Elon vs U of Richmond

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Anonymous wrote:Really - is Richmond truly THAT MUCH better than Elon? Seems like both are good but not great schools with nice weather where kids have fun and can get decent jobs or get into decedent grad schools if they have good grades. Agree? Disagree?

Disagree. Just look at the test score ranges on the most recent CDS's from both schools. The 25th percentile at Richmond is higher than the 75th percentile at Elon. You're right that kids from both schools (and from schools like Roanoke and Lynchburg, for that matter) can end up in decent jobs and decent grad schools. But it's also a fact that Richmond is a much better school and brings in a much more accomplished student body. Two things can be true at once.

Higher stat kids doesn’t make Richmond a “much better school”

DP but I think it does... not to mention their massive endowment. Richmond is a pretty great school.

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Anonymous wrote:Really - is Richmond truly THAT MUCH better than Elon? Seems like both are good but not great schools with nice weather where kids have fun and can get decent jobs or get into decedent grad schools if they have good grades. Agree? Disagree?

Disagree. Just look at the test score ranges on the most recent CDS's from both schools. The 25th percentile at Richmond is higher than the 75th percentile at Elon. You're right that kids from both schools (and from schools like Roanoke and Lynchburg, for that matter) can end up in decent jobs and decent grad schools. But it's also a fact that Richmond is a much better school and brings in a much more accomplished student body. Two things can be true at once.

Higher stat kids doesn’t make Richmond a “much better school”

DP but I think it does... not to mention their massive endowment. Richmond is a pretty great school.

I would go to Richmond. Even people in the RVA can’t stand the spoiled Richmond kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Really - is Richmond truly THAT MUCH better than Elon? Seems like both are good but not great schools with nice weather where kids have fun and can get decent jobs or get into decedent grad schools if they have good grades. Agree? Disagree?

Disagree. Just look at the test score ranges on the most recent CDS's from both schools. The 25th percentile at Richmond is higher than the 75th percentile at Elon. You're right that kids from both schools (and from schools like Roanoke and Lynchburg, for that matter) can end up in decent jobs and decent grad schools. But it's also a fact that Richmond is a much better school and brings in a much more accomplished student body. Two things can be true at once.

Higher stat kids doesn’t make Richmond a “much better school”

DP but I think it does... not to mention their massive endowment. Richmond is a pretty great school.

Why?

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Anonymous wrote:Really - is Richmond truly THAT MUCH better than Elon? Seems like both are good but not great schools with nice weather where kids have fun and can get decent jobs or get into decedent grad schools if they have good grades. Agree? Disagree?

Disagree. Just look at the test score ranges on the most recent CDS's from both schools. The 25th percentile at Richmond is higher than the 75th percentile at Elon. You're right that kids from both schools (and from schools like Roanoke and Lynchburg, for that matter) can end up in decent jobs and decent grad schools. But it's also a fact that Richmond is a much better school and brings in a much more accomplished student body. Two things can be true at once.

Higher stat kids doesn’t make Richmond a “much better school”

DP but I think it does... not to mention their massive endowment. Richmond is a pretty great school.

Why?

It's wealthy, has high test scores, good student to faculty ratio, low acceptance rate (high standards).

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Anonymous wrote:Really - is Richmond truly THAT MUCH better than Elon? Seems like both are good but not great schools with nice weather where kids have fun and can get decent jobs or get into decedent grad schools if they have good grades. Agree? Disagree?

Disagree. Just look at the test score ranges on the most recent CDS's from both schools. The 25th percentile at Richmond is higher than the 75th percentile at Elon. You're right that kids from both schools (and from schools like Roanoke and Lynchburg, for that matter) can end up in decent jobs and decent grad schools. But it's also a fact that Richmond is a much better school and brings in a much more accomplished student body. Two things can be true at once.

Higher stat kids doesn’t make Richmond a “much better school”

DP but I think it does... not to mention their massive endowment. Richmond is a pretty great school.

Elon is a great school as well. People don’t need to put down school A in order to bolster / boost school B.

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Anonymous wrote:Really - is Richmond truly THAT MUCH better than Elon? Seems like both are good but not great schools with nice weather where kids have fun and can get decent jobs or get into decedent grad schools if they have good grades. Agree? Disagree?

Disagree. Just look at the test score ranges on the most recent CDS's from both schools. The 25th percentile at Richmond is higher than the 75th percentile at Elon. You're right that kids from both schools (and from schools like Roanoke and Lynchburg, for that matter) can end up in decent jobs and decent grad schools. But it's also a fact that Richmond is a much better school and brings in a much more accomplished student body. Two things can be true at once.

Higher stat kids doesn’t make Richmond a “much better school”

DP but I think it does... not to mention their massive endowment. Richmond is a pretty great school.

Elon is a great school as well. People don’t need to put down school A in order to bolster / boost school B.

Great school? I don't know any "great" schools that accept the majority of applicants. What's the point of going to a school whose student body is a close reflection of the general public?

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Richmond and Elon are both good not great schools. Similar kids. Similar outcomes. Elon’s business school as good (perhaps even better) than Richmond. No one cares about acceptance rates or even high school
Stats in the real world. Please get a clue.

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I agree. I’m not sure why the Richmond poster or posters thinks that slightly higher stats and the admissions acceptance rate matters when we are talking jobs in the real world and graduate school. No one cares. I’ve seen Richmond on resumes that have crossed my desk. I’m never impressed.

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Ask the kids a VCU what they think of the Richmond kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Really - is Richmond truly THAT MUCH better than Elon? Seems like both are good but not great schools with nice weather where kids have fun and can get decent jobs or get into decedent grad schools if they have good grades. Agree? Disagree?

Disagree. Just look at the test score ranges on the most recent CDS's from both schools. The 25th percentile at Richmond is higher than the 75th percentile at Elon. You're right that kids from both schools (and from schools like Roanoke and Lynchburg, for that matter) can end up in decent jobs and decent grad schools. But it's also a fact that Richmond is a much better school and brings in a much more accomplished student body. Two things can be true at once.

Higher stat kids doesn’t make Richmond a “much better school”

DP but I think it does... not to mention their massive endowment. Richmond is a pretty great school.

Elon is a great school as well. People don’t need to put down school A in order to bolster / boost school B.

Great school? I don't know any "great" schools that accept the majority of applicants. What's the point of going to a school whose student body is a close reflection of the general public?

Not every kid is going to an Ivy and that’s totally fine. Why is that so offensive to you?

And the bolded comment is bizarre.

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No way would I go to Elon at the moment.

Sorry but no way.

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Anonymous wrote:Really - is Richmond truly THAT MUCH better than Elon? Seems like both are good but not great schools with nice weather where kids have fun and can get decent jobs or get into decedent grad schools if they have good grades. Agree? Disagree?

Disagree. Just look at the test score ranges on the most recent CDS's from both schools. The 25th percentile at Richmond is higher than the 75th percentile at Elon. You're right that kids from both schools (and from schools like Roanoke and Lynchburg, for that matter) can end up in decent jobs and decent grad schools. But it's also a fact that Richmond is a much better school and brings in a much more accomplished student body. Two things can be true at once.

Higher stat kids doesn’t make Richmond a “much better school”

DP but I think it does... not to mention their massive endowment. Richmond is a pretty great school.

Elon is a great school as well. People don’t need to put down school A in order to bolster / boost school B.

Great school? I don't know any "great" schools that accept the majority of applicants. What's the point of going to a school whose student body is a close reflection of the general public?

Not every kid is going to an Ivy and that’s totally fine. Why is that so offensive to you?

And the bolded comment is bizarre.

Did I say "Ivy"? No, I didn't. In point of fact, I made no mention of specific schools and only referenced schools which accept the majority of those who apply. Schools which do not accept the majority of applicants are plentiful and (as I hope you know) comprise not only those schools which are members of the Ivy League (athletic conference).

Why is the bolded comment bizarre? Perhaps you should reflect on why the best and the brightest flock to those institutions whose student bodies are least representative of the general public and why you are unable to understand that logic.

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Richmond is not as good as Richmond boosters make it out to be. For example, consulting firms recruit there, but it's historically been mostly the Big 4 - basically accounting firms that consult as a sideline - and not MBB. They had some placement at McKinsey this past year and put it on the front of a mailing we received, but I don't know it was more than one kid. MBB do recruit at UVA regularly.

Like UVA, it's the kind of school where you really want to be in the business school rather than arts and sciences for recruiting. Ivies, it doesn't matter as much.

Unlike UVA, you don't have to apply into the business school after starting in arts and sciences. This is both a good thing and a bad thing. It's good because you won't get stuck not in the business school. It's bad because it's perceived as less competitive/prestigious.

Notice I've been comparing UR to UVA. Most of my comparisons have been unfavorable, but you can make a fair comparison. The same isn't true of Elon. It's an order of magnitude (or two) below both.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree. I’m not sure why the Richmond poster or posters thinks that slightly higher stats and the admissions acceptance rate matters when we are talking jobs in the real world and graduate school. No one cares. I’ve seen Richmond on resumes that have crossed my desk. I’m never impressed.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree. I’m not sure why the Richmond poster or posters thinks that slightly higher stats and the admissions acceptance rate matters when we are talking jobs in the real world and graduate school. No one cares. I’ve seen Richmond on resumes that have crossed my desk. I’m never impressed.

Below the top n schools, you're not going to get a wow factor for random resume submissions, that's true. By that metric, UR might not have an advantage over Elon. But school caliber matters for OCR. As I wrote above, UR does a little worse than UVA when it comes to prestigious firms recruiting in campus, but only a little worse. It seems to do better than W&M. OCR matters for your first job, which matters for your second job, and so on. How does Elon do? What prestigious firms recruit there? I doubt too many.