My daughter is a member of a sorority. I assure you she is very normal and this was not how she picked her best friends ; nor did she let others pick them for her. She is also on a varsity sports team and a member of a club that focuses on what she hopes to pursue as her career. Her two closest friends are not in her sorority. They are not even on her team or in the professional club. Imagine that! But please, go ahead and stereotype if that makes you feel better. |
As I understand it, that's not wholly true. If you join a sorority, you can depledge, but you can't depledge and join a different sorority. So, a girl who gets a bid from a sorority she's not thrilled about--and for reasons that may NOT be just about popularity or status--has to decide whether to join or wait and see if she can get into a different sorority during open bidding or as a sophomore. I just watched a youtube video by a young woman who went through rush at a large state U. She got into a sorority that sounds as if it was "middle of the pack." Then, for unrelated reasons, she transferred to another large state U. She "affiliated." She found herself in one of the top 3 sororities...and she didn't fit in as well. But it was stay in that sorority or drop out. Joining another sorority wasn't an option. That seems ridiculous to me. |
This is true and one of the reasons girls might drop out rather than take a bid that they’re not excited about. This leaves the open bidding process open to them. But then they miss out on all the fun of bid day which is really alienating and depressing if it was something you wanted. The whole thing is ugly. |
No it’s not true, you are uninformed. If you drop before initiation, which is usually 6 weeks after bid day, you can depledge and rush again the next formal recruitment session. Only if you are initiated can you not drop and join a different one. And again, the pledging period is long so there is plenty of time to try it on for size and decide. |
And you go ahead and try to convince yourself that what your daughter has is the norm. I had an upfront seat, just on the outside for sorority rush my freshman year, during new student week, before classes even started. I had the luck of living in THE party dorm on campus in the center of the fraternity quad, everyone on my floor sans me and one other girl (we were both poorer and she was black at a school with less than 5 % blacks, at a time when there were not many POC in the traditional Panhellic sororities). So I watched as the girls on my floor had begun making friends the first 4-5 days. Then rush started and every single friendship went by the wayside because they all ended being picked by different sororities. As pledging happened and classes started, they didn't have time for much else besides sorority events. Even afterwards, they had to be at mandatory dinners multiple nights per week and several other activities each week, even after rush. So I watched 30+ girls stop hanging out with girls they were becoming friends with simply because the sorority activities didn't allow time for them to do much else. Many of the girls couldn't go to parties with their "friends" from the dorm because "those sororities don't mix". So after a few months, they were just acquaintances, not real friends. to me that is a sad state. It happens to many due to the peer pressure of being 18-20 and the desire to fit in with your sorority or groups. |
+1 It really is ugly. Reading this thread has made that even more clear to me. DP |
Most people don’t stay friends with their first people they meet on campus, those are friendships of convenience. |
But committing to a group for life that you’ve speed dated is the better choice? |
You are strangely invested in the choices of others. You obviously chose not to rush and your kids are free to chose the same. |
Where? Rush and joining a sorority at St Mary’s or George Mason is an entirely different ballgame than UGA or Alabama. Completely different animals. And if your daughter didn’t grow up in the south, you don’t understand the pressure those girls get. It’s a different world. |
+1000 I could not have state that any better!!!! |
Lordy you people are really whacky. You do not have to commit “for life” and even if you accept a bid, you can depledge. At least at my DDs school, there are 200 girls in each sorority, plenty of people to find your tribe within. Most of the friendships my kids had those first few weeks of school did cool again because it was more about proximity than anything else. My DD has friends who are in other houses, her house, and not Greek at all. It really does not matter. Now to the PPs point I’m not talking about Ole Miss or Alabama, and most aren’t. You can assume that every school with a Greek population is that extreme. |
| Can’t assume I mean |
You’ve made my point. Rush and sorority membership vary by school. Don’t stereotype. |
And don’t judge the girls who’ve had horrible experiences. Because you don’t know how different it was for them or why. |