SCOTUS: oral arguments for Dobbs v. Jackson (MS abortion case)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When will get the ruling? Doesn’t it take a few months after hearing the arguments or might they release their ruling sooner? I know they’ve had time to review before they actually hear arguments and likely have already made up their minds.

Not until May 2022. Just in time for mid-terms.

[Anonymous]

Damn, the rightwing justices are really ready to trash stare decisis.

It will completely upend the American legal system, law school training, etc.

This is wildly radical and anarchist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When they overturn Roe, which sadly is likely, I hope Planned Parenthood sets up a shuttle service from anti-choice states.

This will happen. And the drivers will be killed just like the freedom riders were in MS in the 60s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Damn, the rightwing justices are really ready to trash stare decisis.

It will completely upend the American legal system, law school training, etc.

This is wildly radical and anarchist.

+1. It also shows how woefully inept these rightwing justices are. No wonder the opinion of the Supreme Court is at its lowest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Damn, the rightwing justices are really ready to trash stare decisis.

It will completely upend the American legal system, law school training, etc.

This is wildly radical and anarchist.

But, but, but conservatives....

[Anonymous]

What are they going to do when, after they have transferred abortion law to the states, MS and TX pass laws criminalizing women for crossing state lines to obtain an abortion from a state where it is legal?
Or, since they are going to overturn the whole privacy law concept of the constitution, what are they going to do when contraceptives are outlawed in certain jurisdictions? We are returning to pre-Griswold days.

[Anonymous]

Roberts keeps going back to the fact that the MS law moves the line from viability to 15 weeks. He's going to throw out the Roe framework and agree that 15 weeks is OK.

They'll essentially overrule Roe, but won't outright say that.

[Anonymous]

Roe died with Casey. They are focusing on viability. That is where this will land again. That will mean the Mississippi law gets struck down but so too will all later term abortion laws. It will land there as it should.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand why this isn't viewed as a first amendment separation of church and state issue. Life begins at conception is a religious-based belief, isn't it? If you don't believe that, then why should the state be able to require you adhere to a religious belief you don't accept?

[Anonymous]

The main point here, as the Justices have said, is that Congress needs to do its job and pass a law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why this isn't viewed as a first amendment separation of church and state issue. Life begins at conception is a religious-based belief, isn't it? If you don't believe that, then why should the state be able to require you adhere to a religious belief you don't accept?

No one is seeking to tie viability to conception. That is hyperbole. Viability begins at about 24 weeks. That is when premies can survive.

[Anonymous]

Thomas is going straight for the argument that contraception is also not a right, nor is same-sex relations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Roe died with Casey. They are focusing on viability. That is where this will land again. That will mean the Mississippi law gets struck down but so too will all later term abortion laws. It will land there as it should.

The issue with this is that pretty much all late-term abortions are related to medical emergencies (stillborn/dead fetus or potential death of mother). Lots of these Republican laws coming from the states do NOT make provisions for the mothers' health.

[Anonymous]

Prelogar and Rickelman are killing it.

But maybe that doesn't matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The main point here, as the Justices have said, is that Congress needs to do its job and pass a law.

No, the point is that the right for a woman to choose to have an abortion (just like her decision to use birth control) is protected by the Constitution.