Gen Z not voting and handing a win to criminal Trump

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


This is not just one issue. This is about terrorism, Iran, making sure those who come to our country embrace democracy and freedom of religion, having a trustworthy ally in the Middle East and so much more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


This is not just one issue. This is about terrorism, Iran, making sure those who come to our country embrace democracy and freedom of religion, having a trustworthy ally in the Middle East and so much more.


Might be PP’s issue but not most Americans.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It’s disgusting how kids are being blamed by democrats for refusing to keep a failed president in office so he can go on failing our country - and their generation - for another four years.


Our youngest eligible voters are less likely to buy into the "you better vote for this candidate or else the world will end" garbage messaging we hear out of the Trump and Biden campaigns. My gut feeling tells me many of them won't vote or will vote for a 3rd party candidate just because the messaging out of the two major parties is so off putting.



Yup. And Biden can't win the battleground states without the youth vote. It's just a point or two that will determine the victor in those states. Probably can't win Michigan, a blue state now, if Arab-Americans are going to vote for Trump out of spite.

As we all know, Trump was absolutely wonderful for Muslims. He loves Muslims so much he banned them from traveling to the US. And moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem was done because of his deep respect and admiration for Palestinians. And Trump is totally not buddies with Netanyahu. And his favorite daughter is for sure not Jewish. Counting on Trump to save the Muslims in Gaza is an awesome plan. Nothing could possibly go wrong.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s disgusting how kids are being blamed by democrats for refusing to keep a failed president in office so he can go on failing our country - and their generation - for another four years.


Our youngest eligible voters are less likely to buy into the "you better vote for this candidate or else the world will end" garbage messaging we hear out of the Trump and Biden campaigns. My gut feeling tells me many of them won't vote or will vote for a 3rd party candidate just because the messaging out of the two major parties is so off putting.



Yup. And Biden can't win the battleground states without the youth vote. It's just a point or two that will determine the victor in those states. Probably can't win Michigan, a blue state now, if Arab-Americans are going to vote for Trump out of spite.

As we all know, Trump was absolutely wonderful for Muslims. He loves Muslims so much he banned them from traveling to the US. And moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem was done because of his deep respect and admiration for Palestinians. And Trump is totally not buddies with Netanyahu. And his favorite daughter is for sure not Jewish. Counting on Trump to save the Muslims in Gaza is an awesome plan. Nothing could possibly go wrong.




You don’t see how vile para 2 is in contrast to para 1 in your response. It’s hilarious.

It’s not yet February. How is it not the campaign’s critical job to put REAL daylight between how Biden will push for a ceasefire and how Trump never would? Explain it. You are likely correct that Muslims watching the official response of our country to Gaza might not want to vote for Biden, where Blinken has continued to grease the wheels for unrestricted military aid and no public pressure to cut down on the carnage. You are likely correct that college kids who are being treated as Hamas-loving antisemites for hating this war by Biden’s literal spokeswoman, just might stay home. So the campaign COULD court these voters, who as nasty a shit as you are on all levels, have QUITE reasonable objections to the idea that they owe themselves to vote for Biden even if they have familial, cultural, and moral reasons to reject US participation in this war in this way, at this time.

Those of you claiming that it’s “weird” to be vehemently opposed to this war are well beyond bizarre to me. Objecting to the “special relationship” between the US and Israel isn’t weird. It isn’t antisemitism. It’s a legitimate political view, my god.
Anonymous
Crooked Joe’s only reliable votes are single white women and LGTBQ.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


This is not just one issue. This is about terrorism, Iran, making sure those who come to our country embrace democracy and freedom of religion, having a trustworthy ally in the Middle East and so much more.


DP. Well Israel is not a trusted ally, Israel is behind the terrorist attacks in Iran, Israel is not a democracy, Israel does not allow religious freedoms and ever “terrorists” group in the ME exist because of Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians.

Why does the US have any interest in a Jewish State? 98% of the population of the US would be turned away from Isreal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


This is not just one issue. This is about terrorism, Iran, making sure those who come to our country embrace democracy and freedom of religion, having a trustworthy ally in the Middle East and so much more.


DP. Well Israel is not a trusted ally, Israel is behind the terrorist attacks in Iran, Israel is not a democracy, Israel does not allow religious freedoms and ever “terrorists” group in the ME exist because of Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians.

Why does the US have any interest in a Jewish State? 98% of the population of the US would be turned away from Isreal.


Found the Hamas supporter, I guess. I know, I know, you are fine with Jewish women getting nails driven into their genitals. Also I’m not Jewish before you lash out predictably.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s disgusting how kids are being blamed by democrats for refusing to keep a failed president in office so he can go on failing our country - and their generation - for another four years.


Our youngest eligible voters are less likely to buy into the "you better vote for this candidate or else the world will end" garbage messaging we hear out of the Trump and Biden campaigns. My gut feeling tells me many of them won't vote or will vote for a 3rd party candidate just because the messaging out of the two major parties is so off putting.



Yup. And Biden can't win the battleground states without the youth vote. It's just a point or two that will determine the victor in those states. Probably can't win Michigan, a blue state now, if Arab-Americans are going to vote for Trump out of spite.

As we all know, Trump was absolutely wonderful for Muslims. He loves Muslims so much he banned them from traveling to the US. And moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem was done because of his deep respect and admiration for Palestinians. And Trump is totally not buddies with Netanyahu. And his favorite daughter is for sure not Jewish. Counting on Trump to save the Muslims in Gaza is an awesome plan. Nothing could possibly go wrong.



Spite?

When Irish-American voters in Boston and New York made their votes contingent on U.S. support for an Independent Ireland and highly critical of the U.K (a treaty ally, unlike Israel) they weren’t called spiteful. They were called compassionate. And U.S. policy reflected the importance of their votes.

So is having family killed abroad impact your vote only “spite” if you’re not white?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s disgusting how kids are being blamed by democrats for refusing to keep a failed president in office so he can go on failing our country - and their generation - for another four years.


Our youngest eligible voters are less likely to buy into the "you better vote for this candidate or else the world will end" garbage messaging we hear out of the Trump and Biden campaigns. My gut feeling tells me many of them won't vote or will vote for a 3rd party candidate just because the messaging out of the two major parties is so off putting.

Yours is the hopeful wail of the GOP that won’t win unless they manage to convince enough people to vote third party. Bodily autonomy is going to be THE issue for millions.

Trump wouldn’t be any better for Palestine. He’d happily nuke them or drop another MOAB on them. He banned Muslims from entering the US; it’s not like he sees them as people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time.

I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time.

I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us.


No one thinks that FFS. But you’re crazy and spiteful to behave as if this war isn’t also the most critical issue for some voters in swing states.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s disgusting how kids are being blamed by democrats for refusing to keep a failed president in office so he can go on failing our country - and their generation - for another four years.


Our youngest eligible voters are less likely to buy into the "you better vote for this candidate or else the world will end" garbage messaging we hear out of the Trump and Biden campaigns. My gut feeling tells me many of them won't vote or will vote for a 3rd party candidate just because the messaging out of the two major parties is so off putting.



Yup. And Biden can't win the battleground states without the youth vote. It's just a point or two that will determine the victor in those states. Probably can't win Michigan, a blue state now, if Arab-Americans are going to vote for Trump out of spite.

As we all know, Trump was absolutely wonderful for Muslims. He loves Muslims so much he banned them from traveling to the US. And moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem was done because of his deep respect and admiration for Palestinians. And Trump is totally not buddies with Netanyahu. And his favorite daughter is for sure not Jewish. Counting on Trump to save the Muslims in Gaza is an awesome plan. Nothing could possibly go wrong.



They aren’t voting for Trump out of spite.
They are voting for Trump, because they are culturally anti democratic.
We going to have to come to terms with it at some point.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time.

I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us.


No one thinks that FFS. But you’re crazy and spiteful to behave as if this war isn’t also the most critical issue for some voters in swing states.


You sound insane and irrational, lashing out at the PP like this. That was uncalled for.

Gaza is indeed probably the most important issue for some people. Nothing the PP said implies otherwise. But Gaza is unlikely to be a big domestic vote-mover, based on literally years of voter history. Foreign affairs are almost never a major election driver, unless there are significant US troops committed.

Dobbs, on the other hand, has moved votes as recently as last year. The PP is correct that Dobbs may drive young voters to the polls. But Gaza is unlikely to drive a lot of voters to the polls unless there is a significant break with historic precedent.

Please be rational.
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