and when they finally did they made sure to mention repeatedly that their kid cried and was disappointed she couldn’t come.

Meanwhile, NEVER any concern or inquiry from either of the sisters about my kid who has multiple medical issues and goes to dozens of specialists a year. NEVER - they literally could care less.

We send gifts for their kids’ birthdays and for holidays each year (from lists that they send us), always accompanied by “no pressure” from them when they share the list (completely unsolicited). They don’t acknowledge receipt of the gifts until weeks have passed since delivery and we ask them if they actually received the gifts. Have never gotten anything from them in return.

At various events/holidays, one of the sisters usually argues with grandma and either storms out dramatically or the entire holiday revolves around placating them. This past holiday there was a blowup between the sister who gave birth and the grandma while we were out of the house - nobody would tell us why, grandma claimed she didn’t know (lie) and other sister wouldn’t discuss it but sulked and snapped at everyone the rest of the visit. The younger sister dramatically packed up her family and departed.

Other times the older sister demands that people drive her places even though she’s an adult with a driver’s license and had a car parked in the driveway. These demands always come at inopportune times when someone else would have to stop what they’re doing and take her (my husband, or one of her parents).

Anyways, not to say that any of this changes the facts of the current situation that I outlined in my OP, but it just reinforces that I have very little patience to deal even with somewhat reasonable requests form them. I’m over it and will be better off focusing on my family and doing a slow fade. My spouse and I agreed that we will not be joining them for any future events or inviting them to our events.

Thanks everyone - don’t know how much more I’ll be checking this thread, but I appreciate everyone who contributed in a constructive manner, it’s been illuminating.

Anonymous
OP, get over yourself. A newborn and mom who just gave birth are far more important in this case, though I don’t doubt your sister is difficult and has pulled stunts before.

But this was not the case to make on DCUM, because in this case, you are not the priority. At all.

And sockpuppeting did not help your case. You just sound entitled and crazy with whack priorities, even if that’s not really true.
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