Help me understand Republican women in their 30s and 40s

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how anyone can call them a feminist and vote for Trump. Because a feminist ought to care for all women’s rights, not just their own. We have a terrible maternal death rate, that is exponentially worse for Black women. Women have lost access to safe health care and voting rights.

I also feel sad for the one trans woman we know who is at least 6’2 or 6’3”. She has an amazing family and is a mother of teens and would never hurt anyone. That she has to deal with this level of hate is incredible.

Democrats always think they own feminism. Nope. Look at the number of disrespectful comments here from liberals insisting GOP women are misled or following their husbands.

- Feminist Republican

Sorry. You’re actively supporting the party that wants to erase women’s rights entirely. You are not a feminist.

And you are supporting the party that wants to erase women entirely. You are not a feminist either.

+100. One party wants to take away my right to decide my fate if I get pregnant. The other party wants to erase me entirely so men can steal my identity. Two awful choices, but erasing me in every aspect of life is worse. Dems can get bent.

This is nonsense. Acknowledging trans people isn’t “erasing” women.

It depends. If we are allowed to acknowledge that trans people have a biological sex that is different from the sex they would prefer, that isn't in conflict. If we are required to say, in polite society, that trans women are women, with no distinction at all from biological women, that is an issue for many people. And of course, if it is taken a step further and claimed that suggesting that sex is an immutable characteristic is criminal hate speech, that is a serious step toward the suppression of free speech, science, and religion in favor of state dogma.

The Democratic Party claims none of the bolded. Referring to trans women as women doesn’t mean you can’t acknowledge that they’re trans. It just means you shouldn’t call them men. I’m sure you understand the difference. And there is no Democratic policy in place to “criminalize” speech about sex as a biological characteristic. Some people have a gender that is different from their sex. That’s all.

Stop gaslighting. Even on this site, we are warned not to use the "transphobic" term "biological women." You can say there is no "Democratic policy" to criminalize free speech, which is incorrect (every senate Democrat supported the Democracy for All bill that sought to curtail free speech). But politics is downstream from culture. Meaning that first they get everyone warm to an idea, and then they make it law. Ask yourself, if you could ban speech that would criminalize acknowledging that trans women aren't biological women, would you?

Bingo. The liar you’re talking to has all the cult talking points down, but women aren’t as stupid as the gender cultists think.

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Trump’s stance of “grab ‘em by the p:$$/“ works for them somehow!

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how anyone can call them a feminist and vote for Trump. Because a feminist ought to care for all women’s rights, not just their own. We have a terrible maternal death rate, that is exponentially worse for Black women. Women have lost access to safe health care and voting rights.

I also feel sad for the one trans woman we know who is at least 6’2 or 6’3”. She has an amazing family and is a mother of teens and would never hurt anyone. That she has to deal with this level of hate is incredible.

Democrats always think they own feminism. Nope. Look at the number of disrespectful comments here from liberals insisting GOP women are misled or following their husbands.

- Feminist Republican

Sorry. You’re actively supporting the party that wants to erase women’s rights entirely. You are not a feminist.

And you are supporting the party that wants to erase women entirely. You are not a feminist either.

+100. One party wants to take away my right to decide my fate if I get pregnant. The other party wants to erase me entirely so men can steal my identity. Two awful choices, but erasing me in every aspect of life is worse. Dems can get bent.

This is nonsense. Acknowledging trans people isn’t “erasing” women.

You should definitely keep telling voters that you want to attract to your party that their worries and concerns about their own erasure are “nonsense.” That’s certainly a winning strategy for you! 👍

I don’t work for the Biden campaign. So are you going to explain how you’re being erased? Is the eraser in the room with us now?

I’m female. I have faced sexual violence because of my body, like millions of women throughout history.

Democrats now demand that I pretend that violence against females doesn’t exist, and that I prioritize the feelings of men over my physical safety. They tell me that my identity as a woman, including all that I have endured by virtue of being a woman, is open for colonization by men, and in fact men are better at being women than women born female.

That’s erasure. And you cannot stomp your feet and tell me that it is not happening.

100%. Vote these POSes out.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. This thread indicates to me that the only issue that animates republican feminism is protecting women from transgender women on the field and in dressing rooms and bathrooms.

Are there any other women’s issues that concern republican feminists?

Yes. Republican women are also people. So issues that affect people are of high concern to republican voters. We listed them early in the thread but people don't want to talk about them-- crime, the border, government spending, foreign policy, the economy, etc.

Feminism was created because men were the standard bearer, so issues concerning the entire population aren’t feminist issues. Protecting women from abusive exes is a feminist take on crime.

That’s why people are asking specifically about reasons feminists should vote GOP.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump’s stance of “grab ‘em by the p:$$/“ works for them somehow!

Worked for Bill Clinton too. It's a wash.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how anyone can call them a feminist and vote for Trump. Because a feminist ought to care for all women’s rights, not just their own. We have a terrible maternal death rate, that is exponentially worse for Black women. Women have lost access to safe health care and voting rights.

I also feel sad for the one trans woman we know who is at least 6’2 or 6’3”. She has an amazing family and is a mother of teens and would never hurt anyone. That she has to deal with this level of hate is incredible.

Democrats always think they own feminism. Nope. Look at the number of disrespectful comments here from liberals insisting GOP women are misled or following their husbands.

- Feminist Republican

Sorry. You’re actively supporting the party that wants to erase women’s rights entirely. You are not a feminist.

And you are supporting the party that wants to erase women entirely. You are not a feminist either.

+100. One party wants to take away my right to decide my fate if I get pregnant. The other party wants to erase me entirely so men can steal my identity. Two awful choices, but erasing me in every aspect of life is worse. Dems can get bent.

This is nonsense. Acknowledging trans people isn’t “erasing” women.

It depends. If we are allowed to acknowledge that trans people have a biological sex that is different from the sex they would prefer, that isn't in conflict. If we are required to say, in polite society, that trans women are women, with no distinction at all from biological women, that is an issue for many people. And of course, if it is taken a step further and claimed that suggesting that sex is an immutable characteristic is criminal hate speech, that is a serious step toward the suppression of free speech, science, and religion in favor of state dogma.

The Democratic Party claims none of the bolded. Referring to trans women as women doesn’t mean you can’t acknowledge that they’re trans. It just means you shouldn’t call them men. I’m sure you understand the difference. And there is no Democratic policy in place to “criminalize” speech about sex as a biological characteristic. Some people have a gender that is different from their sex. That’s all.

NP. I will always refer to a man as a man and a woman as a woman. That’s a statement of fact. However the man and woman in question feel about that is between them and
their therapists. You will not force us to lie and then call it kindness.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how anyone can call them a feminist and vote for Trump. Because a feminist ought to care for all women’s rights, not just their own. We have a terrible maternal death rate, that is exponentially worse for Black women. Women have lost access to safe health care and voting rights.

I also feel sad for the one trans woman we know who is at least 6’2 or 6’3”. She has an amazing family and is a mother of teens and would never hurt anyone. That she has to deal with this level of hate is incredible.

Democrats always think they own feminism. Nope. Look at the number of disrespectful comments here from liberals insisting GOP women are misled or following their husbands.

- Feminist Republican

Sorry. You’re actively supporting the party that wants to erase women’s rights entirely. You are not a feminist.

And you are supporting the party that wants to erase women entirely. You are not a feminist either.

+100. One party wants to take away my right to decide my fate if I get pregnant. The other party wants to erase me entirely so men can steal my identity. Two awful choices, but erasing me in every aspect of life is worse. Dems can get bent.

This is nonsense. Acknowledging trans people isn’t “erasing” women.

You should definitely keep telling voters that you want to attract to your party that their worries and concerns about their own erasure are “nonsense.” That’s certainly a winning strategy for you! 👍

I don’t work for the Biden campaign. So are you going to explain how you’re being erased? Is the eraser in the room with us now?

Democrats now demand that I pretend that violence against females doesn’t exist, and that I prioritize the feelings of men over my physical safety. They tell me that my identity as a woman, including all that I have endured by virtue of being a woman, is open for colonization by men, and in fact men are better at being women than women born female.

No, they don’t. If this is about the idea that a man would chop of his genitalia just to perve on you in the bathroom, I’m sorry, that’s not happening.

Except that degenerates like you dont require men to do anything except declare they are women in order to access women’s most private and vulnerable places. But you already knew that, you liar.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how anyone can call them a feminist and vote for Trump. Because a feminist ought to care for all women’s rights, not just their own. We have a terrible maternal death rate, that is exponentially worse for Black women. Women have lost access to safe health care and voting rights.

I also feel sad for the one trans woman we know who is at least 6’2 or 6’3”. She has an amazing family and is a mother of teens and would never hurt anyone. That she has to deal with this level of hate is incredible.

Democrats always think they own feminism. Nope. Look at the number of disrespectful comments here from liberals insisting GOP women are misled or following their husbands.

- Feminist Republican

Sorry. You’re actively supporting the party that wants to erase women’s rights entirely. You are not a feminist.

And you are supporting the party that wants to erase women entirely. You are not a feminist either.

It sounds like this right here is the crux. I don’t see trans women as a threat to my womanhood. I don’t see gay marriage as a threat to my marriage. I do see women trying to erase the equal rights and legal protections of women as a threat to my livelihood and those of my mother, sisters, daughters, friends, and colleagues.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. This thread indicates to me that the only issue that animates republican feminism is protecting women from transgender women on the field and in dressing rooms and bathrooms.

Are there any other women’s issues that concern republican feminists?

Yes. Republican women are also people. So issues that affect people are of high concern to republican voters. We listed them early in the thread but people don't want to talk about them-- crime, the border, government spending, foreign policy, the economy, etc.

Feminism was created because men were the standard bearer, so issues concerning the entire population aren’t feminist issues. Protecting women from abusive exes is a feminist take on crime.

That’s why people are asking specifically about reasons feminists should vote GOP.

I reject this interpretation. You asked if feminist Republicans care about anything other than trans. Now you're saying, oh, no, Republican women can only care about the issues designated as being of concern to women by Democrats. Your Overton window is dirty, lady.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how anyone can call them a feminist and vote for Trump. Because a feminist ought to care for all women’s rights, not just their own. We have a terrible maternal death rate, that is exponentially worse for Black women. Women have lost access to safe health care and voting rights.

I also feel sad for the one trans woman we know who is at least 6’2 or 6’3”. She has an amazing family and is a mother of teens and would never hurt anyone. That she has to deal with this level of hate is incredible.

Democrats always think they own feminism. Nope. Look at the number of disrespectful comments here from liberals insisting GOP women are misled or following their husbands.

- Feminist Republican

Sorry. You’re actively supporting the party that wants to erase women’s rights entirely. You are not a feminist.

And you are supporting the party that wants to erase women entirely. You are not a feminist either.

It sounds like this right here is the crux. I don’t see trans women as a threat to my womanhood. I don’t see gay marriage as a threat to my marriage. I do see women trying to erase the equal rights and legal protections of women as a threat to my livelihood and those of my mother, sisters, daughters, friends, and colleagues.

Well done. Enjoy defending male transvestites’ rights. The rest of us will handle this feminism thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how anyone can call them a feminist and vote for Trump. Because a feminist ought to care for all women’s rights, not just their own. We have a terrible maternal death rate, that is exponentially worse for Black women. Women have lost access to safe health care and voting rights.

I also feel sad for the one trans woman we know who is at least 6’2 or 6’3”. She has an amazing family and is a mother of teens and would never hurt anyone. That she has to deal with this level of hate is incredible.

Democrats always think they own feminism. Nope. Look at the number of disrespectful comments here from liberals insisting GOP women are misled or following their husbands.

- Feminist Republican

Sorry. You’re actively supporting the party that wants to erase women’s rights entirely. You are not a feminist.

And you are supporting the party that wants to erase women entirely. You are not a feminist either.

+100. One party wants to take away my right to decide my fate if I get pregnant. The other party wants to erase me entirely so men can steal my identity. Two awful choices, but erasing me in every aspect of life is worse. Dems can get bent.

This is nonsense. Acknowledging trans people isn’t “erasing” women.

You should definitely keep telling voters that you want to attract to your party that their worries and concerns about their own erasure are “nonsense.” That’s certainly a winning strategy for you! 👍

I don’t work for the Biden campaign. So are you going to explain how you’re being erased? Is the eraser in the room with us now?

I’m female. I have faced sexual violence because of my body, like millions of women throughout history.

Democrats now demand that I pretend that violence against females doesn’t exist, and that I prioritize the feelings of men over my physical safety. They tell me that my identity as a woman, including all that I have endured by virtue of being a woman, is open for colonization by men, and in fact men are better at being women than women born female.

That’s erasure. And you cannot stomp your feet and tell me that it is not happening.

Where did you ever get that from?

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Anonymous wrote:Thank for taking the time to write all of this. I really appreciate you putting this into words. I respect all people. Most of us are trying to thrive and struggle together.

It’s not a one person loses or another person wins scenario, but it feels that way sometimes when we have limited attention and resources. And I get shut down when I say “what about me?”

I feel like traditional feminism is not popular. There is nothing wrong w JK Rawling’s positions . She was abused, she was divorced, she also struggled in this unfair, anti women world. She was a single mom. She earned a right to her opinion. Why did everyone jump all over her?

Everyone did not jump all over her. Some disagreed and some agreed.

She got and still gets a nearly endless stream of graphic rape and death threats from trans activists.

Ironically that response really just shows that she’s right to worry about violence against women and the importance of the preservation of single-sex spaces.

Abuse on anonymous chat forums is cheap and cowardly and scary. Why do so many women and men that are sexually assaulted never report?

Ugly behavior comes out when you don't have to reveal your identity. Why do racist thugs often wear hoods when the strut around with their torches? What's wrong folks...why can't we see who you are?

How often do you see racist thugs holding torches?

Why do people churn out their ugly abuse anonymously? It almost seems as if they think their might be wrong with their behavior?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how anyone can call them a feminist and vote for Trump. Because a feminist ought to care for all women’s rights, not just their own. We have a terrible maternal death rate, that is exponentially worse for Black women. Women have lost access to safe health care and voting rights.

I also feel sad for the one trans woman we know who is at least 6’2 or 6’3”. She has an amazing family and is a mother of teens and would never hurt anyone. That she has to deal with this level of hate is incredible.

Democrats always think they own feminism. Nope. Look at the number of disrespectful comments here from liberals insisting GOP women are misled or following their husbands.

- Feminist Republican

Sorry. You’re actively supporting the party that wants to erase women’s rights entirely. You are not a feminist.

And you are supporting the party that wants to erase women entirely. You are not a feminist either.

+100. One party wants to take away my right to decide my fate if I get pregnant. The other party wants to erase me entirely so men can steal my identity. Two awful choices, but erasing me in every aspect of life is worse. Dems can get bent.

This is nonsense. Acknowledging trans people isn’t “erasing” women.

It depends. If we are allowed to acknowledge that trans people have a biological sex that is different from the sex they would prefer, that isn't in conflict. If we are required to say, in polite society, that trans women are women, with no distinction at all from biological women, that is an issue for many people. And of course, if it is taken a step further and claimed that suggesting that sex is an immutable characteristic is criminal hate speech, that is a serious step toward the suppression of free speech, science, and religion in favor of state dogma.

The Democratic Party claims none of the bolded. Referring to trans women as women doesn’t mean you can’t acknowledge that they’re trans. It just means you shouldn’t call them men. I’m sure you understand the difference. And there is no Democratic policy in place to “criminalize” speech about sex as a biological characteristic. Some people have a gender that is different from their sex. That’s all.

Trans women are men (aka adult human males)

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how anyone can call them a feminist and vote for Trump. Because a feminist ought to care for all women’s rights, not just their own. We have a terrible maternal death rate, that is exponentially worse for Black women. Women have lost access to safe health care and voting rights.

I also feel sad for the one trans woman we know who is at least 6’2 or 6’3”. She has an amazing family and is a mother of teens and would never hurt anyone. That she has to deal with this level of hate is incredible.

Democrats always think they own feminism. Nope. Look at the number of disrespectful comments here from liberals insisting GOP women are misled or following their husbands.

- Feminist Republican

Sorry. You’re actively supporting the party that wants to erase women’s rights entirely. You are not a feminist.

And you are supporting the party that wants to erase women entirely. You are not a feminist either.

+100. One party wants to take away my right to decide my fate if I get pregnant. The other party wants to erase me entirely so men can steal my identity. Two awful choices, but erasing me in every aspect of life is worse. Dems can get bent.

This is nonsense. Acknowledging trans people isn’t “erasing” women.

It depends. If we are allowed to acknowledge that trans people have a biological sex that is different from the sex they would prefer, that isn't in conflict. If we are required to say, in polite society, that trans women are women, with no distinction at all from biological women, that is an issue for many people. And of course, if it is taken a step further and claimed that suggesting that sex is an immutable characteristic is criminal hate speech, that is a serious step toward the suppression of free speech, science, and religion in favor of state dogma.

The Democratic Party claims none of the bolded. Referring to trans women as women doesn’t mean you can’t acknowledge that they’re trans. It just means you shouldn’t call them men. I’m sure you understand the difference. And there is no Democratic policy in place to “criminalize” speech about sex as a biological characteristic. Some people have a gender that is different from their sex. That’s all.

Trans women are men (aka adult human males)

You can deny the existence of transgender people but that does not make them not exist.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how anyone can call them a feminist and vote for Trump. Because a feminist ought to care for all women’s rights, not just their own. We have a terrible maternal death rate, that is exponentially worse for Black women. Women have lost access to safe health care and voting rights.

I also feel sad for the one trans woman we know who is at least 6’2 or 6’3”. She has an amazing family and is a mother of teens and would never hurt anyone. That she has to deal with this level of hate is incredible.

Democrats always think they own feminism. Nope. Look at the number of disrespectful comments here from liberals insisting GOP women are misled or following their husbands.

- Feminist Republican

Sorry. You’re actively supporting the party that wants to erase women’s rights entirely. You are not a feminist.

And you are supporting the party that wants to erase women entirely. You are not a feminist either.

+100. One party wants to take away my right to decide my fate if I get pregnant. The other party wants to erase me entirely so men can steal my identity. Two awful choices, but erasing me in every aspect of life is worse. Dems can get bent.

This is nonsense. Acknowledging trans people isn’t “erasing” women.

It depends. If we are allowed to acknowledge that trans people have a biological sex that is different from the sex they would prefer, that isn't in conflict. If we are required to say, in polite society, that trans women are women, with no distinction at all from biological women, that is an issue for many people. And of course, if it is taken a step further and claimed that suggesting that sex is an immutable characteristic is criminal hate speech, that is a serious step toward the suppression of free speech, science, and religion in favor of state dogma.

The Democratic Party claims none of the bolded. Referring to trans women as women doesn’t mean you can’t acknowledge that they’re trans. It just means you shouldn’t call them men. I’m sure you understand the difference. And there is no Democratic policy in place to “criminalize” speech about sex as a biological characteristic. Some people have a gender that is different from their sex. That’s all.

Trans women are men (aka adult human males)

You can deny the existence of transgender people but that does not make them not exist.

Where did PP deny the existence of men who claim to be transgender?