A toddler isn't dependent solely on one person in a parasitic manner - feeding off of the host body directly. |
Which is an equally, if not more, violent, traumatic personal invasion. Pro-birthers are equivalent to rapists. |
Exactly. |
I’m sure they’d quibble, but it’s the same thing. |
I don't know. My mom is a neonatologist (i.e. she's devoted her entire career to treating premature newborns). When talking about maternal health, she refers to fetuses as "highly effective parasites". |
A parasite is an organism of one species that lives in or on an organism of another species and receives nourishment from the host. Parasites are invasive organism that come from an outside or external source. A fetus comes from an inside or internal source (ie fertilized egg) Parasites are generally harmful to the hosts, fetuses may make a pregnant woman experience adverse health effects, but not nearly to the same level that a parasite generally does. A parasite makes direct contact with the host's living tissues. A fetus lives in the placenta, fed by the umbilical cord, both of which are fetal tissue (ie the cells come from the baby). When a parasite invades a host, the host tissue will usually respond by encapsulating the parasite in order to cut it off from other surrounding tissue. In the case of a fetus, the mother’s tissue will create a lining tissue that connects, rather than cuts off contact with other tissues (placenta lining). Parasites usually elicit a surge of antibodies as an immunological response. With the fetus, however, a mother’s trophoblast (the shell of cells surrounding the embryo) will naturally block these antibodies so as not to reject the fetus. This reaction is only found in the embryo-mother relationship. A parasite will generally weaken the cellular reproductive capacity of the host.For a fetus, the effect is the opposite. Parasites generally stay with the host for life, a fetus leaves upon birth. Parasitical relationships are mostly harmful and unnecessary to the host, generally damaging the host in a variety of ways. A newborn (fetus post-birth) is very healthy for the mother, bringing benefits of an emotional, cognitive and chemical nature. The most obvious one, a fetus is a human being in development. It will never become anything other than human. Even a first trimester fetus will have fully developed arms, legs, ears, facial features, sex organs and a functioning heart, as well as sufficient neurological development to feel pain. A parasite is not a human and never will be. |
You’re not really good at metaphors are you? |
PP with the neonatologist mom. I'm starting to think this poster is some kind of NLP model barfing out responses. I've seen a demo of GPT-3 producing this kind of nonsense live. It's impressive from that perspective. |
I’d be uncomfortable if my child’s doctor referred to my child and her patient as a “parasite.” Does your mom call her patients that in front of their parents and her colleagues? I think that’s extremely disturbing. |
My mom's patients are newborns. They are, by definition, not fetuses. |
The day before they are born, they are parasites though. Passing through the birth canal turns a parasite into a human baby. |
Can you refute the facts? |
It so strange that these people exist to me who don’t think a woman should be able to choose her own life and well being over the unborn child her body is literally making. |
They’re misogynists. At their core they literally don’t think women have any value at all. And many of them are women! Can you imagine having internalized those messages such that the contents of one of your organs, a potential, a maybe, is worth more than the walking, talking, thinking actual living person in front of you? That you totally ignore the person for the possibility? |
Until the fetus is fully formed, it’s basically a parasite. It’s a separate organism with its own unique, foreign DNA. It creates a barrier in the womb for protection from so host’s immune system. It cannot exist on its own - relying on its host (or serious medical intervention) for nutrition, oxygen, etc.
In modern, wealthy counties, premature babies have a better chance of survival preterm but that’s not by nature’s design. A mother is a fully-formed person entitled to all of the personal liberty and bodily autonomy of a man. She’s not just a host for the “parasite”. |