Gen Z not voting and handing a win to criminal Trump

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Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time.

I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us.


No one thinks that FFS. But you’re crazy and spiteful to behave as if this war isn’t also the most critical issue for some voters in swing states.


You sound insane and irrational, lashing out at the PP like this. That was uncalled for.

Gaza is indeed probably the most important issue for some people. Nothing the PP said implies otherwise. But Gaza is unlikely to be a big domestic vote-mover, based on literally years of voter history. Foreign affairs are almost never a major election driver, unless there are significant US troops committed.

Dobbs, on the other hand, has moved votes as recently as last year. The PP is correct that Dobbs may drive young voters to the polls. But Gaza is unlikely to drive a lot of voters to the polls unless there is a significant break with historic precedent.

Please be rational.


Please eat a pile dogshit, thanks.

The danger of the smug-assed Democratic consensus that you and PP typify is that you won’t acknowledge that Gaza may well depress turnout where it’s most needed - specifically right now in Michigan. Ignore it at your peril (you will).


Man, you are so unpleasant. I wonder why you can’t persuade anyone to your position? It’s truly a mystery. 🤔🤔

In any event, you are wrong about me. I think Democrats are sleepwalking their way to a Trump victory. But not because of Israel/Gaza, which is an electoral fringe issue (like nearly all foreign affairs issues historically) despite what obsessed lunatics like you think.


I’m a DP, and I think it’s a fringe issue with the capacity to tank the election. Unless you think Biden can win without Michigan, in which case I see why you’re not concerned.
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Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time.

I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us.


No one thinks that FFS. But you’re crazy and spiteful to behave as if this war isn’t also the most critical issue for some voters in swing states.


You sound insane and irrational, lashing out at the PP like this. That was uncalled for.

Gaza is indeed probably the most important issue for some people. Nothing the PP said implies otherwise. But Gaza is unlikely to be a big domestic vote-mover, based on literally years of voter history. Foreign affairs are almost never a major election driver, unless there are significant US troops committed.

Dobbs, on the other hand, has moved votes as recently as last year. The PP is correct that Dobbs may drive young voters to the polls. But Gaza is unlikely to drive a lot of voters to the polls unless there is a significant break with historic precedent.

Please be rational.


Please eat a pile dogshit, thanks.

The danger of the smug-assed Democratic consensus that you and PP typify is that you won’t acknowledge that Gaza may well depress turnout where it’s most needed - specifically right now in Michigan. Ignore it at your peril (you will).


Man, you are so unpleasant. I wonder why you can’t persuade anyone to your position? It’s truly a mystery. 🤔🤔

In any event, you are wrong about me. I think Democrats are sleepwalking their way to a Trump victory. But not because of Israel/Gaza, which is an electoral fringe issue (like nearly all foreign affairs issues historically) despite what obsessed lunatics like you think.


I’m a DP, and I think it’s a fringe issue with the capacity to tank the election. Unless you think Biden can win without Michigan, in which case I see why you’re not concerned.


Win or lose I don’t think that the administration can make foreign policy decisions based on what Arab Americans in Michigan think. Maybe they are the ones not seeing the big picture of what another Trump administration will mean for their constituents.
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Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time.

I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us.


No one thinks that FFS. But you’re crazy and spiteful to behave as if this war isn’t also the most critical issue for some voters in swing states.


You sound insane and irrational, lashing out at the PP like this. That was uncalled for.

Gaza is indeed probably the most important issue for some people. Nothing the PP said implies otherwise. But Gaza is unlikely to be a big domestic vote-mover, based on literally years of voter history. Foreign affairs are almost never a major election driver, unless there are significant US troops committed.

Dobbs, on the other hand, has moved votes as recently as last year. The PP is correct that Dobbs may drive young voters to the polls. But Gaza is unlikely to drive a lot of voters to the polls unless there is a significant break with historic precedent.

Please be rational.


Please eat a pile dogshit, thanks.

The danger of the smug-assed Democratic consensus that you and PP typify is that you won’t acknowledge that Gaza may well depress turnout where it’s most needed - specifically right now in Michigan. Ignore it at your peril (you will).


Man, you are so unpleasant. I wonder why you can’t persuade anyone to your position? It’s truly a mystery. 🤔🤔

In any event, you are wrong about me. I think Democrats are sleepwalking their way to a Trump victory. But not because of Israel/Gaza, which is an electoral fringe issue (like nearly all foreign affairs issues historically) despite what obsessed lunatics like you think.


I’m a DP, and I think it’s a fringe issue with the capacity to tank the election. Unless you think Biden can win without Michigan, in which case I see why you’re not concerned.


Win or lose I don’t think that the administration can make foreign policy decisions based on what Arab Americans in Michigan think. Maybe they are the ones not seeing the big picture of what another Trump administration will mean for their constituents.


For generations American foreign policy toward Ireland was heavily based on what Irish-Americans in New York and Boston thought. To the degree that it’s in State Department cables from the 50s.
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Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time.

I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us.


No one thinks that FFS. But you’re crazy and spiteful to behave as if this war isn’t also the most critical issue for some voters in swing states.


You sound insane and irrational, lashing out at the PP like this. That was uncalled for.

Gaza is indeed probably the most important issue for some people. Nothing the PP said implies otherwise. But Gaza is unlikely to be a big domestic vote-mover, based on literally years of voter history. Foreign affairs are almost never a major election driver, unless there are significant US troops committed.

Dobbs, on the other hand, has moved votes as recently as last year. The PP is correct that Dobbs may drive young voters to the polls. But Gaza is unlikely to drive a lot of voters to the polls unless there is a significant break with historic precedent.

Please be rational.


Please eat a pile dogshit, thanks.

The danger of the smug-assed Democratic consensus that you and PP typify is that you won’t acknowledge that Gaza may well depress turnout where it’s most needed - specifically right now in Michigan. Ignore it at your peril (you will).


Man, you are so unpleasant. I wonder why you can’t persuade anyone to your position? It’s truly a mystery. 🤔🤔

In any event, you are wrong about me. I think Democrats are sleepwalking their way to a Trump victory. But not because of Israel/Gaza, which is an electoral fringe issue (like nearly all foreign affairs issues historically) despite what obsessed lunatics like you think.


I’m a DP, and I think it’s a fringe issue with the capacity to tank the election. Unless you think Biden can win without Michigan, in which case I see why you’re not concerned.


Win or lose I don’t think that the administration can make foreign policy decisions based on what Arab Americans in Michigan think. Maybe they are the ones not seeing the big picture of what another Trump administration will mean for their constituents.


For generations American foreign policy toward Ireland was heavily based on what Irish-Americans in New York and Boston thought. To the degree that it’s in State Department cables from the 50s.

Dp-
Remind me, were the Irish shouting death to America?
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Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time.

I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us.


No one thinks that FFS. But you’re crazy and spiteful to behave as if this war isn’t also the most critical issue for some voters in swing states.


You sound insane and irrational, lashing out at the PP like this. That was uncalled for.

Gaza is indeed probably the most important issue for some people. Nothing the PP said implies otherwise. But Gaza is unlikely to be a big domestic vote-mover, based on literally years of voter history. Foreign affairs are almost never a major election driver, unless there are significant US troops committed.

Dobbs, on the other hand, has moved votes as recently as last year. The PP is correct that Dobbs may drive young voters to the polls. But Gaza is unlikely to drive a lot of voters to the polls unless there is a significant break with historic precedent.

Please be rational.


Please eat a pile dogshit, thanks.

The danger of the smug-assed Democratic consensus that you and PP typify is that you won’t acknowledge that Gaza may well depress turnout where it’s most needed - specifically right now in Michigan. Ignore it at your peril (you will).


Dp- pandering to a holes like you, means losing the middle ( and frankly the people I actually agree with and care about)
So F off and die?
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You’re the death of the party, you complete moron. Yes, it’s down to bwitches like you.


Go have a tantrum on tik tok, the grown ups who actually vote aren’t interested.


I’m middle-aged, but not in a swing state. The way you want to leave voters behind is insanity itself.


Well, I am in a swing state, and I’m telling you there are voters here too. And they want border security and don’t GAF about Gaza.
BUT they voted for abortion access.
But keep being wok for the gen z’s on tik tok.
It really pumps up the Trumpers here.
Thanks for that.



You’re chained to this website? Get a life lady.

GDIAF


I’m sorry that you’re so angry - maybe try to get woke or as you put it during your stroke, “wok,” to the interests of other voters in your party. I feel like your current head stuffed in your rectum position limits your worldview. Good luck with the blood pressure, lady!

Whatever. I’ll keep enjoying being a citizen representatives listen to. I’ll reminisce on my college years, of which I have no debt, and sleep like a baby in my beautiful home I’ve owned for years. You go on being irrelevant. You’re doing great!


Reread what you wrote and explain why you’re directing this away from the youth you’ve decided to demonize 9 months out from Election Day. That seems smart! It does to you, anyway.
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Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time.

I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us.


No one thinks that FFS. But you’re crazy and spiteful to behave as if this war isn’t also the most critical issue for some voters in swing states.


You sound insane and irrational, lashing out at the PP like this. That was uncalled for.

Gaza is indeed probably the most important issue for some people. Nothing the PP said implies otherwise. But Gaza is unlikely to be a big domestic vote-mover, based on literally years of voter history. Foreign affairs are almost never a major election driver, unless there are significant US troops committed.

Dobbs, on the other hand, has moved votes as recently as last year. The PP is correct that Dobbs may drive young voters to the polls. But Gaza is unlikely to drive a lot of voters to the polls unless there is a significant break with historic precedent.

Please be rational.


Please eat a pile dogshit, thanks.

The danger of the smug-assed Democratic consensus that you and PP typify is that you won’t acknowledge that Gaza may well depress turnout where it’s most needed - specifically right now in Michigan. Ignore it at your peril (you will).


Man, you are so unpleasant. I wonder why you can’t persuade anyone to your position? It’s truly a mystery. 🤔🤔

In any event, you are wrong about me. I think Democrats are sleepwalking their way to a Trump victory. But not because of Israel/Gaza, which is an electoral fringe issue (like nearly all foreign affairs issues historically) despite what obsessed lunatics like you think.


I’m a DP, and I think it’s a fringe issue with the capacity to tank the election. Unless you think Biden can win without Michigan, in which case I see why you’re not concerned.


Win or lose I don’t think that the administration can make foreign policy decisions based on what Arab Americans in Michigan think. Maybe they are the ones not seeing the big picture of what another Trump administration will mean for their constituents.


For generations American foreign policy toward Ireland was heavily based on what Irish-Americans in New York and Boston thought. To the degree that it’s in State Department cables from the 50s.

Dp-
Remind me, were the Irish shouting death to America?


Do you think Palestinians en masse were shouting this? Interesting point of view.
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Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time.

I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us.


No one thinks that FFS. But you’re crazy and spiteful to behave as if this war isn’t also the most critical issue for some voters in swing states.


You sound insane and irrational, lashing out at the PP like this. That was uncalled for.

Gaza is indeed probably the most important issue for some people. Nothing the PP said implies otherwise. But Gaza is unlikely to be a big domestic vote-mover, based on literally years of voter history. Foreign affairs are almost never a major election driver, unless there are significant US troops committed.

Dobbs, on the other hand, has moved votes as recently as last year. The PP is correct that Dobbs may drive young voters to the polls. But Gaza is unlikely to drive a lot of voters to the polls unless there is a significant break with historic precedent.

Please be rational.


Please eat a pile dogshit, thanks.

The danger of the smug-assed Democratic consensus that you and PP typify is that you won’t acknowledge that Gaza may well depress turnout where it’s most needed - specifically right now in Michigan. Ignore it at your peril (you will).


Man, you are so unpleasant. I wonder why you can’t persuade anyone to your position? It’s truly a mystery. 🤔🤔

In any event, you are wrong about me. I think Democrats are sleepwalking their way to a Trump victory. But not because of Israel/Gaza, which is an electoral fringe issue (like nearly all foreign affairs issues historically) despite what obsessed lunatics like you think.


I’m a DP, and I think it’s a fringe issue with the capacity to tank the election. Unless you think Biden can win without Michigan, in which case I see why you’re not concerned.


Win or lose I don’t think that the administration can make foreign policy decisions based on what Arab Americans in Michigan think. Maybe they are the ones not seeing the big picture of what another Trump administration will mean for their constituents.


For generations American foreign policy toward Ireland was heavily based on what Irish-Americans in New York and Boston thought. To the degree that it’s in State Department cables from the 50s.

Dp-
Remind me, were the Irish shouting death to America?


Do you think Palestinians en masse were shouting this? Interesting point of view.

Please post where the IRA threatened America .
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Gen Z are easily manipulated by TikTok, online propaganda and the chaos ideology of bad actor like Russia. We see it at work in this very forum where it fools absolutely no one and just looks pathetic. Biden is wise enough to know you cannot change foreign policy to please your ennemies and the people they brainwashed.
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Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time.

I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us.


No one thinks that FFS. But you’re crazy and spiteful to behave as if this war isn’t also the most critical issue for some voters in swing states.


You sound insane and irrational, lashing out at the PP like this. That was uncalled for.

Gaza is indeed probably the most important issue for some people. Nothing the PP said implies otherwise. But Gaza is unlikely to be a big domestic vote-mover, based on literally years of voter history. Foreign affairs are almost never a major election driver, unless there are significant US troops committed.

Dobbs, on the other hand, has moved votes as recently as last year. The PP is correct that Dobbs may drive young voters to the polls. But Gaza is unlikely to drive a lot of voters to the polls unless there is a significant break with historic precedent.

Please be rational.


Please eat a pile dogshit, thanks.

The danger of the smug-assed Democratic consensus that you and PP typify is that you won’t acknowledge that Gaza may well depress turnout where it’s most needed - specifically right now in Michigan. Ignore it at your peril (you will).


Man, you are so unpleasant. I wonder why you can’t persuade anyone to your position? It’s truly a mystery. 🤔🤔

In any event, you are wrong about me. I think Democrats are sleepwalking their way to a Trump victory. But not because of Israel/Gaza, which is an electoral fringe issue (like nearly all foreign affairs issues historically) despite what obsessed lunatics like you think.


Shhhh. Mrs. “GDIAF” has thrown every insult first, and literally wrote that she’s more important because she’s old and has a house, presuming that all those bad Democratic voters in financial precarity, and I am not one of them, deserve that station. She should get curb-stomped (death insults should go both ways, no?); the sun will only shine brighter. Election Day will still arrive.

I would be rather surprised if the two particular issues the Biden admin has not addressed particularly well, the war/protests re the war/the refusal to address funding of it, and the limbo solid blue areas like NYC/Chicago/Denver find themselves in with migrants, aren’t about to really hurt him. I think telling people they’re bad if they won’t vote for him despite war objections is a failure of a plan. You and others keep deliberately confusing the argument - it’s not that people will go to the polls to vote for anyone other than Biden. It’s that a few lurking issues could keep enough people home to toss things to Trump. There is no analogue in recent elections to look to for comfort.
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Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time.

I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us.


No one thinks that FFS. But you’re crazy and spiteful to behave as if this war isn’t also the most critical issue for some voters in swing states.


You sound insane and irrational, lashing out at the PP like this. That was uncalled for.

Gaza is indeed probably the most important issue for some people. Nothing the PP said implies otherwise. But Gaza is unlikely to be a big domestic vote-mover, based on literally years of voter history. Foreign affairs are almost never a major election driver, unless there are significant US troops committed.

Dobbs, on the other hand, has moved votes as recently as last year. The PP is correct that Dobbs may drive young voters to the polls. But Gaza is unlikely to drive a lot of voters to the polls unless there is a significant break with historic precedent.

Please be rational.


Please eat a pile dogshit, thanks.

The danger of the smug-assed Democratic consensus that you and PP typify is that you won’t acknowledge that Gaza may well depress turnout where it’s most needed - specifically right now in Michigan. Ignore it at your peril (you will).


Man, you are so unpleasant. I wonder why you can’t persuade anyone to your position? It’s truly a mystery. 🤔🤔

In any event, you are wrong about me. I think Democrats are sleepwalking their way to a Trump victory. But not because of Israel/Gaza, which is an electoral fringe issue (like nearly all foreign affairs issues historically) despite what obsessed lunatics like you think.


I’m a DP, and I think it’s a fringe issue with the capacity to tank the election. Unless you think Biden can win without Michigan, in which case I see why you’re not concerned.


Win or lose I don’t think that the administration can make foreign policy decisions based on what Arab Americans in Michigan think. Maybe they are the ones not seeing the big picture of what another Trump administration will mean for their constituents.


For generations American foreign policy toward Ireland was heavily based on what Irish-Americans in New York and Boston thought. To the degree that it’s in State Department cables from the 50s.

Dp-
Remind me, were the Irish shouting death to America?


Do you think Palestinians en masse were shouting this? Interesting point of view.

Please post where the IRA threatened America .


You have claimed Palestinians have threatened America. Link it!
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Biden has decided to give up on these foolish kids and court the older independents and moderates with a reversal on the border. Smart move since they are more likely to vote anyway.
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Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time.

I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us.


No one thinks that FFS. But you’re crazy and spiteful to behave as if this war isn’t also the most critical issue for some voters in swing states.


You sound insane and irrational, lashing out at the PP like this. That was uncalled for.

Gaza is indeed probably the most important issue for some people. Nothing the PP said implies otherwise. But Gaza is unlikely to be a big domestic vote-mover, based on literally years of voter history. Foreign affairs are almost never a major election driver, unless there are significant US troops committed.

Dobbs, on the other hand, has moved votes as recently as last year. The PP is correct that Dobbs may drive young voters to the polls. But Gaza is unlikely to drive a lot of voters to the polls unless there is a significant break with historic precedent.

Please be rational.


Please eat a pile dogshit, thanks.

The danger of the smug-assed Democratic consensus that you and PP typify is that you won’t acknowledge that Gaza may well depress turnout where it’s most needed - specifically right now in Michigan. Ignore it at your peril (you will).


Man, you are so unpleasant. I wonder why you can’t persuade anyone to your position? It’s truly a mystery. 🤔🤔

In any event, you are wrong about me. I think Democrats are sleepwalking their way to a Trump victory. But not because of Israel/Gaza, which is an electoral fringe issue (like nearly all foreign affairs issues historically) despite what obsessed lunatics like you think.


I’m a DP, and I think it’s a fringe issue with the capacity to tank the election. Unless you think Biden can win without Michigan, in which case I see why you’re not concerned.


Win or lose I don’t think that the administration can make foreign policy decisions based on what Arab Americans in Michigan think. Maybe they are the ones not seeing the big picture of what another Trump administration will mean for their constituents.


For generations American foreign policy toward Ireland was heavily based on what Irish-Americans in New York and Boston thought. To the degree that it’s in State Department cables from the 50s.

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Remind me, were the Irish shouting death to America?


They certainly were bombing things.

But no, they weren’t shouting death to America— and America wasn’t supporting the British committing atrocities.

But the question is whether expats should impact our foreign policy and the answer is that they absolutely have.
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Anonymous wrote:Biden has decided to give up on these foolish kids and court the older independents and moderates with a reversal on the border. Smart move since they are more likely to vote anyway.


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Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time.

I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us.


No one thinks that FFS. But you’re crazy and spiteful to behave as if this war isn’t also the most critical issue for some voters in swing states.


You sound insane and irrational, lashing out at the PP like this. That was uncalled for.

Gaza is indeed probably the most important issue for some people. Nothing the PP said implies otherwise. But Gaza is unlikely to be a big domestic vote-mover, based on literally years of voter history. Foreign affairs are almost never a major election driver, unless there are significant US troops committed.

Dobbs, on the other hand, has moved votes as recently as last year. The PP is correct that Dobbs may drive young voters to the polls. But Gaza is unlikely to drive a lot of voters to the polls unless there is a significant break with historic precedent.

Please be rational.


Please eat a pile dogshit, thanks.

The danger of the smug-assed Democratic consensus that you and PP typify is that you won’t acknowledge that Gaza may well depress turnout where it’s most needed - specifically right now in Michigan. Ignore it at your peril (you will).


Man, you are so unpleasant. I wonder why you can’t persuade anyone to your position? It’s truly a mystery. 🤔🤔

In any event, you are wrong about me. I think Democrats are sleepwalking their way to a Trump victory. But not because of Israel/Gaza, which is an electoral fringe issue (like nearly all foreign affairs issues historically) despite what obsessed lunatics like you think.


I’m a DP, and I think it’s a fringe issue with the capacity to tank the election. Unless you think Biden can win without Michigan, in which case I see why you’re not concerned.


Win or lose I don’t think that the administration can make foreign policy decisions based on what Arab Americans in Michigan think. Maybe they are the ones not seeing the big picture of what another Trump administration will mean for their constituents.


For generations American foreign policy toward Ireland was heavily based on what Irish-Americans in New York and Boston thought. To the degree that it’s in State Department cables from the 50s.

Dp-
Remind me, were the Irish shouting death to America?


They certainly were bombing things.

But no, they weren’t shouting death to America— and America wasn’t supporting the British committing atrocities.

But the question is whether expats should impact our foreign policy and the answer is that they absolutely have.


Yes, well, we stayed close partners with Britain but we did have a few Irish pop singers hit #1. I wouldn't say it was a huge impact like the demands from pp. Oh and the Irish didn't have extremist wings that attacked the US or US ideals.
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Anonymous wrote:The Jewish voter is going to play a huge role. I tend to vote Democrat, but cannot support Biden again. I will be taking a close look at the 3rd party candidate and might consider Kennedy. It would make me physically sick to vote for Trump, but I trust him to care about terrorism and Israel more than I trust Biden these days. That said, it will probably be quite a cold day in Hell because I never in my wildest dreams thought I would even consider supporting that deranged criminal, but I think the US has gone completely insane, so there is that.


If your #1 issue in the U.S. presidential election is Israel, you've gone a little bit insane, too.


Agreed. Also, that’s out of step with the reality of the political landscape. Israel/Gaza — like all foreign policy — is not going to sway the election much unless Biden commits US troops. DCUM is a lefty echo chamber on this matter (and I say that as someone who was warning people here in June 2016 that Trump was going to win).

However what Biden will struggle with in general is voter apathy and Israel/Gaza contributes to that, albeit minimally. Democrats always need high turnout and Biden isn’t going to drive that. Meanwhile Trump’s supporters will be fired up, like last time.

I would seriously not ignore Dobbs as a factor. So many people think women are just going to blithely accept our rights being ripped away from us.


No one thinks that FFS. But you’re crazy and spiteful to behave as if this war isn’t also the most critical issue for some voters in swing states.


You sound insane and irrational, lashing out at the PP like this. That was uncalled for.

Gaza is indeed probably the most important issue for some people. Nothing the PP said implies otherwise. But Gaza is unlikely to be a big domestic vote-mover, based on literally years of voter history. Foreign affairs are almost never a major election driver, unless there are significant US troops committed.

Dobbs, on the other hand, has moved votes as recently as last year. The PP is correct that Dobbs may drive young voters to the polls. But Gaza is unlikely to drive a lot of voters to the polls unless there is a significant break with historic precedent.

Please be rational.


Please eat a pile dogshit, thanks.

The danger of the smug-assed Democratic consensus that you and PP typify is that you won’t acknowledge that Gaza may well depress turnout where it’s most needed - specifically right now in Michigan. Ignore it at your peril (you will).


Man, you are so unpleasant. I wonder why you can’t persuade anyone to your position? It’s truly a mystery. 🤔🤔

In any event, you are wrong about me. I think Democrats are sleepwalking their way to a Trump victory. But not because of Israel/Gaza, which is an electoral fringe issue (like nearly all foreign affairs issues historically) despite what obsessed lunatics like you think.


Shhhh. Mrs. “GDIAF” has thrown every insult first, and literally wrote that she’s more important because she’s old and has a house, presuming that all those bad Democratic voters in financial precarity, and I am not one of them, deserve that station. She should get curb-stomped (death insults should go both ways, no?); the sun will only shine brighter. Election Day will still arrive.

I would be rather surprised if the two particular issues the Biden admin has not addressed particularly well, the war/protests re the war/the refusal to address funding of it, and the limbo solid blue areas like NYC/Chicago/Denver find themselves in with migrants, aren’t about to really hurt him. I think telling people they’re bad if they won’t vote for him despite war objections is a failure of a plan. You and others keep deliberately confusing the argument - it’s not that people will go to the polls to vote for anyone other than Biden. It’s that a few lurking issues could keep enough people home to toss things to Trump. There is no analogue in recent elections to look to for comfort.


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