SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)

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Anonymous wrote:I sincerely hope that with the push to end Roe that it will also turn on IVF. I mean isn't that what pro-lifers want? Life begins at conception. IVF isn't even really conception right? So no more IVF. Or at the minimum rich white women/couples are forced to carry to term embryos that are deemed not viable for life.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1018662.page

I know it's childish but this works for me, the people making these decisions and the crowd who is (very easily) swaying them all generally start families later in life, it comes with the territory. So let's takeaway their back up plan.

+10000 - you don't get to preach and blabber on about the "sanctity of life" and then throw away embryos.

IOKIYAR.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Remember when people said the left was being over the top and hysterical when Kavanaugh and Barrett were confirmed?

Ya, that was fun.

Ya, privileged DC far left elitists should dictate what health laws the people of Mississippi want for themselves because. . . that's democracy.

No one is forcing women in Mississippi to get an abortion if they don’t want one.

Oh right, just forcing women in Mississippi to inject themselves with a novel vaccine or else be unemployed. Gotcha.

Presumably those women were “forced” to take vaccinations when they went to school or joined the military.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In Mississippi

9 children have died due to COVID

3,194 children died by abortion in 2019

Imagine if not having an abortion was a condition to employment for the sake of saving childrens lives there.

I just don't see the synthesis of the logic used in support of abortion except for being real honest with ourselves and admitting ok, 99% of time, it's a convenience thing and it's not about right to privacy in our bodies, it's not about saving lives. It's convenience. It's birth control. Be honest with yourselves.

While you’re listing statistics, check how many women have died giving birth in Mississippi.

I think more females died being aborted

Just to be clear: You think that two month old fetuses and grown children are of completely equal moral status? If you had a gun to your head and were told you had to either approve the abortion of a six week old fetus, or a 10 year old child, you couldn't make that choice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Remember when people said the left was being over the top and hysterical when Kavanaugh and Barrett were confirmed?

Ya, that was fun.

Ya, privileged DC far left elitists should dictate what health laws the people of Mississippi want for themselves because. . . that's democracy.

No one is forcing women in Mississippi to get an abortion if they don’t want one.

Oh right, just forcing women in Mississippi to inject themselves with a novel vaccine or else be unemployed. Gotcha.

Presumably those women were “forced” to take vaccinations when they went to school or joined the military.

Schools? No, not forced by the fed gov or U.S. Supreme Court. That's a matter of state law decided by MS for themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Remember when people said the left was being over the top and hysterical when Kavanaugh and Barrett were confirmed?

Ya, that was fun.

Ya, privileged DC far left elitists should dictate what health laws the people of Mississippi want for themselves because. . . that's democracy.

No one is forcing women in Mississippi to get an abortion if they don’t want one.

Oh right, just forcing women in Mississippi to inject themselves with a novel vaccine or else be unemployed. Gotcha.

Presumably those women were “forced” to take vaccinations when they went to school or joined the military.

And they can submit to weekly testing.

[Anonymous]

I will never forget the case that changed Ireland's views on abortion and it was less than 10 years ago. I just remember it was a woman who was 17 weeks pregnant. Something came up later in the pregnancy and the only way she was going to survive was to have an abortion. Being Ireland, she couldn't get it. She did die week later, and of course the fetus died too. How many times will the US go through things like that to decide "yeah, perhaps an abortion is needed more in the medical sense than we thought".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Mississippi

9 children have died due to COVID

3,194 children died by abortion in 2019

Imagine if not having an abortion was a condition to employment for the sake of saving childrens lives there.

I just don't see the synthesis of the logic used in support of abortion except for being real honest with ourselves and admitting ok, 99% of time, it's a convenience thing and it's not about right to privacy in our bodies, it's not about saving lives. It's convenience. It's birth control. Be honest with yourselves.

While you’re listing statistics, check how many women have died giving birth in Mississippi.

I think more females died being aborted

Just to be clear: You think that two month old fetuses and grown children are of completely equal moral status? If you had a gun to your head and were told you had to either approve the abortion of a six week old fetus, or a 10 year old child, you couldn't make that choice?

That's a stupid question because that's not what happens. Nobody is getting an abortion with a gun to their head or their kid's head. Very strange to thing to even conjure.

[Anonymous]

Does the GOP believe what it tweets?

What is the radical abortion agenda? That we want them safe and legal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Mississippi

9 children have died due to COVID

3,194 children died by abortion in 2019

Imagine if not having an abortion was a condition to employment for the sake of saving childrens lives there.

I just don't see the synthesis of the logic used in support of abortion except for being real honest with ourselves and admitting ok, 99% of time, it's a convenience thing and it's not about right to privacy in our bodies, it's not about saving lives. It's convenience. It's birth control. Be honest with yourselves.

While you’re listing statistics, check how many women have died giving birth in Mississippi.

Maybe they could check out how many children in Mississippi live in poverty, without enough food or a safe home?

They won’t though. It’s a fetus fetish that they have, and they’re bent on maximum cruelty to women first, then children. They want a sad, miserable, unhealthy populace.

[Anonymous]

I can’t wait until women start collecting pregnancy and child support for fetuses. Men are never punished or have any responsibilities in this situation. Some really bright female attorneys should start legal cases that have negative repercussions for the men involved in these situations.


Overturning Roe punishes women for pregnancies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Mississippi

9 children have died due to COVID

3,194 children died by abortion in 2019

Imagine if not having an abortion was a condition to employment for the sake of saving childrens lives there.

I just don't see the synthesis of the logic used in support of abortion except for being real honest with ourselves and admitting ok, 99% of time, it's a convenience thing and it's not about right to privacy in our bodies, it's not about saving lives. It's convenience. It's birth control. Be honest with yourselves.

While you’re listing statistics, check how many women have died giving birth in Mississippi.

I think more females died being aborted

Just to be clear: You think that two month old fetuses and grown children are of completely equal moral status? If you had a gun to your head and were told you had to either approve the abortion of a six week old fetus, or a 10 year old child, you couldn't make that choice?

That's a stupid question because that's not what happens. Nobody is getting an abortion with a gun to their head or their kid's head. Very strange to thing to even conjure.

It’s not a stupid conjecture. You forced birthers like to pretend that you care about life when there’s zero evidence that you do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will never forget the case that changed Ireland's views on abortion and it was less than 10 years ago. I just remember it was a woman who was 17 weeks pregnant. Something came up later in the pregnancy and the only way she was going to survive was to have an abortion. Being Ireland, she couldn't get it. She did die week later, and of course the fetus died too. How many times will the US go through things like that to decide "yeah, perhaps an abortion is needed more in the medical sense than we thought".

It’s going to take women being honest about what happened to them. Sadly, that means they’re going to get nothing but judgment and threats. The one woman I know who had an abortion in her second trimester did so because she was going to die of blood loss before her fetus reached viability, but she didn’t talk about her abortion, she just “lost” the baby. I understand why she didn’t want to open herself and her story up to scorn from her Catholic relatives (has there been another religion that has caused as much misery to the world?), but her very, very necessary abortion became a miscarriage in the telling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Mississippi

9 children have died due to COVID

3,194 children died by abortion in 2019

Imagine if not having an abortion was a condition to employment for the sake of saving childrens lives there.

I just don't see the synthesis of the logic used in support of abortion except for being real honest with ourselves and admitting ok, 99% of time, it's a convenience thing and it's not about right to privacy in our bodies, it's not about saving lives. It's convenience. It's birth control. Be honest with yourselves

0 children died from abortion. You cannot abort a child. Nice try but WRONG.

You deny science then. There's no magic when what is inside the uterus comes out of it. It doesn't magically transform into a baby like a sci fi movie. It's not a changling.

The “magic” is when it goes from needing the mother’s body to survive vs. not.

Okay, true it needs the mother to survive for probably at least 24 weeks usually, but it's still a baby growing. Not a tadpole or widget. It's a person.

It’s rights do not supersede that of the woman carrying it. That’s the point, genius bar. Republicans believe women are secondary considerations to the contents of their uterus (or the contents of their Fallopian tubes; remember that ghoul moron Republican who believed the forced birth pseudo science that ectopic pregnancies can be transplanted? They can’t.).

What we’re seeing here is the GOP’s indefensible cruelty to women, their control fetish and their lust for a miserable country. They’re the same goons who would happily take away medical insurance - the abortions past this point are almost exclusively for fetal malformations that a woman has decided she can’t care for. What’s going to happened to the children born whose families can’t care for them? What’s the “beautiful choice” there? Bankrupting families? Divorces? You forced birthers are just in a morally indefensible position. Yours is the point of extreme cruelty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Mississippi

9 children have died due to COVID

3,194 children died by abortion in 2019

Imagine if not having an abortion was a condition to employment for the sake of saving childrens lives there.

I just don't see the synthesis of the logic used in support of abortion except for being real honest with ourselves and admitting ok, 99% of time, it's a convenience thing and it's not about right to privacy in our bodies, it's not about saving lives. It's convenience. It's birth control. Be honest with yourselves.

While you’re listing statistics, check how many women have died giving birth in Mississippi.

I think more females died being aborted

Just to be clear: You think that two month old fetuses and grown children are of completely equal moral status? If you had a gun to your head and were told you had to either approve the abortion of a six week old fetus, or a 10 year old child, you couldn't make that choice?

That's a stupid question because that's not what happens. Nobody is getting an abortion with a gun to their head or their kid's head. Very strange to thing to even conjure.

It's not at all strange. The PP is somehow saying that it's worse for fetuses to be aborted than for living children to die of COVID. I'm trying to tease out what this really means to the people who feel this way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will never forget the case that changed Ireland's views on abortion and it was less than 10 years ago. I just remember it was a woman who was 17 weeks pregnant. Something came up later in the pregnancy and the only way she was going to survive was to have an abortion. Being Ireland, she couldn't get it. She did die week later, and of course the fetus died too. How many times will the US go through things like that to decide "yeah, perhaps an abortion is needed more in the medical sense than we thought".

It’s going to take women being honest about what happened to them. Sadly, that means they’re going to get nothing but judgment and threats. The one woman I know who had an abortion in her second trimester did so because she was going to die of blood loss before her fetus reached viability, but she didn’t talk about her abortion, she just “lost” the baby. I understand why she didn’t want to open herself and her story up to scorn from her Catholic relatives (has there been another religion that has caused as much misery to the world?), but her very, very necessary abortion became a miscarriage in the telling.

You think the death cult is going to mind when women die on their watch? Hardly. It's a feature.