This is not just one issue. This is about terrorism, Iran, making sure those who come to our country embrace democracy and freedom of religion, having a trustworthy ally in the Middle East and so much more. |
Might be PP’s issue but not most Americans. |
Yup. And Biden can't win the battleground states without the youth vote. It's just a point or two that will determine the victor in those states. Probably can't win Michigan, a blue state now, if Arab-Americans are going to vote for Trump out of spite. As we all know, Trump was absolutely wonderful for Muslims. He loves Muslims so much he banned them from traveling to the US. And moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem was done because of his deep respect and admiration for Palestinians. And Trump is totally not buddies with Netanyahu. And his favorite daughter is for sure not Jewish. Counting on Trump to save the Muslims in Gaza is an awesome plan. Nothing could possibly go wrong. |
You don’t see how vile para 2 is in contrast to para 1 in your response. It’s hilarious. It’s not yet February. How is it not the campaign’s critical job to put REAL daylight between how Biden will push for a ceasefire and how Trump never would? Explain it. You are likely correct that Muslims watching the official response of our country to Gaza might not want to vote for Biden, where Blinken has continued to grease the wheels for unrestricted military aid and no public pressure to cut down on the carnage. You are likely correct that college kids who are being treated as Hamas-loving antisemites for hating this war by Biden’s literal spokeswoman, just might stay home. So the campaign COULD court these voters, who as nasty a shit as you are on all levels, have QUITE reasonable objections to the idea that they owe themselves to vote for Biden even if they have familial, cultural, and moral reasons to reject US participation in this war in this way, at this time. Those of you claiming that it’s “weird” to be vehemently opposed to this war are well beyond bizarre to me. Objecting to the “special relationship” between the US and Israel isn’t weird. It isn’t antisemitism. It’s a legitimate political view, my god. |
| Crooked Joe’s only reliable votes are single white women and LGTBQ. |
DP. Well Israel is not a trusted ally, Israel is behind the terrorist attacks in Iran, Israel is not a democracy, Israel does not allow religious freedoms and ever “terrorists” group in the ME exist because of Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians. Why does the US have any interest in a Jewish State? 98% of the population of the US would be turned away from Isreal. |
Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win). However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time. |
Found the Hamas supporter, I guess. I know, I know, you are fine with Jewish women getting nails driven into their genitals. Also I’m not Jewish before you lash out predictably. |
Spite? When Irish-American voters in Boston and New York made their votes contingent on U.S. support for an Independent Ireland and highly critical of the U.K (a treaty ally, unlike Israel) they weren’t called spiteful. They were called compassionate. And U.S. policy reflected the importance of their votes. So is having family killed abroad impact your vote only “spite” if you’re not white? |
Yours is the hopeful wail of the GOP that won’t win unless they manage to convince enough people to vote third party. Bodily autonomy is going to be THE issue for millions. Trump wouldn’t be any better for Palestine. He’d happily nuke them or drop another MOAB on them. He banned Muslims from entering the US; it’s not like he sees them as people. |
I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us. |
No one thinks that FFS. But you’re crazy and spiteful to behave as if this war isn’t also the most critical issue for some voters in swing states. |
They aren’t voting for Trump out of spite. They are voting for Trump, because they are culturally anti democratic. We going to have to come to terms with it at some point. |
You sound insane and irrational, lashing out at the PP like this. That was uncalled for. Gaza is indeed probably the most important issue for some people. Nothing the PP said implies otherwise. But Gaza is unlikely to be a big domestic vote-mover, based on literally years of voter history. Foreign affairs are almost never a major election driver, unless there are significant US troops committed. Dobbs, on the other hand, has moved votes as recently as last year. The PP is correct that Dobbs may drive young voters to the polls. But Gaza is unlikely to drive a lot of voters to the polls unless there is a significant break with historic precedent. Please be rational. |